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Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Tim O'Connor
 


And for $27 including shipping (!) I simply cannot find fault with this great value! :-)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303678423809



On 12/28/2020 10:02 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io wrote:
I spent over 20 years in commercial rapid prototyping (3D printing) and the primary purpose of 3D printing is to prove in a design. I've yet to meet a designer who gets everything right the first time, or see a first print that met every requirement. It's an iterative process. So it's always bothered me to see designs offered for sale on Shapeways based only on a digital image. That tells me the designer wants others to pay to find his mistakes. "Oh, the print's no good? Here's your money back. Please tell me where itr can be improved." I know the field has advanced considerably since I retired over four years ago, and 3D printed objects are much higher quality. But the designer's work isn't done until the actual product exists in usable form. Since I retired and lost access to in-house printers I've sent over 100 designs to Shapeways - and had every one of them printed. Many of those were test prints so I could see where designs needed to be modified, and most final prints ended up as patterns for resin casting. Maybe that makes me "old school", but I want to see that an actual object has been created before laying out the bucks.

Tom Madden

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
I think I see the date built, stencilled under the billboard letters "RIO".
 
It might read BLT 4-1922, but it is somewhat blurry.
 
Anyone know DRGW rolling stock well enough to say if I am reading this correctly?
 
TIA
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/81310/rec/333

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Description:

A Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad standard gauge gondola car #70298 is loaded with sugar beets in Monte Vista (Rio Grande County), Colorado. A man stands on the sugar beet loader, beside a conveyor.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: SLSF 53395

Eric Hansmann
 

Bingo! Thanks for the info, Rich.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 12/29/2020 5:00 PM Rich C via groups.io <rhcdmc@...> wrote:


According to the RPI site:

  • In 1928-'29, the Frisco built more USRA-clones, in the 53100-53346 series (1928) and 53350-53647 series (1929), with Dreadnaught ends from Union Metal Products, Ajax hand brakes, and Bettendorf trucks. In 1949, the series was listed as 53100-53647 series, 491 cars.

Rich Christie
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Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/81310/rec/333

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Description:

A Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad standard gauge gondola car #70298 is loaded with sugar beets in Monte Vista (Rio Grande County), Colorado. A man stands on the sugar beet loader, beside a conveyor.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: CB&Q Flat Car 91665 With Locomotive Load (1941)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CB&Q Flat Car 91665 With Locomotive Load (1941)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/76860/rec/23

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Description:

View of a Colorado and Southern narrow gauge locomotive no. 60 on a flat car at the Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy, Denver shops in Denver, Colorado. The locomotive has a cow catcher and a headlamp. Lettering on the locomotive reads: "60" and "B-4-C." Lettering on the flat car reads: "CB&Q" and "91665."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


MEC Rebuilt ARA boxcar - Speedwitch Kit

Paul Bizier
 

I'm putting together one of Ted's MEC rebuilt boxcar kits.  The directions have pictures of the brake layout, but the instructions say that the layout is for LNE cars, and that the differences for MEC cars are noted on the photos.  Unfortunately, they don't appear to be noted on the instructions I have...

Does anyone have a layout for the brakes for the MEC cars?

Thanks in advance,
Paul Bizier


Re: SLSF 53395

Rich C
 

According to the RPI site:

  • In 1928-'29, the Frisco built more USRA-clones, in the 53100-53346 series (1928) and 53350-53647 series (1929), with Dreadnaught ends from Union Metal Products, Ajax hand brakes, and Bettendorf trucks. In 1949, the series was listed as 53100-53647 series, 491 cars.

Rich Christie


Re: Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

Eric Hansmann
 

What a great photo loaded with details. It looks like an expansion or another industry is rising in the background.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 12/29/2020 11:18 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/34173/rec/432

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Several other freight cars also pictured.

Description:

View of Griffin Wheel Company plant in Denver, Colorado; shows industrial, factory, and warehouse buildings, a brick smokestack, railroad cars, a horse-drawn freight wagon, and stacked machine parts.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Seeling Contact


Earlier on the year there was a photo on this list of a WP flat car with a load of Birchfield boilers.  A gentleman on the list alerted me to models of these boilers from a company called Multi Scale Digital.  We exchanged several emails and I am afraid I have lost the contact.

I have obtained a little more information and I hope that he might contact me.

Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Date: 12/29/20 8:33 AM (GMT-10:00)
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SLSF 53395

At first glance, this looks like a USRA gondola, but it isn't. Dreadnaught ends were developed later and the Frisco USRA coal gons were originally in the 85000-85999 series.

This car might be a USRA-derived clone that was built later in the 1920s with the dreadnaught ends, or an original car has been rebuilt with the dreadnaught ends and renumbered. I don't know enough about the Frisco freigh car fleet to make a definitive statement.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On 12/28/2020 6:21 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Looks to me that the photo may have been taken on account of the upper layers sliding a little too freely, especially the far stack.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Nelson
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:12 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] SLSF 53395


Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s.

https://portal-ccc.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/newberry/83/x05xj2r.jpg

Dave Nelson



Re: Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
I assume that the two stock cars at the left side of the image - Fort Worth & Denver 3072 and an unidentified AT&SF stock car - will be carrying their share of steel wheels shortly.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

What a great combination of cars and road names!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

 

Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/34173/rec/432

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Several other freight cars also pictured.

Description:

View of Griffin Wheel Company plant in Denver, Colorado; shows industrial, factory, and warehouse buildings, a brick smokestack, railroad cars, a horse-drawn freight wagon, and stacked machine parts.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: SLSF 53395

Eric Hansmann
 

At first glance, this looks like a USRA gondola, but it isn't. Dreadnaught ends were developed later and the Frisco USRA coal gons were originally in the 85000-85999 series.

This car might be a USRA-derived clone that was built later in the 1920s with the dreadnaught ends, or an original car has been rebuilt with the dreadnaught ends and renumbered. I don't know enough about the Frisco freigh car fleet to make a definitive statement.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On 12/28/2020 6:21 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Looks to me that the photo may have been taken on account of the upper layers sliding a little too freely, especially the far stack.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Nelson
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:12 PM
To: STMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SLSF 53395


Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s.

https://portal-ccc.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/newberry/83/x05xj2r.jpg

Dave Nelson



Re: Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

Schuyler Larrabee
 

What a great combination of cars and road names!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

 

Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/34173/rec/432

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Several other freight cars also pictured.

Description:

View of Griffin Wheel Company plant in Denver, Colorado; shows industrial, factory, and warehouse buildings, a brick smokestack, railroad cars, a horse-drawn freight wagon, and stacked machine parts.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Chicago, Rock Island & Texas Boxcar 150108/PRR Boxcar 95491 (Undated)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/34173/rec/432

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Several other freight cars also pictured.

Description:

View of Griffin Wheel Company plant in Denver, Colorado; shows industrial, factory, and warehouse buildings, a brick smokestack, railroad cars, a horse-drawn freight wagon, and stacked machine parts.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: SLSF 53395

mopacfirst
 

Changing the focus of this thread slightly.  First thing I noticed is that most or all of the stenciling on the sides was done on steel sheet attached to the wooden car side.  Presumably this was done because the paint would stay readable longer if applied to steel instead of wood.

Ron Merrick


Re: SLSF 53395

Guy Wilber
 

Dave Nelson wrote:

Large close up of loaded gondola, Chicago, late 40’s.”

The most glaring element of this load is the stakes.  They are laminated, each made up from what appears to be two 2” x 6” rough sawn boards.  The use of such stakes was not permissible until 1960.

The railroad has likely photographed the car to bolster their billing charges incurred for bringing the load into compliance.  The road which originally accepted the car is responsible for the cost of labor and materials.

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Priceless.  Thanks.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

 


Re: unusual models for sale on ebay

akerboomk
 

RE: Painting interior:

 

Dunk it in the paint, roll around till all surfaces covered, shake off the excess?

 

;-)

 

Kind of like the neighbor I had who painted his car with a roller…

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Steve and Barb Hile
 

A tight zoom yields the SSW marks.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 10:09 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

 

The Cotton Belt had some boxcars with these two-section ends. 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Eric Hansmann
 

The Cotton Belt had some boxcars with these two-section ends. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Dec 28, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

Jim Gates
 


Somebody 12252? Pretty sure the number is correct.

Jim Gates

On Monday, December 28, 2020, 09:49:10 PM CST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Boxcar With Vertical Rib End (1918)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/20944/rec/51

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

The number on the car's end appears to be 12252.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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