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Re: Photo: C&O Hopper 127814 (1935)

Curt Fortenberry
 


The NMRA has some builder's photos, but searching is problematic as sometimes you have to wade through collections.  Not easy to narrow searches and get good results.


Curt Fortenberry


Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Charlie Duckworth
 

I had great response from several of the list members but am needing the top 6-8 scale locations for the following private car owners and railroads:
B&O, BM, C&O, CN, CP, Erie, FGEX, GATX, GTW, GN, L&N, MILW, NKP, NP, NYNH&H,N&W,  PM, PRR, Soo, Seaboard, SOUTHERN.
 
Thanks for your help.

You can email me off list 
omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com  

Charlie Duckworth
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Lipstick on a pig - detailing an Accurail box car

Clark Propst
 

No S**T!
Clark Propst


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:55 AM, radiodial868 wrote:
We already have the term "Extreme Modeling", so maybe we need another term, like "Rabbit-hole Modeling", as in "it should be easy to take this plastic kit/car and tweak it a bit to make a nice prototype model of it", and then down the rabbit-hole we go, emerging on the other side all sorts of rework accomplished after reviewing prototype photos and data and then starting actual work on the model. "Well, I've corrected this detail, might as well fix this one here why I'm at it. Oops, this doesn't look right per the prototype, I better change this too".  And down the rabbit-hole....

Once painted it will be a car few others will have. Prime example, nice.  
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

John Riddell
 

Chris,

The first 200 steel cars were repainted in the late 1940s from mineral red to medium grey with red lettering .

John Riddell


Re: In memory of Stan Rydardicz, a steam era Kit bashing

Jim Hayes
 



On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 5:15 AM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:



On Oct 30, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


Hello Everyone-

New resin ends for a long planned kitbash. Stan drew my appreciation in his way of finding projects which could be facilitated by making some resin parts. with the interest generated from the recent RPC #35 book I think it is time to talk about doing an early 1937 AAR box car in HO.

First, a little background. Intermountain made the tooling for the IMWX '37 AAR box car as part of the "divorce" from a founding member leaving the company. Though the car was nicely done, it did have an error which was passed down from Intermountain's earlier made 'O' scale '37 AAR box car. The floor stringers are not in the proper location. I believe that the tool maker must have thought that the cars should have 3 stringers and before the 3rd one could be cut, decided to leave the remaining 2 stringers alone. This was unfortunate, as those remaining 2 are not correctly placed. After the sell of the IMWX tooling to Red Caboose, Intermountain felt compelled to offer their own '37 box car. While made well in some aspects, such as the separate ends, problems emerged with a big mistake in the roof panels (too wide) and furthering the repeated errors of the floor stringers. In addition, the bolsters were poorly designed and have made all cars with this frame to ride too high.

Later, Branchline Models made their only "shake-the-box" kit, also a '37 AAR box car. It has been mostly off the radar due to its molded on parts. This Yardmaster brand car is, however, a nicely tooled car. It has a very nice under frame of the earlier version of single floor stringers. The car side's rivets are very well done as well as the Murphy raised panel roof.

Some one could commit to a large project by filing off the ladders, grabs and end brake gear, such as what Richard Hendrickson did years ago with the Athearn 40' box cars. Side ladders are not too difficult to remove, but the end ladders, grabs and brake removal is a lot of work.

A positive design of the Yardmaster kit is that the ends are separate parts which means if another 4/5 end can be found, most of the grunt work is done, leaving just the sides to have their ladders relatively easily removed.

Since this Yardmaster kit has the earlier single floor stringers, I feel that these Yardmaster kits would be a useful project for a quality early '37 AAR box car. The earliest '37 cars had square corner ends so I looked into seeing if an end I was gifted from a friend years ago would work. Wayne Madison made his 4/5 end from Terry Wegmanns' 4/4 sq corner ends with which he did a lot of work to remove ladder brackets and adding the extra bottom 5th rib.

So now a quality kit bash of the Yardmaster '37 AAR box car using resin ends will make a car which has correct ride height, good roof and a nice correct, for early cars, under frame. Stan would approve, I am certain!

I now have a mold for the Wayne Madison end. I am offering a pair of these resin ends which fits the Yardmaster '37 AAR box car well. Price is $7 pair and includes a sprue of Red Caboose bracket grabs. I accept checks and with a small fee PayPal is welcomed. Sadly, the post office rates for 1st class mailing is somewhat expensive. Buyer will need to pay $4.80 shipping. Contact me of-list for details at <midcentury@...>

Do well, everyone
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
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Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

bigfourroad
 

Thanks for the fascinating historical details Bob.  I have recently acquired the S scale kit and look forward to building it to correct details. Am I correct in interpreting your painting comments that the red scheme gave way to the silver with red lettering sometime in the late 40's early 50's?
Chris Rooney


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Bob Chaparro
 

Mark Rickert reminded me there was a multi-part series in RMC several years ago on these cars. Looking back through my notes I found these plus two other articles.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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Model Railroader

November 1964

CN Overhead-Bunker Reefer

by Craig, Allen E.  Geissel, J. Harold

Page 32

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Railroad Model Craftsman

November 1983

Protofile 28: CN Eight-Hatch Reefers

by Swain, Stafford

CNR  Protofile  Prototype Reefer

Page 71

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December 1995

Canada's Eight-Hatch Iced Refrigerator Cars, Part 1

by Goslett, Ken  Swain, Stafford

Page 70

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January 1996

Canada's Eight-Hatch Iced Refrigerator Cars, Part 2

by Goslett, Ken  Swain, Stafford

Page 63

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February 1996

Canada's Eight-Hatch Iced Refrigerator Cars, Part 3

by Swain, Stafford

Page 80


Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Chuck Cover
 

Thanks Ray.

 

DL&W is another 36’ boxcar still around in the mid-50s and might fit my layout operations better than the D&H since DL&W had an interchange with the PRR in Northumberland, PA.  I look forward to your blog.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM

 

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Re: Need broadside photo of OSL #3029-54 short caboose #3029-54

wahsatch
 

Heith,
 
Thanks for the CA photo. I got a copy of the UP/OSL/OW CA caboose drawing on Don Strack's website - took the pdf file to FedEx/Kinkos store & printed out on 36" wide paper - cost about $10. It's the other caboose I need to build.
 
Thanks again!
 
-=- Bob Colquitt
 
All Dressed Up & No Place to Go - Oscar Levant 1936
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Photo: Newfoundland Railway Refrigerator Car 306 (Undated)

Richard Townsend
 

42-inch gauge 


On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:

 Narrow gauge I believe.  Hard to tell from the photo. 

Rob

On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Newfoundland Railway Refrigerator Car 306 (Undated)
A photo from the National Archives of Canada:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Newfoundland Railway Refrigerator Car 306 (Undated)

Robert kirkham
 

Narrow gauge I believe.  Hard to tell from the photo. 

Rob

On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Newfoundland Railway Refrigerator Car 306 (Undated)
A photo from the National Archives of Canada:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Bob Chaparro
 

Gary Townshend commented:

"The cars were originally developed by 1937, the year the test run was made, bringing two car loads of frozen fish back from Prince Rupert BC to Montreal PQ*. As Supervisor of Perishable Traffic for the CNR System, my grandfather had various shops experiment with mechanical refrigeration in the 1950's. I have had the pleasure of discussing some of those experiments with the employees. They agreed that ice refrigeration across the CNR was more reliable in that time. So my grandfather ordered 200 new overhead ice bunker reefers in 1958, a year before he retired.

*Those first two cars had ten hatches!"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: GTW Gondola 145000 (1937)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: GTW Gondola 145000 (1937)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3353756

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

This car appears to be equipped to handle automobile frames.

Car built in 1935.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: CN Reefer 209232 (1939)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CN Reefer 209232 (1939)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3299123

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built 1937.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: C&O Hopper 127814 (1935)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: C&O Hopper 127814 (1935)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=4118768

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1935.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Newfoundland Railway Refrigerator Car 306 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Newfoundland Railway Refrigerator Car 306 (Undated)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3607679

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Lipstick on a pig - detailing an Accurail box car

radiodial868
 

We already have the term "Extreme Modeling", so maybe we need another term, like "Rabbit-hole Modeling", as in "it should be easy to take this plastic kit/car and tweak it a bit to make a nice prototype model of it", and then down the rabbit-hole we go, emerging on the other side all sorts of rework accomplished after reviewing prototype photos and data and then starting actual work on the model. "Well, I've corrected this detail, might as well fix this one here why I'm at it. Oops, this doesn't look right per the prototype, I better change this too".  And down the rabbit-hole....

Once painted it will be a car few others will have. Prime example, nice.  
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Larry and List Mermbers,
 
I had this same problem, here is what I found, my desktop computer has an older copy of the Firefox browser, and I saw everything EXCEPT the image!
 
Using my laptop (which has a more recent version of Firefox) works just fine, I see everything including the image.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Grand Truck Gondola 79799 (1927)

Dear Mr Chaparro
I do not see how you get the Archives Canada pictures. I get a screen showing the photo's catalog data
but not the actual picture. This has been true of all the ones I have tried to open. Also,is GT 79799 a steel general service gon?
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Bob,

And the CN cars did get down into the US. In James H. Harrison's SACRAMENTO NORTHERN GALLERY there is a photo of one taken about 1956 on the SN (pulled by a GE steeple cab!) at Lake Temescal near Oakland, California. The car in the photo wears the later gray paint scheme. Since the train is eastbound, I presume the car is empty and was going home via the WP and GN. It most certainly was unloaded on the partially-WP owned Oakland Terminal, since nearly all the SN's eastbound traffic out of Oakland came off the OT (the SN only served team tracks west of Laffayette and had no major customers of their own). Why it would have appeared in the Bay Area is a head scratcher. My best guess is it arrived with some specialty Canadian meat or fish product.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:08 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: CN Eight-Hatch Reefer 209500 (1941)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3514331

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Car built in 1939.

I understand PFE and Fruit Growers also had a few refrigerator cars of the eight hatch/overhead bunker design.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: In memory of Stan Rydarowicz

Clark Propst
 

I always kidded Stan that he should change his name to Ralph Rydarowicz  ;  ))

Clark Propst

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