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Re: Decaling and future

Brian Carlson
 

I took a look at the car while heading to bed tonight and I believe rich is correct. It had been drying for about two hours by then, and I’m very happy to report that everything looked like it should. 

This car has been a long time Building so I am very happy it is OK. It’s been my problem child project.

Brian J. Carlson 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:25 AM, Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:


Rich,

Please let us know if time took care of the problem.

Thanks,  Allen Cain


Re: Decaling and future

Allen Cain
 

Rich,

Please let us know if time took care of the problem.

Thanks,  Allen Cain


Re: Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph

Thomas Evans
 

Interesting mix of narrow & standard gauge cars.
I particularly like the boxcar with its door hanging by one corner!

Tom E.


Re: Decaling and future

Brian Carlson
 

The photo was 10-15 minutes after the last application.  I’m letting it sit till tomorrow now.

Brian J. Carlson 

On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:



Brian,

 

How long has it been since you added the decal setting fluid?  I had a similar problem with one of the cars I was finishing last week.  By the next day the discoloration had gone away.  It happened again when I added more decal setting fluid.  Something in the Microscale decal setting fluid was softening the Future, but given enough time, the Future dried clear again.  Hopefully that is what is happening in your case.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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From: Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decaling and future

 

Seem to be having a strange reaction between my decals,  decal setting solution, and the future on the side of the tichy rebuilt boxcar. I painted it a few weeks ago, and then clearcoated it with future a week ago, and I’m now decaling using speedwitch decals. I’m getting areas of discoloration that don’t look like normal air trapped under a decal. It’s like a reaction between the setting solution and future. You can even see a little discoloration between the Herald and data that is not decaled. It’s not happening with every decals. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this before. Has anyone ever experienced this?

Paint was Vallejo, Future is probably 5-10 years old.

My thought is to shoot the other side with gloss again before decaling.

Heavy weathering is in the future (no pun intended) I fear.



Brian J. Carlson




 


Re: Decaling and future

Richard Remiarz
 

Brian,

 

How long has it been since you added the decal setting fluid?  I had a similar problem with one of the cars I was finishing last week.  By the next day the discoloration had gone away.  It happened again when I added more decal setting fluid.  Something in the Microscale decal setting fluid was softening the Future, but given enough time, the Future dried clear again.  Hopefully that is what is happening in your case.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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From: Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decaling and future

 

Seem to be having a strange reaction between my decals,  decal setting solution, and the future on the side of the tichy rebuilt boxcar. I painted it a few weeks ago, and then clearcoated it with future a week ago, and I’m now decaling using speedwitch decals. I’m getting areas of discoloration that don’t look like normal air trapped under a decal. It’s like a reaction between the setting solution and future. You can even see a little discoloration between the Herald and data that is not decaled. It’s not happening with every decals. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this before. Has anyone ever experienced this?

Paint was Vallejo, Future is probably 5-10 years old.

My thought is to shoot the other side with gloss again before decaling.

Heavy weathering is in the future (no pun intended) I fear.



Brian J. Carlson




 


Re: BAR Caboose (was: Banned from Interchange)

Bruce Smith
 

Yes

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of John Mateyko <rattler21@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] BAR Caboose (was: Banned from Interchange)
 

is this converted from a troop sleeper?  john Mateyko


Re: BAR Caboose (was: Banned from Interchange)

John Mateyko
 


is this converted from a troop sleeper?  john Mateyko


Re: Car ID just for fun

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

David Thompson wrote:

"
The tank looks like a pre-1917 GATC car (though that doesn't tell you whose car it is), and I'll suggest that the car
behind it is a C&O steel-sheathed rebuild of their 1920s auto boxes (the narrow door is on the right)".

    Thanks David. I'm not familiar enough with the C&O car roster to question you on that but certainly ruled out Boston
& Albany as soon as noting that the 1/2 door was on the right rather than the left of the full door. The lettering on the
right side also troubles me as the first line looks like it might be two words and rather than an ampersand in the middle
it looks instead like the word "and" written out on a downward slope to the right. Doesw anyone else see this?

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

All I can tell you,Rob, is that all of those slides were taken of the New Haven main line west of New Haven. Wish 
they were sharp enough to be bown up well.

My best, Don Valentine

PS: How's your course on Red China coming along?


Decaling and future

Brian Carlson
 

Seem to be having a strange reaction between my decals, decal setting solution, and the future on the side of the tichy rebuilt boxcar. I painted it a few weeks ago, and then clearcoated it with future a week ago, and I’m now decaling using speedwitch decals. I’m getting areas of discoloration that don’t look like normal air trapped under a decal. It’s like a reaction between the setting solution and future. You can even see a little discoloration between the Herald and data that is not decaled. It’s not happening with every decals. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this before. Has anyone ever experienced this?

Paint was Vallejo, Future is probably 5-10 years old.

My thought is to shoot the other side with gloss again before decaling.

Heavy weathering is in the future (no pun intended) I fear.



Brian J. Carlson


Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph

Jim Gates
 

A photo with a lot of early freight cars:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll21/id/9552

Enlarges enough to read many of the numbers.

Jim Gates


Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Craig Wilson
 

Looking forward to seeing this one.  Did you get the Shapeways parts for the complete ends yet?  If so, what is your opinion of them?
Craig Wilson


Re: Car ID just for fun

Clark Propst
 

Always good to hear from you Ben, you give it straight ;  ))

But, I don’t want to be one of those that uses “There’s only an ‘inferior’ model available so therefore I can’t model whatever?”. There’s also the late Stan Rydarowicz’s rule of diminishing returns. Compromise is the order here. I will be using the MDC car, just need to know which roads had cars ‘close’.

As for the C&O rebuilt box car, is there a model available of that?

Clark Propst

 

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Re: National Car Company

Bill Parks
 

Fenton - 

You are correct, National Car was a subsidiary of FGE to service meat packers, and the vast majority of their cars were leased to different packers.  It is my understanding that tracking car numbers is very difficult as NX constantly renumbered (and sometimes re-lettered) cars as they were moved from one lease to the next.  About the only way to be sure is to have photos of a car with the date it was taken.

--
Bill Parks
Cumming, GA
Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida


Re: FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash

Lester Breuer
 

Robert a Fine build with excellent weathering. 
Lester Breuer


Offered again: HO WP 1916 built 40' SS box car resin parts

Andy Carlson
 

Back in October I offered HO castings for a WP 40' single sheathed box car. Originally numbered in the 15001-16000 series, a class of 1000 cars which lasted in interchange until the early 1950s.

These castings had some issues which I considered blems--a nice car can be built with attention paid to the small issues.

I now have one set of parts which can be offered for the price of $45 and I pay shipping to the US.

See my original post copied below for more details.

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Hello-

I have been preparing a return to offering a select few resin HO box cars. The tooling for this HO box car was made over 20 years ago.

I have enough parts for two of these WP box cars.

The buyer will get the following parts for two cars:

2 SS sides
1 plain end
1 end with lumber door
1 roof (Newly re-tooled to correct drawing errors)
Several roof support cross ties
1 under frame
1 set of under frame cross members and cross ties

These sides are from reworked pattern mold box and are straight but with some small flaws, such as an air bubble.

Because of the blems I am reducing the price for this one car.
Purchase the above parts with shipping for $45.00

No paint, decals, trucks brake equipment are included.
I have just the single casting set to be offered.

I accept checks or money orders. With a small fee I accept PayPal.

Contact me at <midcentury@...> of list please for more details.

(I can offer a full set of 1st run parts for $55.)

Thanks,
-Andy





Re: Decals for scale locations and light weights

Doug Polinder
 

Charlie, Portland Car & Foundry has decals for GN scales and repack data:

https://www.myhotrains.com/PDF/140923/02-DECALS1-Standard.pdf?x24143



Doug Polinder
Lowell MI


Re: National Car Company

O Fenton Wells
 

In the steam and transition era I believe the NX cars were owned by the FGEX consortium and was designed to be the meat hauler of the group.  In 1951 a large percentage of their cars were classed as RBM or RSM with meat rails.
Fenton

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:12 PM Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@...> wrote:

I am trying to identify all the cars in the National Car Company which were owned by the CB&Q / BRE. So far I have MNX 1700-2364, starting in 1949, with 2444-2464 being changed to LLNX in 1967. LLNX was allocated to WFE at that time so I don’t know if they were sold, leased or what.

So, did the BRE own any other National cars?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ




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National Car Company

Rupert Gamlen
 

I am trying to identify all the cars in the National Car Company which were owned by the CB&Q / BRE. So far I have MNX 1700-2364, starting in 1949, with 2444-2464 being changed to LLNX in 1967. LLNX was allocated to WFE at that time so I don’t know if they were sold, leased or what.

So, did the BRE own any other National cars?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ



Re: Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?

devansprr
 

Thanks Tony,
Dave Evans

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