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Re: SLSF 53395
mopacfirst
Changing the focus of this thread slightly. First thing I noticed is that most or all of the stenciling on the sides was done on steel sheet attached to the wooden car side. Presumably this was done because the paint would stay readable longer if applied to steel instead of wood.
Ron Merrick
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Re: SLSF 53395
Guy Wilber
Dave Nelson wrote:
“Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s.” The most glaring element of this load is the stakes. They are laminated, each made up from what appears to be two 2” x 6” rough sawn boards. The use of such stakes was not permissible until 1960. The railroad has likely photographed the car to bolster their billing charges incurred for bringing the load into compliance. The road which originally accepted the car is responsible for the cost of labor and materials. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
Priceless. Thanks.
Jim van Gaasbeek Irvine, CA
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
akerboomk
RE: Painting interior:
Dunk it in the paint, roll around till all surfaces covered, shake off the excess?
;-)
Kind of like the neighbor I had who painted his car with a roller…
-- Ken Akerboom
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Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)
A tight zoom yields the SSW marks.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 10:09 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)
The Cotton Belt had some boxcars with these two-section ends.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)
Eric Hansmann
The Cotton Belt had some boxcars with these two-section ends.
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)
Jim Gates
Somebody 12252? Pretty sure the number is correct. Jim Gates
On Monday, December 28, 2020, 09:49:10 PM CST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918) A photo from the Denver Public Library: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51 Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image. The number on the car's end appears to be 12252. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)
Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918) A photo from the Denver Public Library: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51 Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image. The number on the car's end appears to be 12252. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: SLSF 53395
This same photo is available for free at the Newberry Library.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Tom Madden
I spent over 20 years in commercial rapid prototyping (3D printing) and the primary purpose of 3D printing is to prove in a design. I've yet to meet a designer who gets everything right the first time, or see a first print that met every requirement. It's an iterative process. So it's always bothered me to see designs offered for sale on Shapeways based only on a digital image. That tells me the designer wants others to pay to find his mistakes. "Oh, the print's no good? Here's your money back. Please tell me where itr can be improved." I know the field has advanced considerably since I retired over four years ago, and 3D printed objects are much higher quality. But the designer's work isn't done until the actual product exists in usable form. Since I retired and lost access to in-house printers I've sent over 100 designs to Shapeways - and had every one of them printed. Many of those were test prints so I could see where designs needed to be modified, and most final prints ended up as patterns for resin casting. Maybe that makes me "old school", but I want to see that an actual object has been created before laying out the bucks.
Tom Madden
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Jeffrey White
Dan, I just finished a 3D printed kit of an Illinois Central 500
Series Cistern (auxiliary tender). It wasn't a bad kit. I posted
a review on MRH, I didn't post it here because it's not a freight
car. The detail quality was as good as any resin kit I've built,
the only things I didn't like is there were diagonal marks on the
sides of the car from the printing process. I didn't try to sand
them out because I was afraid they would go all the way through
the print and the steps were very brittle and easy to break. I think 3D printing an entire car is probably the future for specialty cars that there isn't a huge market for. I don't think 3D printing will replace resin or plastic kits. Jeff White Alma IL
On 12/28/2020 7:13 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
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Re: SLSF 53395
Schuyler Larrabee
Looks to me that the photo may have been taken on account of the upper layers sliding a little too freely, especially the far stack.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Nelson
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:12 PM To: STMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] SLSF 53395
Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s. https://portal-ccc.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/newberry/83/x05xj2r.jpg Dave Nelson
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Garth Groff posted a link to the shapeways helium car in post # 153917 on 11/29/17. Looked at it back then, price was lower, and I was hoping someone would comment on the quality of the print. If as Tom says, none have been produced, wow. 3d printing of the components as a starting point may be the way to go for those that have enough info on these cars and the drive to produce a kit. But a one piece printed car, that I would have to see first.. Dan Smith
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Note that this is the 4th generation, AC&F 1955 car. In addition to the price, concern that it has never been printed, and somewhat rough, attached details, it is not appropriate for those of us modeling an earlier era.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Ken O'Brien <kobrien1600@...>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:12 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] unusual models for sale on ebay There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shops
It's not cheap.
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
Given that it is accurate, and one buys one, how does one paint the tinerior surfaces uniformly?
Jim van Gaasbeek Irvine, CA
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Tony Thompson
There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shopsIf I interpret the "Success Rate" correctly, the next one sold will be the first. Also the car looks to be available only in HO - there's a helium container available in both HO and N. Note also that the image shown is a "digital preview," not a photo. Tony Thompson
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Tom Madden
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 04:12 PM, Ken O'Brien wrote:
There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shopsIf I interpret the "Success Rate" correctly, the next one sold will be the first. Also the car looks to be available only in HO - there's a helium container available in both HO and N. Tom Madden
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Ken O'Brien
There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shops
It's not cheap.
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
Richard Townsend
What impressed me the most was the creative application of the panels on the hopper. Very imaginative. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: ed_mines via groups.io <ed_mines@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2020 5:38 am Subject: [RealSTMFC] unusual models for sale on ebay looks like someone had a pencil sharpener
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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay
My Dad built dozens of Ambroid, Quality Craft and other craftsman kits of that era - which he later sold at train meets in Texas in the late 1980's. They were all expertly built and I sometimes wonder if they're still in collections down there... I know the helium and poultry cars were among them as was that weird NYC (?) wood gondola with sides that slanted inwards...
On 12/28/2020 5:57 PM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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