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Re: SLSF 53395

mopacfirst
 

Changing the focus of this thread slightly.  First thing I noticed is that most or all of the stenciling on the sides was done on steel sheet attached to the wooden car side.  Presumably this was done because the paint would stay readable longer if applied to steel instead of wood.

Ron Merrick


Re: SLSF 53395

Guy Wilber
 

Dave Nelson wrote:

Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s.”

The most glaring element of this load is the stakes.  They are laminated, each made up from what appears to be two 2” x 6” rough sawn boards.  The use of such stakes was not permissible until 1960.

The railroad has likely photographed the car to bolster their billing charges incurred for bringing the load into compliance.  The road which originally accepted the car is responsible for the cost of labor and materials.

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Priceless.  Thanks.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

 


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

akerboomk
 

RE: Painting interior:

 

Dunk it in the paint, roll around till all surfaces covered, shake off the excess?

 

;-)

 

Kind of like the neighbor I had who painted his car with a roller…

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Steve and Barb Hile
 

A tight zoom yields the SSW marks.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
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The Cotton Belt had some boxcars with these two-section ends. 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Eric Hansmann
 

The Cotton Belt had some boxcars with these two-section ends. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Jim Gates
 


Somebody 12252? Pretty sure the number is correct.

Jim Gates

On Monday, December 28, 2020, 09:49:10 PM CST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: SLSF 53395

Bob Chaparro
 

This same photo is available for free at the Newberry Library.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Tom Madden
 

I spent over 20 years in commercial rapid prototyping (3D printing) and the primary purpose of 3D printing is to prove in a design. I've yet to meet a designer who gets everything right the first time, or see a first print that met every requirement. It's an iterative process. So it's always bothered me to see designs offered for sale on Shapeways based only on a digital image. That tells me the designer wants others to pay to find his mistakes. "Oh, the print's no good? Here's your money back. Please tell me where itr can be improved." I know the field has advanced considerably since I retired over four years ago, and 3D printed objects are much higher quality. But the designer's work isn't done until the actual product exists in usable form. Since I retired and lost access to in-house printers I've sent over 100 designs to Shapeways - and had every one of them printed. Many of those were test prints so I could see where designs needed to be modified, and most final prints ended up as patterns for resin casting. Maybe that makes me "old school", but I want to see that an actual object has been created before laying out the bucks.

Tom Madden


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Jeffrey White
 

Dan,

I just finished a 3D printed kit of an Illinois Central 500 Series Cistern (auxiliary tender). It wasn't a bad kit.  I posted a review on MRH, I didn't post it here because it's not a freight car.  The detail quality was as good as any resin kit I've built, the only things I didn't like is there were diagonal marks on the sides of the car from the printing process.  I didn't try to sand them out because I was afraid they would go all the way through the print and the steps were very brittle and easy to break.

I think 3D printing an entire car is probably the future for specialty cars that there isn't a huge market for.  I don't think 3D printing will replace resin or plastic kits.

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 12/28/2020 7:13 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
Garth Groff posted a link to the shapeways helium car in post # 153917 on 11/29/17.

Looked at it back then, price was lower, and I was hoping someone would comment on the quality of the print.

If as Tom says, none have been produced, wow.

3d printing of the components as a starting point may be the way to go for those that have enough info on these cars and
the drive to produce a kit. But a one piece printed car, that I would have to see first..

Dan Smith


Re: SLSF 53395

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Looks to me that the photo may have been taken on account of the upper layers sliding a little too freely, especially the far stack.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Nelson
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] SLSF 53395

 

Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s.

https://portal-ccc.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/newberry/83/x05xj2r.jpg

Dave Nelson

 


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

 

Garth Groff posted a link to the shapeways helium car in post # 153917 on 11/29/17.

Looked at it back then, price was lower, and I was hoping someone would comment on the quality of the print.

If as Tom says, none have been produced, wow.

3d printing of the components as a starting point may be the way to go for those that have enough info on these cars and
the drive to produce a kit. But a one piece printed car, that I would have to see first..

Dan Smith


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Bruce Smith
 

Note that this is the 4th generation, AC&F 1955 car. In addition to the price, concern that it has never been printed, and somewhat rough, attached details, it is not appropriate for those of us modeling an earlier era.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] unusual models for sale on ebay
 
There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shops

It's not cheap.


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Given that it is accurate, and one buys one, how does one paint the tinerior surfaces uniformly?

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Tony Thompson
 

There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shops

Tom Madden replied: 
If I interpret the "Success Rate" correctly, the next one sold will be the first. Also the car looks to be available only in HO - there's a helium container available in both HO and N.

   Note also that the image shown is a "digital preview," not a photo.

Tony Thompson




Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Tom Madden
 

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 04:12 PM, Ken O'Brien wrote:
There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shops

It's not cheap.
If I interpret the "Success Rate" correctly, the next one sold will be the first. Also the car looks to be available only in HO - there's a helium container available in both HO and N.

Tom Madden


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Ken O'Brien
 

There is a 3D printed version in HO and N scales from one vendor. Here's the link: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LW9LLSR2D/helium-acf-with-roof-support?optionId=64168446&li=shops

It's not cheap.


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Richard Townsend
 

What impressed me the most was the creative application of the panels on the hopper. Very imaginative.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] unusual models for sale on ebay

looks like someone had a pencil sharpener


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Tim O'Connor
 


My Dad built dozens of Ambroid, Quality Craft and other craftsman kits of that era - which he later
sold at train meets in Texas in the late 1980's. They were all expertly built and I sometimes wonder
if they're still in collections down there... I know the helium and poultry cars were among them as
was that weird NYC (?) wood gondola with sides that slanted inwards...



On 12/28/2020 5:57 PM, Kenneth Montero wrote:
AHM had a helium car made by Roco: http://ho-scaletrains.com/ahm-helium-carrier/
 
Ken Montero
On 12/28/2020 8:55 AM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
 
 
Ed,
 
To quote the instructions "Taper tank ends, using a dime store pencil sharpener. Use care to taper all equally."  Sadly the modeler took it a bit too far!
 
That's just one of the challenging aspects of this kit. I'd love to see a high quality helium car (pre- or WWII era) in resin and I've thought about building a set (they usually travelled in pairs) from styrene and resin (make one "perfect" tank and then cast the 28 or 30 needed).
 
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
 
 
 

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looks like someone had a pencil sharpener


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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