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Re: Photos: Bangor & Aroostook Flat Car 71710 With Army Tanks (Undated)

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Am I all wet or is there a cable running beneath the deck of this BAR flat from mounts just beyond the outer side 
of the last stake pocket on each side, perhaps to indicate how depressed the deck is from the weight of the tank?
I noticed this in the second photo but went back and noted that it appears in the first photo as well but is not as
obvious until it is enlarged. Can't imagine what this is for other than to keep an eye on how much the deck is
depressed.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Rob Manley

Steve and Barb Hile
 

So sorry to hear of another passing.  Rob was a great modeler and eloquent spokesman for Pan Pastel weathering.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:20 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Rob Manley

 

I learned Rob Manley, master of Pan Pastel’s, died on Monday. I understand he had a heart attack. Here is his obituary.

https://www.schroederlauer.com/obituary/robert-rob-manley?fbclid=IwAR24csyKzx-SVUKiFxeAbkjBwp02aBPN037gngBCKfyFavb1vExfY5w0up4

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bruce and List Members,
 
Thanks Bruce for the illuminating words on the topic.
 
One other possibility (the one I would chose if I were inthe crew's shoes...) might be to get the door to tear off completely and onto the ground, and then two or three crew members could heft it into the boxcar interior - assuming the car was empy, or the load allowed enough room for this...
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph

And if it happened on the road, the car would be set out at the next siding, unless the crew could secure the door in a safe manner. The car, if set out, would either be repaired in place, or have the door secured and moved, likely in a “hospital train” to the next yard with a RIP track where it would be repaired and then sent on its way.  Note that a loaded car would have to have its contents inspected and secured as well.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Claus Schlundwrote:

This box car is having a problem with its door - I dare someone to model that!

   Only on the RIP track. It would never be allowed out on the road (unless it had JUST happened en route).

Tony Thompson





Re: Building Shawmut boxcars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Eric and List Members,
 
I send my thanks to Perry Squier, Ray Breyer, and to Eric for the excellent article! A very enjoyable read!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:23 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Building Shawmut boxcars

Perry Squier shares his work on several new boxcars for his 1923 Pittsburg, Shawmut & Northern layout in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2020/11/18/shawmut-boxcars/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


Re: Rob Manley

Paul Doggett
 

R.I.P. Bob
Paul Doggett   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:20, Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:



I learned Rob Manley, master of Pan Pastel’s, died on Monday. I understand he had a heart attack. Here is his obituary.

https://www.schroederlauer.com/obituary/robert-rob-manley?fbclid=IwAR24csyKzx-SVUKiFxeAbkjBwp02aBPN037gngBCKfyFavb1vExfY5w0up4

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Bill Welch

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
Bill and I got to chat briefly at Cocoa Beach one year, and we conversed via email from time to time after that. At one point, some months before the corona virus situation began, he mentioned he was interested in going to one of the operating sessions that Jared Harper holds from time to time, but he did not want to make the 8 hour plus drive from his place in Florida to Jared's place in Georgia on his own. Since I live part-time in Florida about 30 minutes from his place, I suggested to him we could make the drive together at some point. We agreed to try to coordinate this with Jared and figure out when that could happen and when I would next be in Florida
 
Of course the epidemic and the virus had entirely different plans regarding this, so it didn't happen. Sadly, with his demise, now it will never happen.
 
Even though Bill and I model in different scales, I found his techniques invaluable, they broke through the 'scale barrier', and his writings raised my expectations of myself and my modeling in a way nobody else was able to.
 
I'm sure Bill is now enjoying himself running trains on that great mainline in the sky!
 
Claus Schlund

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bill Welch


I am just too sad right now. I've lost a friend I knew for almost 30 years. Bill had many
passions and railroads and fantastically good modeling were just two of them. :'(


On 11/18/2020 1:18 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Terribly sad news even though Bill told us. He was a terrific modeler but more important he was a wonderful human being. All who knew him will miss him greatly, but many who never met him will mourn his loss. I won’t get over it very quickly.
Tony Thompson 

On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
 I didn’t really know Bill or his family, but was shocked when he advised of his diagnosis.  The suddenness of his death will be very hard for them.   I’m sorry for them and hope the thoughts for his remembrance service make it memorable. 
I will miss the unique vitality and knowledge he brought to clinics and emails, and grateful to what he shared with us.  His modelling has been an inspiration.  And our community will be less with his passing.
It's been a hard year.   
Rob     

On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:

There are getting to be too many empty chairs at the table....
Nine weeks from diagnosis to death.....
Bill was already planning his memorial service when he notified some of his friends of his situation. He had hoped it could be held while he was still alive to enjoy it, but that was not to be. So we'll have to celebrate Bill's life without him. A gentleman and a gentle man, Bill leaves an amazing legacy of accomplishment and inspiration. A life well lived.....
Tom Madden


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Rob Manley

Douglas Harding
 

I learned Rob Manley, master of Pan Pastel’s, died on Monday. I understand he had a heart attack. Here is his obituary.

https://www.schroederlauer.com/obituary/robert-rob-manley?fbclid=IwAR24csyKzx-SVUKiFxeAbkjBwp02aBPN037gngBCKfyFavb1vExfY5w0up4

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: ProtoWest Scale Models

Tim O'Connor
 


I think that was a resin vendor who offered a 70 ton AAR flat car model that was far easier to build than
the SUNSHINE kit but then Intermountain introduced a very good plastic RTR model...



On 11/18/2020 1:31 AM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
I am trying to find a website for ProtoWest Scale Models. I though that I had recently seen one, but I may be mistaken.

If they have one, can one of you provide it to me?

THank you in advance.

Ken Montero

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Bill Welch

Tim O'Connor
 


I am just too sad right now. I've lost a friend I knew for almost 30 years. Bill had many
passions and railroads and fantastically good modeling were just two of them. :'(


On 11/18/2020 1:18 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Terribly sad news even though Bill told us. He was a terrific modeler but more important he was a wonderful human being. All who knew him will miss him greatly, but many who never met him will mourn his loss. I won’t get over it very quickly.
Tony Thompson 

On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
 I didn’t really know Bill or his family, but was shocked when he advised of his diagnosis.  The suddenness of his death will be very hard for them.   I’m sorry for them and hope the thoughts for his remembrance service make it memorable. 
I will miss the unique vitality and knowledge he brought to clinics and emails, and grateful to what he shared with us.  His modelling has been an inspiration.  And our community will be less with his passing.
It's been a hard year.   
Rob     

On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:

There are getting to be too many empty chairs at the table....
Nine weeks from diagnosis to death.....
Bill was already planning his memorial service when he notified some of his friends of his situation. He had hoped it could be held while he was still alive to enjoy it, but that was not to be. So we'll have to celebrate Bill's life without him. A gentleman and a gentle man, Bill leaves an amazing legacy of accomplishment and inspiration. A life well lived.....
Tom Madden


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Bill Welch

radiodial868
 

Ah, nuts...  Finally retired, this was the year that was hoping to meet Bill after years of learning from him via this List how to take my models to the next level.  2020 just keeps taking away.
RIP,  Mr. Welch.
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Bill Welch

Nelson Moyer
 

While Bill had given some of us advanced notice of his condition, I like Tom was shocked at the rapid progression of his cancer, and I was devastated to learn of his passing just nine weeks after diagnosis. Life is fleeting, and for some of us, more fleeting than for others. I think the best tribute to Bill would be to publish his book with posthumous authorship (shared with those who bring it about) and a dedication highlighting his contribution to prototype modeling and the consortium in particular.

 

Bill, you and your modeling will be sorely missed.

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: ProtoWest Scale Models

Bryian Sones
 

Ah ok Bob and Kenneth, Sorry my mistake then.  I guess I don't recall that company ever existing...

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 05:21:33 AM PST, Robert Heninger <gn2059@...> wrote:


ProtoWest was not the same company as A-Line/ProtoPowerWest. 

ProtoWest was most notable on this list for an excellent resin kit for a AAR 70 ton flatcar, although they also had a DRGW caboose and one other kit that escapes me at the moment.

 I remember the proprietor of ProtoWest coming on this list with a close out offer for the flatcars, years ago now. Close to a decade ago, IIRC. I don’t believe they are active at this time.

Regards,
Bob Heninger 
Minot, ND


Re: Bill Welch

Lester Breuer
 

A sad evening when I heard the news of Bill’s passing.  One of reflection.  A southern gentleman with a passion for trains who inspired us and shared with us the way to “Extreme Modeling.”  He will  remain forever in our memories.  Rest In Peace Bill,  you will be missed.
Lester Breuer


Re: Bill Welch

Eric Hansmann
 

Bill did coin the Resinators term. He hosted a couple of gatherings at recent RPM Chicagoland meets that were focused on sharing tips and techniques. Jeff Sankus helped Bill pull those together. Jeff passed away this past January after his battle with cancer. 

 

It’s been a crappy year for prototype modelers.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clark Propst
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bill Welch

 

Was it Bill that coined the term “Resinators”? Xxrteme modeling for sure. He was always rooting for freight car clinics at RPM meets.

Another great one gone…

Clark Propst

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Building Shawmut boxcars

Eric Hansmann
 

Perry Squier shares his work on several new boxcars for his 1923 Pittsburg, Shawmut & Northern layout in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2020/11/18/shawmut-boxcars/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


Re: ProtoWest Scale Models

Robert Heninger
 

ProtoWest was not the same company as A-Line/ProtoPowerWest. 

ProtoWest was most notable on this list for an excellent resin kit for a AAR 70 ton flatcar, although they also had a DRGW caboose and one other kit that escapes me at the moment.

 I remember the proprietor of ProtoWest coming on this list with a close out offer for the flatcars, years ago now. Close to a decade ago, IIRC. I don’t believe they are active at this time.

Regards,
Bob Heninger 
Minot, ND


Re: Bill Welch

al_brown03
 

R.I.P. Bill. I look forward to your masterwork.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: ProtoWest Scale Models

Bryian Sones
 

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 10:32:03 PM PST, Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:


I am trying to find a website for ProtoWest Scale Models. I though that I had recently seen one, but I may be mistaken.

If they have one, can one of you provide it to me?

THank you in advance.

Ken Montero


ProtoWest Scale Models

Kenneth Montero
 

I am trying to find a website for ProtoWest Scale Models. I though that I had recently seen one, but I may be mistaken.

If they have one, can one of you provide it to me?

THank you in advance.

Ken Montero


Re: Bill Welch

Tony Thompson
 

Terribly sad news even though Bill told us. He was a terrific modeler but more important he was a wonderful human being. All who knew him will miss him greatly, but many who never met him will mourn his loss. I won’t get over it very quickly.
Tony Thompson 


On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:09 PM, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:

 I didn’t really know Bill or his family, but was shocked when he advised of his diagnosis.  The suddenness of his death will be very hard for them.   I’m sorry for them and hope the thoughts for his remembrance service make it memorable.  

I will miss the unique vitality and knowledge he brought to clinics and emails, and grateful to what he shared with us.  His modelling has been an inspiration.  And our community will be less with his passing.

It's been a hard year.    

Rob     



On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:

There are getting to be too many empty chairs at the table....

Nine weeks from diagnosis to death.....

Bill was already planning his memorial service when he notified some of his friends of his situation. He had hoped it could be held while he was still alive to enjoy it, but that was not to be. So we'll have to celebrate Bill's life without him. A gentleman and a gentle man, Bill leaves an amazing legacy of accomplishment and inspiration. A life well lived.....

Tom Madden

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