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Re: Photo: Lumber Transfer Between Standard Gauge & Narrow Gauge Cars (1949)

David Soderblom
 

The gantry is itself quite an antique, being wooden.  Note the outside brake beams on the narrow gauge car.




David Soderblom
Baltimore MD




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Re: Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Mont Switzer
 

I made ear corn loads and corn crib filler out of out of bird seed, painted yellow and glued to Styrofoam fillers.  We took a 2 week trip to FL and Cocoa Beach in January during which time a mouse family apparently house sat for us.  Upon our return we found that the mouse family had feasted on those bird seed loads, paint, glue and all.  A stock car converted to a corn crib had a hole chewed in it.  They ate an entire grain truck load and maybe the styrene sides.  I have yet to find those scratch built sides for the truck.  Fortunately the pot metal truck escaped any damage.  Pot metal must not have met the mouse family’s dietary needs.

 

Guess what I was picking up from the right of way and other locations that accommodate my (mandatory STMFC content) steam era freight cars  with tweezers?  Great way to foul a switch.

 

So, you might want to look for something a little less enticing.

 

Mont    

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Hutchison
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

 

There has been fairly recent discussion of sugar beets.  I would think the plants offer great opportunities for modeling of cars, unloading tracks, and other facilities.
I am wondering if anyone has attempted to model sugar beets as car loads? The closest I can think of might be Rice Krispies sealed and painted (now that we have finally gotten rid of our mouse problems) but I think even that would be out of scale?
rh


Re: Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Ray Hutchison
 

There has been fairly recent discussion of sugar beets.  I would think the plants offer great opportunities for modeling of cars, unloading tracks, and other facilities.
I am wondering if anyone has attempted to model sugar beets as car loads? The closest I can think of might be Rice Krispies sealed and painted (now that we have finally gotten rid of our mouse problems) but I think even that would be out of scale?
rh


Re: Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

Ken O'Brien
 

Brad,
Delving deeper into the Taber volume cited by Drew, the caption for the poultry car class L-1 says 50 cars were built in 1898 and 1899 in the Scranton car shops. These were scrapped in 1921.
Sides and ends were open slatted with no provision for a drover. A drovers car was used.

Ken O'Brien


Re: Two boxcars

gtws00
 

That is a fine looking pair of cars Rich. Lots of nice additions and modifications,
Thanks for sharing your work.
George Toman
Willow Springs, Illinois


Re: Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

earlyrail
 

I'll get the list started

June 1905 ORER
DL&W  series 4560 - 4699  36'  50 cars
Sou   series 44900 - 44919    36'  18 cars

Oct 1919 ORER
DL&W 4650 - 4699  27 cars
SOU   44875 - 44899 25 cars
          44900 - 44942  10 cars

Howard Garner


Re: Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

Steve SANDIFER
 

I have in my files the plans for a Southern Railroad Poultry Car dated 1906. It looks more like a stock car with screens, definitely not a LPTC clone. It is copyright Southern Railway Historical Association.

The May 1906 ORER says the Southern had 18 Poultry cars. The 1911 states 41 Southern Poultry cars. June 1917 lists 43. 1925 lists 24. 1940 lists none.

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

 

I have nothing, except Kristen’s note that states 1900 circa ORER’s do list some railroad owned poultry cars. The ORER’s would give you car numbers and dimensions. But as to what they looked like, I have no idea. I don’t know if the railroad owned cars were built Live Poultry design, some other poultry car design or to a railroad specified plan.

 

Doug Harding

wwwiowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brad Andonian
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

 

Good evening,

does anyone have images or car numbers ?   I believe both roads had a few.

thanks,
brad andonian 


Re: Two boxcars

Richard Remiarz
 

Thank you everyone for the nice comments on the two boxcars.  Finishing next is a Speedwitch NP 50’ boxcar.  By tomorrow morning the flat finish overcoat on the decals should be dry and weathering will commence.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 

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1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts

irv_thomae
 

I've been carefully studying the Ed Hawkins/Ted Culotta tabulation covering almost 93,000 AAR boxcars built between 1936 and 1947.  Having chosen long ago to model the time period from fall 1940 through summer 1941, and wanting only a few newly built cars on my back-country layout, I highlighted each group of cars built before 1940 in green, and each group built in 1940 in yellow.
  Doing that led to an interesting discovery about cars built with the standard 4-5 Dreadnaught ends:  The vast majority of those built before 1940 had square-cornered ends.  As of January of 1940, there was a dramatic transition to round-cornered ends, also known as "W corner-post."   Apart for the CN, which stayed with square corner posts through March of 1940, it appears that fewer than a dozen more cars were built with square corners from 1-40 onward, for even the smallest railroads.
  Rapid changes were not exactly common in prewar railroad engineering practice.  Does anyone happen to know why this transition, from square corner posts to the 'W' type, happened to quickly?   Was it driven by regulatory action, perhaps in response to safety issues?  Or were there dramatic savings either in weight or fabrication cost?
   And, did otherwise very similar cars with the two different corner post types show a consistent weight difference?
Thanks!
Irv


Re: Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Corey Bonsall
 

Mr. Sullivan,

I'm glad you enjoy your cars!  I think I saw one of those photos come across here of the UCR cars in log service, and it was very intriguing.  These cars and kits are definitely a labor of love, it would be great to see a photo of your GS gon in such service.

Corey


Re: Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

Drew M.
 

Brad,
   If you get a copy of Thomas Townsend Taber III's Lackawanna history series of three volumes the third and final volume has a series of equipment diagrams. One of the diagrams is for a poultry car and included is a photo of one such car. It has been a while since I looked at the information but I believe they were leased Live Stock Poultry cars - LPTX reporting marks.

Drew Marshall, Philly PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

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On Dec 30, 2020, at 19:46, Brad Andonian <brad@...> wrote:
Good evening,

does anyone have images or car numbers ?   I believe both roads had a few.

thanks,
brad andonian 


Re: Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

Douglas Harding
 

I have nothing, except Kristen’s note that states 1900 circa ORER’s do list some railroad owned poultry cars. The ORER’s would give you car numbers and dimensions. But as to what they looked like, I have no idea. I don’t know if the railroad owned cars were built Live Poultry design, some other poultry car design or to a railroad specified plan.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brad Andonian
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

 

Good evening,

does anyone have images or car numbers ?   I believe both roads had a few.

thanks,
brad andonian 


FRISCO USRA GONDOLA

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


The recent discussions of Frisco USRA gondolas plus my own efforts in gathering information don the Sunshine rebuilt frisco gondola prompted me to bring out and photograph one of the first series of Frisco gondolas.  This is a Precision Scale car that I did over thirty years ago.   Looking at it now I see that some lettering was missing such as the reweigh date and GB designation.  At least the car number is in the correct series.  I did not think that I had added any detail but I see that I had improved the brake rigging and maintained the split K brake arrangement.  I also added air hose brackets and a crude Carmer cut lever. The wood interior and exposed floor board ends deserve better treatment.

The car was finished from an article by Richard Hendrickson in which lettered the oppoisite side for a different railroad.  I find it rewarding to go back periodically and improve on work long finished.

Hope you enjoy:
\
Bill Pardie


Re: Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

George Corral
 

A 3-D printed set of these trucks without wheel sets is currently available on ebay,  Does anyone have experience with these or any other 3-D printed trucks?  Do they require inserts or bearings to function properly and consistently?

George Corral


Lackawanna & Southern poultry cars

Brad Andonian
 

Good evening,

does anyone have images or car numbers ?   I believe both roads had a few.

thanks,
brad andonian 


Re: Two boxcars

Richard Remiarz
 

Clark,

 

The CNW car was built based on the article in RPCyc Volume 1.  Now that I found a PS-1 underframe I will build another more modern version of the car, and won’t have to sand off the end panels on the roof this time. 

 

For the SP boxcar I was inspired by Bill Welch.  I didn’t take it to the level that Bill did with some of his “extreme modeling”, but I wanted it much more detailed than the typical plastic kit.  With the roof walks, brake wheels and bracket grabs offered by Kadee, the etched brass parts offered by Yarmouth and others, and other detail parts now available it is becoming much easier build older plastic kits to the level of newer resin kits or high-end plastic cars.

 

Now that I am retired and spending more time modeling, I am also volunteering and getting involved in new areas of the hobby.  I am the new coordinator/editor for the GNRHS Modelers Pages, and part of the GNRHS modeling committee.  I want to stay updated with the latest parts and techniques so that I can apply them to GN models and write them up for the Modelers Pages.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Clark Propst
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Two boxcars

 

Well done Rich! Tough to keep track of all those extra details  ; ))

 

Clark

 

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Re: Two boxcars

Scott Kremer
 

Very nice work and the photos are great as well.

Scott Kremer


Re: Two boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Well done Rich, two well built cars, 
Fenton very nice


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Well done Rich! Tough to keep track of all those extra details  ; ))

 

Clark

 

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Re: Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks for the clasp brakes term, Dennis. I knew it was something but the words weren’t there.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


Re: Two boxcars

Clark Propst
 

Well done Rich! Tough to keep track of all those extra details  ; ))

 

Clark

 

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