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Re: Car ID just for fun

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Tim,

I see what you mean. I wonder if you have to be signed up as a member to have it work. I'm not, and I don't like signing in to sites for security reasons. In any case, I used the site extensively last month to fill in some multi-volume articles where I had not saved one of the numbers which I was scanning from paper. Glad I acted when I did.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:09 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Garth, it's the actual magazine pages that fail with an error code. Maybe it works for some people.
The world wide web is becoming increasingly fractured.

http://magazine.trainlife.com/ptm_1986_8/


On 11/28/2020 6:51 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Ed,

I just got in with no problem using this URL: https://www.trainlife.com/pages/the-magazine-library .

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 6:24 PM Ed Shoben <ejshoben@...> wrote:
I too found trainlife’s magazine section down. -Ed




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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Frisco “Sawtooth” boxcar photo

Marty McGuirk
 

Anyone have a prototype photo (or reference to one) of these cars as they would have looked in the 1930s?
The Westerfield kit (their no. 11251) has a couple of builders photos, but would like to see a prototype picture before I move forward with this car.
Thanks!
Marty McGuirk
Sent from my iPhone


Silent Film With Santa Fe Livestock Cars & Scenes

Bob Chaparro
 

Silent Film With Santa Fe Livestock Cars & Scenes

Courtesy of Steve Rippeteau, here is a link to the 1925 Buster Keaton film, Go West!

https://youtu.be/AIEMzrd4LTQ

The scenes of interest are at 43-50 minutes into the film and at 1:05. There is quite a bit of time spent on the roofs of the cars so the roof details are well documented.

Movie Storyline:

With little luck at keeping a job in the city a New Yorker tries work in the country and eventually finds his way leading a herd of cattle to the West Coast.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars

Tim
 

I just finished up some IC boxcars with the square corner. 
I also did a Centralia built Pullman Kit car. 



Tim Alund 

On Nov 30, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Jeffrey White <jrwhite@...> wrote:



That will be great! A correct IC steel boxcar!

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 11/30/2020 8:58 AM, Frank Hodina wrote:
Working on finishing up a new one-peice body kit for the IC square corner post cars.

Frank Hodina
Resin Car Works


Re: IC 50' double door single sheathed box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Hi Al,

 

I’ve been away for a few days (and just went for a COVID test so I don’t have to quarantine for two weeks, just a couple days) but I’m late to this conversation about this NP car.  What’s the origin of your car?  Sunshine?  Or some other kit?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of al_brown03
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] IC 50' double door single sheathed box car

 

Here's mine, FWIW. 


Re: TRAINLIFE site issues - used to be Car ID just for fun

Bob Thompson
 

Further to the Trainlife magazine issue I emailed them a couple of days ago and they responded that they had fixed the problem but it was broken again. I assume they are working on it.

Bob Thompson
North Saanich, BC


Re: A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars - dimension rounding

akerboomk
 

RE: Rounding

Once the ARA/AAR/whomever went to “whole” inches…

-       Inside dimensions are rounded DOWN to the whole inch value

-       Outside dimensions are rounded UP to the whole inch value.

 

For example, in the NMRA 1/53 ORER reprint, see p786 and after

 

And I’ve seen B&M dimensions xx/16”

Just gotta laugh at their belief that they could hold that!

 

Ken


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Ken Akerboom


Re: TRAINLIFE site issues - used to be Car ID just for fun

Ed Shoben
 

Claus-

 

This is great!  How did you ever figure it out?

 

For those looking for Railway Model Journal and Prototype Modeler, the three letter abbreviations are rmj and ptm, respectively. I found with the latter that using the first of two months worked, i.e. “05” for the “May-June” issue.

 

Thanks again.

 

Ed Shoben


Re: TRAINLIFE site issues - used to be Car ID just for fun

Drew Bunn
 

It may be possible to go old school and access the parent directory with an FTP client, if you can find one..


On Mon., Nov. 30, 2020, 13:09 Ken Adams, <smadanek44g@...> wrote:
It appears not all issues are in the wp-content folder.
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Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: TRAINLIFE site issues - used to be Car ID just for fun

Ken Adams
 

It appears not all issues are in the wp-content folder.
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Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: C&NW colors uploaded

gary laakso
 

That will be the color that I use on the two in-line following the W&LE, ACL and the P&WV gondolas, all of which are black. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Adams
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 9:31 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&NW colors uploaded

 

Thanks Gary for pointing that out. I missed it in spite of several reads of the article. 

This is the Accurail gondola body in the Tamiya Red Oxide Primer. Perhaps it could qualify as a "fairly bright oxide red". 

--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars

Jeffrey White
 

That will be great! A correct IC steel boxcar!

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 11/30/2020 8:58 AM, Frank Hodina wrote:
Working on finishing up a new one-peice body kit for the IC square corner post cars.

Frank Hodina
Resin Car Works


Re: A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars

Jeffrey White
 

Tim,

The diagram for the IC cars shows the IH at 10' 4 7/8" at the sides. So the difference is 1 1/8". 

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 11/30/2020 9:30 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Has anyone got proof (dimension drawing or blueprint) that shows where the 2" may be found? For example
on some cars the doors were hung a bit lower. And floor thickness and materials are variable. And some cars
received 'finished' interior roof linings. Just wonderin' ... the IC was definitely not the only operator of 10'4" IH
box cars.


On 11/28/2020 7:38 PM, Rich C via groups.io wrote:
True, but I won't tell anyone, lol. The 3 foot rule applies
Rich Christie

On Saturday, November 28, 2020, 06:33:15 PM CST, Tim via groups.io <atoolman2@...> wrote:


The Illinois Central IH was 10’4”. 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: C&NW colors uploaded

Ken Adams
 

Thanks Gary for pointing that out. I missed it in spite of several reads of the article. 

This is the Accurail gondola body in the Tamiya Red Oxide Primer. Perhaps it could qualify as a "fairly bright oxide red". 

--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: C&I Hopper

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi George and List Members,
 
I have seen a photo of a CTH&SE (Chicago, Terre Haute, and Southerstern, a Milwaukee Road subsidiary) twin hopper wrecked on the RUTLAND railroad.
 
So clearly hoppers could get around at least occasionally, altho maybe less so than other car types.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&I Hopper

In Ed Wolfe's book on the small, Appalachian railroad, the Interstate, he mentioned they tracked off line cars and some were months in returning.  They had to threaten the B&O who was  the worse for using Interstate hoppers in their area.  Interstate hoppers went north to piers on the great lakes.  Oddly, i have seen a 1953 photo of a Lehigh Valley twin hopper wrecked on the Interstate.  In the early days of this hobby. both Al Kalmbach and Bruce Chubb, following Al,  put out the commonsense, but inaccurate idea that cars did not travel far from home.   If a customer had an order for a hundred cars of coal and the railroad only had 90 cars, it would have been bad business practice to not use 10 foreign hoppers on your line and available.  Or you could inform the customer he would have to wait while you sent the extra foreign road cars home because you could not use them.  Perhaps a misunderstanding on my part, but I thought each ARA railroad had to contribute their share of whatever kind of regular car to the national pool for boxcars and gons and flats. If your railroad did 8% of the boxcar business, then the ARA expected you to built and contribute 8% of the boxcars which could go anywhere.  Back on topic, I've seen DVD's of the N&W moving blocks of Interstate hoppers to their docks in Norfolk.



George Courtney


TRAINLIFE site issues - used to be Car ID just for fun

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I too have has much trouble accessing the TRAINLIFE site.
 
One work-around that I have found, that appears to work as of this current moment, is to build a URL that is based around the example shown below...
 
 
Clicking on the above URL will take you to the May 1991 issue of Model Railroading from the TRAINLIFE site. As mentioned, this appears to work as of the moment, even though the 'normal' access to the site is currently down
 
Note that the URL has a four digit year and a two digit month near the end just before the period. By altering this year and month to what you want, you can access other back issues of Model Railroading
 
I imagine if you know the correct three-letter code to substitute for "mrr" in the example URL you may be able to access other magazines besides Model Railroading
 
Hope this helps
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Car ID just for fun

I just tried it (Sunday, 11/29, 4:28 PDT) and got down to the third menu, tried a specific issue and got the “"Error establishing a data base connection"

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

 


Photo: ATSF 126970 Bx-12 (1968)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: ATSF 126970 Bx-12 (1968)

A photo courtesy of Stan Kistler.

One of 3,500 Bx-12s purchased by Santa Fe in 1930 from three different builders.  This car was built by Pullman.

Sign on car (probably) reads "Assigned To Signal Dept."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars

Tim O'Connor
 


Careful! I have not double-checked this, but I -think- the Yarmouth 5-5 end may be an old Kirlin resin cast end
which was a 5-5 end made for some Canadian 10-0 IH 1937 AAR box cars. I am not familiar with Chad's door.



On 11/28/2020 5:41 PM, Rich C via groups.io wrote:
Sunshine and later  Resin Car Works made mini-kits to use with the Intermountain Modified Height car, for those roads. Of course they have been sold out. Chad Boas and Pierre Oliver (Yarmouth Model Works) offer the square corner 5/5's

Rich Christie

On Saturday, November 28, 2020, 03:05:43 PM CST, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:


Aw, Tim. You tantalized us. 

The three known 10' 6" S-corner 40' all-steel boxcar owners were DSS&A, IC, and Soo.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: A list of square corner '37 AAR box cars

Frank Hodina
 

The diagram has an inside clear height of 10'-4 7/8". The general arrangement has it at 10'-5 15/32" (like it can be measured that close). Looks like the number is rounded down to the nearest even inch.

Frank Hodina 


Re: Car ID just for fun

O Fenton Wells
 

It certainly is not working for me
fenton

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:09 AM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Garth, it's the actual magazine pages that fail with an error code. Maybe it works for some people.
The world wide web is becoming increasingly fractured.

http://magazine.trainlife.com/ptm_1986_8/


On 11/28/2020 6:51 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Ed,

I just got in with no problem using this URL: https://www.trainlife.com/pages/the-magazine-library .

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 6:24 PM Ed Shoben <ejshoben@...> wrote:
I too found trainlife’s magazine section down. -Ed




--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts



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