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Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

golden1014
 

Thank you Steffan for the photo and everyone else for your replies.  The photo is perfect--it's the right view from the right era.  I see the difference now in the kit-supplied end vs. the proto-photo. I owe you one!

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany

RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/ 


Re: Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi Schuyler,

    Its a great example of why the Fowler Patent used on the first 9,000 or so Dominion Cars fell from favor so fast.
If the car builder used good seasoned and kiln dried lumber for sheathing and then properly painted it there was very 
little shrinkage making some cars, like this No. Pac. car, look as though they might have steel sheathing when they 
didn't. I'll never understand how the Fowler Patent got as far as it did unless some railroad purchasing agent bought 
into the idea without checking with anyone in his own car shop. Anyone who had worked for any length of time with 
wood would have known better. 

My best, Don Valentine


Re: Photos: "New Roof" Stencil (1945-1946)

Larry Wolohon
 

Those boxcars are D&RGW, 3' gauge cars, which were rebuilt many times. Larry Wolohon

On 11/20/2020 5:40 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
 
 

Photos: "New Roof" Stencil (1945-1946)

Photos from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/47332/rec/35

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/47336/rec/38

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/47339/rec/40

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photos to enlarge them and scroll to enlarge them further.

The stencils are to the left of the door near the roofline. This stencil is new to me, maybe not to others.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


ADMIN: Search STMFC question

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Andy,

 

               Good question – and probably one that other people also have. 

 

Step 1. Go to the groups.io page for RealSTMFC.  It is at https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/topics .

Step 2. Make sure you’re logged in.  In the upper right corner, you should see your name.  If you do see your name, you’re logged in; if you don’t see your name, I think you’ll see some kind of login button.

Step 3.  Find the Search button.  Make sure you’ve selected “Messages” at the left, and then you should be able to Search.

 

See the attached picture for details.

 

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 8:09 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Search STMFC question

 

Hi-

 

I am reminded often that we can search for previous STMFC,io posts on subjects of our interest. Tonight I tried to find a search engine on the STMFC.io home page. I could not find one.

 

I admit to be at near the bottom of the curve when it comes to computer savvy skills. My search was inspired this week with a short thread about scale board groove gaps for model train single sheathed freight cars. I seem to recall that both the MDC and Walthers products of 50' single sheathed auto box cars came out originally close to the same time. I also seem to remember that Richard Hendrickson mentioned the prototype for the Walthers car was thought to be non existent.

 

Is the Walthers car close to any North American prototype? I admire the boards on the Walthers cars and feel them to be nicely done with the groove exagerations held in check. In particular, is there any chance for an easy kit bash into something real?

 

Any help here is appreciated, Stay safe, friends!

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA


Re: Search STMFC question

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Oooops!  Sorry:

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...>
Date: 11/24/20 7:04 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Search STMFC question

Hi Again Andy:
.
hile you are searching could you please forward a copy of the Great Northern box xar I n question?  When I got home and went to compare the ends the photo had escaped my computer.

Thanks:

Bill





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-------- Original message --------
From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...>
Date: 11/24/20 6:08 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Search STMFC question

Hi-

I am reminded often that we can search for previous STMFC,io posts on subjects of our interest. Tonight I tried to find a search engine on the STMFC.io home page. I could not find one.

I admit to be at near the bottom of the curve when it comes to computer savvy skills. My search was inspired this week with a short thread about scale board groove gaps for model train single sheathed freight cars. I seem to recall that both the MDC and Walthers products of 50' single sheathed auto box cars came out originally close to the same time. I also seem to remember that Richard Hendrickson mentioned the prototype for the Walthers car was thought to be non existent.

Is the Walthers car close to any North American prototype? I admire the boards on the Walthers cars and feel them to be nicely done with the groove exagerations held in check. In particular, is there any chance for an easy kit bash into something real?

Any help here is appreciated, Stay safe, friends!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Search STMFC question

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Hi Again Andy:
.
hile you are searching could you please forward a copy of the Great Northern box xar I n question?  When I got home and went to compare the ends the photo had escaped my computer.

Thanks:

Bill





Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...>
Date: 11/24/20 6:08 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Search STMFC question

Hi-

I am reminded often that we can search for previous STMFC,io posts on subjects of our interest. Tonight I tried to find a search engine on the STMFC.io home page. I could not find one.

I admit to be at near the bottom of the curve when it comes to computer savvy skills. My search was inspired this week with a short thread about scale board groove gaps for model train single sheathed freight cars. I seem to recall that both the MDC and Walthers products of 50' single sheathed auto box cars came out originally close to the same time. I also seem to remember that Richard Hendrickson mentioned the prototype for the Walthers car was thought to be non existent.

Is the Walthers car close to any North American prototype? I admire the boards on the Walthers cars and feel them to be nicely done with the groove exagerations held in check. In particular, is there any chance for an easy kit bash into something real?

Any help here is appreciated, Stay safe, friends!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Search STMFC question

Guy Wilber
 

Andy wrote:

“I am reminded often that we can search for previous STMFC,io posts on subjects of our interest. Tonight I tried to find a search engine on the STMFC.io home page. I could not find one.”

Click on “View/Reply Online” below any post.  Click search in the next window and go nuts.  You’ll be amazed what we have covered in the last 20 years!

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Search STMFC question

Andy Carlson
 

Hi-

I am reminded often that we can search for previous STMFC,io posts on subjects of our interest. Tonight I tried to find a search engine on the STMFC.io home page. I could not find one.

I admit to be at near the bottom of the curve when it comes to computer savvy skills. My search was inspired this week with a short thread about scale board groove gaps for model train single sheathed freight cars. I seem to recall that both the MDC and Walthers products of 50' single sheathed auto box cars came out originally close to the same time. I also seem to remember that Richard Hendrickson mentioned the prototype for the Walthers car was thought to be non existent.

Is the Walthers car close to any North American prototype? I admire the boards on the Walthers cars and feel them to be nicely done with the groove exagerations held in check. In particular, is there any chance for an easy kit bash into something real?

Any help here is appreciated, Stay safe, friends!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


SOLD:

Jim Hayes
 

WESTERFIELD KIT 6001.


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] Pacific Fruit Express Reefer 46701, PFE class R-40-20

Tony Thompson
 

Lester Breuer wrote:

I have upgraded Pacific Fruit Express (PFE), Refrigerator Car 46701 , PFE Class R-40-20 . . .  If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


  Nice job, Lester, and nicely described as to the various steps in "correcting" the InterMountain foobie. They have released a single-herald R-40-23 a couple of times, and I guess I am done "alerting" them to the error. And of course I was delighted that you had consulted the PROPER prototype references <g>.
    Lester's work makes a nicer car than the R-40-20 that I kitbashed from an Athearn body I wrote a series of blog posts about that conversion and an accompanying R-40-14 project. I provide a link below to the final post in that series if you're interested.


Tony Thompson




Uploaded file on Lowering Intermountain boxcars

Richard Remiarz
 

My posts on lowering Intermountain boxcars generated a number comments.  Jim Brewer was kind enough to combine all of the emails into one document so that it could be posted in the files section.  I made a coupe of updates to the document and posted it in the files section.  It is titled Lowering Intermountain Truck Bolsters.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Union Pacific Armour Yellow Paint

Tony Thompson
 

Something I've always wondered about...
Is it called Armour Yellow because it was the color Armour painted their reefers, back before there was a PFE?

      The 1920s UP color chip set shows both Armour Yellow and PFE yellow on it, though the two were similar.

Tony Thompson




File /Lowering Intermountain Truck Bolsters.doc uploaded #file-notice

main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the main@RealSTMFC.groups.io group.

By: Richard Remiarz

Description:
Lowering bolsters on Intermountain boxcars


Re: Union Pacific Armour Yellow Paint

lrkdbn
 

Guess I should have read the link before running my mouth...
Larry King


Re: Union Pacific Armour Yellow Paint

lrkdbn
 

Something I've always wondered about...
Is it called Armour Yellow because it was the color Armour painted their reefers, back before there was a PFE?
Larry King


Re: Photo: ATSF Auto/Furniture Boxcar 65514 Fe-R (1934)

 

Large resolution file location (3598x2071) pixels: http://digital.denverlibrary.org/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=p15330coll22&CISOPTR=55062&action=2&DMSCALE=100&DMWIDTH=7000&DMHEIGHT=600081

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Bob Chaparro via groups.io" <chiefbobbb@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: ATSF Auto/Furniture Boxcar 65514 Fe-R (1934)

 

Photo: ATSF Auto/Furniture Boxcar 65514 Fe-R (1934)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/55062/rec/60

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarge it further.

Double sheathed, door-and-a-half design.

One of 500 cars (Series 65201-65700) ordered in 1926 from Pullman. There were other series of Fe-R cars as well.

Pullman applied lines above the reporting marks and below the car numbers, not a typical Santa Fe practice.

The Class Fe-R cars were rebuilt into steel sheathed Class Bx-40 boxcars during World War II. A total of 1,208 Fe-R cars in three groups were so converted.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: LV 9951 series, was: Photo: Reading Well Hole Flat Car 99009 (Undated)

Chuck Cover
 

Beautiful job on the kit.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM

 

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Re: LV 9951 series, was: Photo: Reading Well Hole Flat Car 99009 (Undated)

O Fenton Wells
 

Great job on that kit.  Red Ball were not easy to get right.  I built the depressed center flatcar in highschool and used Walthers Goo as that was what the instructions suggested.  As a highschool student I was not proficient in Goo.
Fenton

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 3:24 PM Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...> wrote:
As stated earlier, here’s my photo of the HO Redball LV 56’ well-hole flat ...


I’ll make one correction to my earlier post … the deck is imbossed cardstock. As stated the ends and sides are set metal castings, the frame is wood, with blocks for the ends and stips for the sides. The trucks are pasenger trucks fitted with smaller 33” wheelsets. Detailing is basic, as I had no better info at the time. The load is also Redball, a new crane bridge. I built this car perhaps 40 years ago, and it’s seen a lot of service.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...> wrote:

Mine, built from a quite old kit (ca. 1960), has wooden blocks for the end platforms, and soft metal overlays for the top decks, sides, and ends. NO trucks came with it. I used modified 3-axle passenger trucks. I’ll try to post a photo of the model soon.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:

On 11/20/2020 6:57 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell wrote:
Redball used to offer a wood & metal kit of this car in HO scale. I have one. It’s a bit crude by modern standards, but with a little work makes an unusual and quite presentable model.

Dan Mitchell

    I have one of these.  I believe the sides are card-stock.  The wheels in the RB trucks are 28".

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS




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Re: LV 9951 series, was: Photo: Reading Well Hole Flat Car 99009 (Undated)

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

As stated earlier, here’s my photo of the HO Redball LV 56’ well-hole flat ...


I’ll make one correction to my earlier post … the deck is imbossed cardstock. As stated the ends and sides are set metal castings, the frame is wood, with blocks for the ends and stips for the sides. The trucks are pasenger trucks fitted with smaller 33” wheelsets. Detailing is basic, as I had no better info at the time. The load is also Redball, a new crane bridge. I built this car perhaps 40 years ago, and it’s seen a lot of service.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...> wrote:

Mine, built from a quite old kit (ca. 1960), has wooden blocks for the end platforms, and soft metal overlays for the top decks, sides, and ends. NO trucks came with it. I used modified 3-axle passenger trucks. I’ll try to post a photo of the model soon.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:

On 11/20/2020 6:57 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell wrote:
Redball used to offer a wood & metal kit of this car in HO scale. I have one. It’s a bit crude by modern standards, but with a little work makes an unusual and quite presentable model.

Dan Mitchell

    I have one of these.  I believe the sides are card-stock.  The wheels in the RB trucks are 28".

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS



Re: HO Tank Car Lid

Tony Thompson
 

Garth Groff wrote:

I'll probably hate myself in the morning for suggesting this. I really enjoy rescuing those old metal tanks, and have saved several. They were in some ways more accurate models than their plastic replacements of the 1960s from Varney, LifeLike, Walthers, and yes, Athearn.

Having done some of those same restorations myself, Garth, I entirely agree with you.

Tony Thompson



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