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Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Nelson Moyer
 

How we hate it when we think we’re through with a model, then take pictures of it only to reveal something undesirable that we overlooked. But without the photos, we wouldn’t know where we messed up. Been there and done that. Despite the minor issues, it’s a very nice car.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert kirkham
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

 

Thought I'd share a model I completed this morning.  Or thought I had completed - I see a couple of touch ups needed.  

This is an Accurail 4300 kit, cut down to better represent the 8'6" IH.  Uses decals from Jerry Hansmith.

Rob

 


Re: Car ID just for fun

Clark Propst
 

I've convinced myself the three bay hopper is the MDC car. Now anyone know what RRs had cars like that?
Thanks you all,
Clark Propst


Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Clark Propst
 

Very, very nice. I just brought home one of those to do about the same. Haven’t decided on the CB&Q or MKT.

Thanks for sharing your fine model.

Clark Propst

 

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Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

O Fenton Wells
 

What I found amazing is when you put these cars on the track the differences are appealing.  You don't want them all the same, at least I don't think one does.


On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Thanks Fenton.   I used some Derwent watercolour pencils (mostly Venetian Red #63 and Terracotta #64) to add back some faded red colour when the paint & other effects had become too much.  Under magnification, I’m not thrilled with the job I did blending it, but at 18” I think it will look good on the rails.

Rob

On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:56 AM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Well done Rob, great "dirt"
Fenton

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 1:51 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Thought I'd share a model I completed this morning.  Or thought I had completed - I see a couple of touch ups needed.  

This is an Accurail 4300 kit, cut down to better represent the 8'6" IH.  Uses decals from Jerry Hansmith.

Rob




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Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks Fenton.   I used some Derwent watercolour pencils (mostly Venetian Red #63 and Terracotta #64) to add back some faded red colour when the paint & other effects had become too much.  Under magnification, I’m not thrilled with the job I did blending it, but at 18” I think it will look good on the rails.

Rob

On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:56 AM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Well done Rob, great "dirt"
Fenton

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 1:51 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Thought I'd share a model I completed this morning.  Or thought I had completed - I see a couple of touch ups needed.  

This is an Accurail 4300 kit, cut down to better represent the 8'6" IH.  Uses decals from Jerry Hansmith.

Rob




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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks Tony.  You know - as soon as I posted the photos, I saw the “3” decal on the car end had floated up after I thought I had it in place.  Missed that before the clear coat and weathering - so quickly fixing it this morning.  

Rob  

On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Wow! I love the grimy look, Rob. Excellent model.

Tony Thompson





Drop end gondola ratchet hand brakes

Seth Lakin
 

Group, in modeling a gon with drop ends. The builders component sheet says that some cars had Klasing 5L-700 and the remaining cars had Universal 1995 hand brakes. Photos of of both of them show a ratchet type handbrake  

is there a separate detail part or a kit that has one of these modeled that the hand brake be harvested to model either the Klasing 5L-700 brake or Universal 1995 brake?

Thanks in advanced 
Seth Lakin
Michigan City IN


Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

O Fenton Wells
 

Well done Rob, great "dirt"
Fenton

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 1:51 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Thought I'd share a model I completed this morning.  Or thought I had completed - I see a couple of touch ups needed.  

This is an Accurail 4300 kit, cut down to better represent the 8'6" IH.  Uses decals from Jerry Hansmith.

Rob



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Tony Thompson
 

Wow! I love the grimy look, Rob. Excellent model.

Tony Thompson




FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Robert kirkham
 

Thought I'd share a model I completed this morning.  Or thought I had completed - I see a couple of touch ups needed.  

This is an Accurail 4300 kit, cut down to better represent the 8'6" IH.  Uses decals from Jerry Hansmith.

Rob


Re: Pool Service into California

O Fenton Wells
 

George Eichelberger at SRHA did a clinic on SR pool cars a few years ago and he may have the SR cars involved.
Fenton

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:40 PM Fred Swanson via groups.io <fredswanson=rocketmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Many cars serving the auto industry were in pool service.  Are there listings or other information on what lines to and from where, when?
Fred Swanson



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Re: Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?

Tony Thompson
 

Dave Evans asked:
Where can one find his images? Lighting in Colorado is normally quite different from Pennsylvania, and during WWII, Colorado was much more pristine, but they could provide a useful data point.

     I don't know. Richard Hendrickson had obtained copies of slides from a narrow gauge source, which I've seen (those slides went to John Signor). I would guess checking with knowledgeable NG folks would be the way to start.

Tony Thompson




Re: Pool Service into California

Tony Thompson
 

Fred Swanson wrote:

Many cars serving the auto industry were in pool service.  Are there listings or other information on what lines to and from where, when?

  I don't know of such information all in one place. I was able to access SP car assignments by car number to a whole range of auto parts pools, and those data are in my Volumes 3 and 4 of the series, _Southern Pacific Freight Cars_ mostly in the form of tables of data. But I did not know who else was in the various pools.

Tony Thompson




Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Charlie,

One of the C&O's most common marks was RA for Raceland, Kentucky. That was their biggest car shop.

Some Southern locations I spotted in photos are CR, K, MDN, HE, ALX (likely Alexandria, VA), AUG (Augusta, GA?), BN, JAX (surely Jacksonville, Fl), INM, ATL (Atlanta), TUSCA (Tuscaloosa?), LP, CIN. HE seems to most common, followed by JAX. I would also go for AUG and ATL, as they are recognizable and scream "South!". 

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:14 AM Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

Thanks for all the responses on the common scales. All that’s remaining is the C&O, GN, Milwaukee, Seaboard Air Line and Southern.  Just send these to omahaduck (at) gmail (dot) com  

I went though my photos this week and will scan the images I have for Humbert to match the lettering.  Any gaps I’ll ask for help.  
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?

Andy Carlson
 

About 10 years ago, Richard Hendrickson gave a Naperville clinic on steam era weathering and how it differed markably from the post-steam era. To illustrate the idea, Richard's screen had a lot of Maxwell's pre-war Kodachrome shots of freight trains traversing through Colorado canyons.  With D&RGW articulated power, many shots with mid-train and rear helpers. Dozens of freight car illustrating the extreme weathering captured brilliantly for such a cool time without of lot of color photos.

As the subject was about how severe much of the freight cars' finishes were, Richard took advantage of some screens to make a point about some non-weathered issues of railroads.

My favorite was when he pointed out a Grand Trunk Western box car, which may have been a single sheathed auto car among the consist of a beautiful freight train. The professor instincts came out as he asked "What is a GTW box car doing here in Tennesee Pass?" Some wag in the audience yelled out "about 10 miles per hour".

Richard took audience participation as well as anyone, as we have seen over the years at the RPMs. Adding to his rail history, his sense of humor was a joy to be around and he was kind to the heckler. He left us way too early, and I miss him a lot.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 8:51:43 AM PST, devansprr <devans1@...> wrote:


On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 05:22 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
No one has mentioned the Robert Maxwell Colorado color from the 1940s, both standard and narrow gauge. Many of the images have beautiful color.


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Re: ISTX 539 - piping rig

Andy Laurent
 

Attached is a second David Marcham photo of that train, posted after I sent the photo to you...Paul notes it as a Bogle weed sprayer, and there are a couple of Type 7 / TM-8 tank cars in the consist behind the ISTX car.

Cheers,
Andy L.
Wisconsin


ISTX 539 - piping rig

Andy Laurent
 

Gents,
Attached is a photo that Paul McCray posted in a Facebook group that I follow.  It shows an 8,000 gallon tank car owned by the Interstate Tank Car Corporation on the Washington & Old Dominion RR in Falls Church, VA sometime after 1956 (when the loco was delivered).  Note the interesting 3-line piping rig that runs along the walkway and up to the dome on either side of the walkway.  It appears to connect to the next car in line via a hose, and there is a fitting at the other end of the car for the same type of connection.  Is this a weed-spray train?  The 1955 ORER shows this as a TM, no special equipment other than heater coils is noted.

Andy L. 
Wisconsin


Photo: Photo: Missouri Pacific Gondola 23724

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Photo: Missouri Pacific Gondola 23724

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3933067

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: New York Central & Hudson River Tank Car W-6050 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: New York Central & Hudson River Tank Car W-6050 (Undated)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=4424970

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Possibly a different car number on the bolster.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?

Brian Carlson
 

When we’re done with color maybe we can bring up IC banana reefers or the J&L tank cars again. (Grin) tongue firmly planted in cheek. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Nov 13, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Elden sez:

"Kodachrome…..they are the only slides I took that looked like the real thing."

Actually, Elden, they are the only slides that look like your MEMORY of the real thing 😉. Memory is a notoriously tricky thing and tends to "warm" colors, just like Kodachrome. Kodak, or, as we from Rochester like to say, "The Great Yellow Mother to Us All" knew what they were doing. People are pleased when their photos look even better than their memories!

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

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