Re: Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph
I messed with it a bit & came up with this.
Tom
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Re: Decaling and future
radiodial868
That's good news. I use MicroSet and Badger Softening solution all the time over 10 year old future and it always dries back up clear again. Some stubborn decals have required many applications of the pin prick and softening solution trick to get it right.
------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA
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Re: partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car
Probably series 90000 to 99999 - yes, UTLX really did have THOUSANDS of these cars! But of course they were on hundreds of different leases.
On 11/15/2020 10:14 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
I like this color image showing a partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank
car. Too bad we cannot see the road number...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: National Car Company
On 11/14/2020 4:18 PM, O Fenton Wells wrote:
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Decaling and future
Eric Hansmann
I’ve also noticed a slight milky appearance after applying Solvaset to decals but it clears up overnight.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 11:40 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Decaling and future
I took a look at the car while heading to bed tonight and I believe rich is correct. It had been drying for about two hours by then, and I’m very happy to report that everything looked like it should.
This car has been a long time Building so I am very happy it is OK. It’s been my problem child project. Brian J. Carlson
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Weathered NKP gondolas
Eric Hansmann
A couple HO scale gondolas have been moving through construction stages. Both went through the weathering factory in the last week. The models follow Nickel Plate Road wood gondolas built in the early Teens and were the backbone of the NKP gondola fleet into the 1930s. They have steel centersills and eight truss rods. The one-piece bodies were designed and cast by Dave Campbell. He also did the decal art. Grabs, sill steps, brake hardware, need beams, queen posts, truss rods, turnbuckles, weight, floor, trucks, and couplers were separate items.
I model 1926 and wanted these to look weary. Based upon the few prototype images, these gondolas hauled for many different loads and were rarely in pristine condition. The cars were primed then painted with Vallejo Dark Rubber from the Panzer Aces line. The interiors were brush painted with Vallejo burnt umber. My finishing process follows these steps.
Prime > paint > gloss (Future) > decal > gloss > flat (tinted with car color) > weathering
I usually apply a wash to start the weathering layers, but decided to use Pan Pastels and color pencils. A couple shades of cool grey pencils were used to lighten individual interior boards. A cool grey 10% pencil was used to simulate streaking under the larger lettering.
Pan Pastel raw umber (780.5) Pan Pastel was daubed onto the panel surfaces then rubbed into place. Downward motions pulled excess material toward the sill.
Pan Pastel neutral grey extra dark (820.1) is my go-to soot color. It was streaked into exterior surfaces with a micro brush. A triangular sponge was used to apply it to interior surfaces and push the material into corners.
I tried something different on NKP 4385. I used a micro brush to apply neutral grey (820.5) along a couple exterior boards to convey paint failure. I also accentuated the lettering fade with the same material. I traced over the reporting marks with the cool grey 10% pencil.
Lastly, I used the cool grey 10% pencil to add a few chalk marks and to highlight corners and details.
I had covered the repack and weigh stencils with Tamiya tape before the weathering process on NKP 7985. When I removed the tape, a couple of decals came with it. I have extras on the decal sheet that need to be installed. Both cars also need air hoses and I’m finishing up the deck for NKP 4385. Both cars will have route cards and a few route card remnants applied.
I rarely see fresh looking freight cars in 1920s photos. There is a faded appearance to almost all cars. Lettering takes a hit on many cars as it is fading away or covered by dirt and soot. I have several images where the only legible lettering is the weigh data. Cars built within a couple years of my 1926 focus will receive lighter weathering but everything will have a weathered appearance.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?
Andy Carlson
On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 10:28:00 PM PST, np328 <jcdworkingonthenp@...> wrote:
Andy, ***************** Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN I have increasingly found that as I age, my interpretation of time seems to lag a lot. When we are 20 years old, 5 years ago is a long time. Now approaching 70 I am constantly reminded that I under estimate time spans. Where I think of 10 years as truly long ago, I am on mid-century time in my thinking. It seems that I need to adapt a "fudge factor" and automatically add extra years for any of my time estimates. I can't believe I am the only one inflicted this way! Richard's SRO success was well deserved, his presentations were indeed "must see". You all do well, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Re: Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?
np328
Andy,
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Re: Decaling and future
I took a look at the car while heading to bed tonight and I believe rich is correct. It had been drying for about two hours by then, and I’m very happy to report that everything looked like it should.
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This car has been a long time Building so I am very happy it is OK. It’s been my problem child project. Brian J. Carlson
On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:25 AM, Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
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Re: Decaling and future
Allen Cain
Rich, Please let us know if time took care of the problem. Thanks, Allen Cain
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Re: Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph
Interesting mix of narrow & standard gauge cars.
I particularly like the boxcar with its door hanging by one corner! Tom E.
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Re: Decaling and future
The photo was 10-15 minutes after the last application. I’m letting it sit till tomorrow now.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Re: Decaling and future
Richard Remiarz
Brian,
How long has it been since you added the decal setting fluid? I had a similar problem with one of the cars I was finishing last week. By the next day the discoloration had gone away. It happened again when I added more decal setting fluid. Something in the Microscale decal setting fluid was softening the Future, but given enough time, the Future dried clear again. Hopefully that is what is happening in your case.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz Vadnais Heights, MN
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From: Brian Carlson via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:52 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Decaling and future
Seem to be having a strange reaction between my decals, decal setting solution, and the future on the side of the tichy rebuilt boxcar. I painted it a few weeks ago, and then clearcoated it with future a week
ago, and I’m now decaling using speedwitch decals. I’m getting areas of discoloration that don’t look like normal air trapped under a decal. It’s like a reaction between the setting solution and future. You can even see a little discoloration between the Herald
and data that is not decaled. It’s not happening with every decals. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this before. Has anyone ever experienced this?
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Re: BAR Caboose (was: Banned from Interchange)
Yes
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of John Mateyko <rattler21@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:18 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] BAR Caboose (was: Banned from Interchange) is this converted from a troop sleeper? john Mateyko
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Re: BAR Caboose (was: Banned from Interchange)
is this converted from a troop sleeper? john Mateyko
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Re: Car ID just for fun
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
David Thompson wrote: " The tank looks like a pre-1917 GATC car (though that doesn't tell you whose car it is), and I'll suggest that the car behind it is a C&O steel-sheathed rebuild of their 1920s auto boxes (the narrow door is on the right)". Thanks David. I'm not familiar enough with the C&O car roster to question you on that but certainly ruled out Boston & Albany as soon as noting that the 1/2 door was on the right rather than the left of the full door. The lettering on the right side also troubles me as the first line looks like it might be two words and rather than an ampersand in the middle it looks instead like the word "and" written out on a downward slope to the right. Doesw anyone else see this? Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
All I can tell you,Rob, is that all of those slides were taken of the New Haven main line west of New Haven. Wish they were sharp enough to be bown up well. My best, Don Valentine PS: How's your course on Red China coming along?
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Decaling and future
Seem to be having a strange reaction between my decals, decal setting solution, and the future on the side of the tichy rebuilt boxcar. I painted it a few weeks ago, and then clearcoated it with future a week ago, and I’m now decaling using speedwitch decals. I’m getting areas of discoloration that don’t look like normal air trapped under a decal. It’s like a reaction between the setting solution and future. You can even see a little discoloration between the Herald and data that is not decaled. It’s not happening with every decals. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this before. Has anyone ever experienced this?
Paint was Vallejo, Future is probably 5-10 years old. My thought is to shoot the other side with gloss again before decaling. Heavy weathering is in the future (no pun intended) I fear. Brian J. Carlson
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Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph
Jim Gates
A photo with a lot of early freight cars:
https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll21/id/9552 Enlarges enough to read many of the numbers. Jim Gates
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