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Re: T-Section Trucks

Randy Hees
 

Of course when the T section trucks were introduced, roller bearings were effectively (yes available, but not used on freight cars due to perceived higher cost and conservative attitudes about technology, held by railroad officials, so not an option) as no one would specify solid bearing or other.    At the time there were just "Journal bearings", which were understood to be bronze, with babbitt lining.

Randy Hees


Re: Detailing for early tank cars

Jake Schaible
 

No shortage of options of "horribly overscaled" early tank cars.... might I suggest the Funaro & Camerlengo type 7 ACF kits with High Walk?

For HO detail parts, Jason over at Owl Mountain Models makes a useful assortment of M.C.B. and Frangible tank car dome vents, and various parties make quality brake parts.    

 

But alas - I share Charlie's pain.

I'd love to see N scale get, say a "High Walk" 10K gal ACF type 7 (like SD&AE MW 1021 which still stands to this day - in the wild, trapped but not forgotten - in Jacumba, CA). 

Still, there are a few obscure kits for tank car diversity for N scale guys.  Not a "high walk", but Dick Billings of Fine N Scale makes a resin cast of an early high dome tank for use on his 35' truss rod flat cars.  It's a bit generic, but I'm working on a pair now as "Pease" rebuilt as CS-12A cars for SP service, with hope to try using decals designed by Tony Thompson, now produced by Tichy.  These FNR-2104 castings - if with a new dome - might even be a better stand ins for early AOX tank cars used privately, but apparently saw use in SP & Santa Fe (Tk-C & D) service (see Tony's SPFC vol 5 p 215). 

Speaking of Santa Fe in N scale, while not truss rod, you should also be aware of the wonderful early AT&SF Tk-G to Tk-J kits by Dirk Jan Blikkendaal in the Netherlands (https://atsfnscalemodels.com/projects/tankcars%20class%20tk-g%2C%20h%2C%20i%2C%20j.html)


Re: NP 5418

Clark Propst
 

Good looking car Rich!

 

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Re: NP 5418

Eric Lombard
 

Nice models, Rich!

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:53 PM Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Rich 

It looks really good.


Paul Doggett.     England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 3 Jan 2021, at 18:48, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:



Yesterday I completed NP 5418, a 50’ single sheath auto boxcar built from a Speedwitch kit.  I adding Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets to the TMW Dalman trucks, Kadee #178 coupers, and HiTech Details 6038 air hoses.  The car was painted with TruColor TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown.

 

Weathering was done by coloring random boards with Prismacolor 30% warm grey, terra cotta, light umber, Tuscan red, and sienna brown colored pencils.  Pan Pastel Permanent Red Extra Dark was used to tone down the lettering and colored pencils, followed by Pan Pastel black for weathering.  Speedwitch chalk mark decals were used, along with Polly Scale Grimy Black on the wheel faces and Polly Scale Rust on the couplers and trucks.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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Re: T-Section Trucks

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello friends,

what's with the Owl Mountain Models flat car truck?:

http://www.owlmtmodels.com/2000-series/OMM_f-50-in-stock.jpg

I do not have that model, but others on this list have built them. Hopefully the one or the other will say some words. At the picture these trucks look fine (to me), but I don't think they are available separately.

Many greetings

Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953


Re: T-Section Trucks

Tony Thompson
 

Jake Schaible wrote:

 For clarity sake, you mean friction bearing Bettendorf T-section Trucks … 

    Unless you're a roller-bearing salesman, you probably meant "solid bearing" . . .

<vbg>

Tony Thompson




Re: T-Section Trucks

Jake Schaible
 

 

For clarity sake, you mean friction bearing Bettendorf T-section Trucks ... made in HO not only by Kadee and Walthers (as has been mentioned), but once also by Red Caboose. MTH also used nice Bettendorf T Section trucks for use on various cars in HO - including used erroneously on it's PFE R-40-2.  If you have this car, you may be able to swap.  Finally, I recall hearing that Brian at Tahoe Model Works was working on producing such at one time, but don't see it was ever released.  

Speaking of Tahoe, not there are of course, other "T-Section" type trucks, most notably Andrews, which he did do in HO as a limited edition for the Northern Pacific group:

http://store.nprha.org/ho-scale-nprha-special-edition-40-ton-t-section-andrews-trucks-semi-scale-wheels/

 

By the way, if any manufacturer is listening, Bettendorf T section trucks have LONG been on high on the wish list for us N scale modelers .... never been made in N.  Detailed plans for such live at CSRM and I'd buy good ones (ex. injection molded POM) by the "truck load" in N, as they are the correct truck for the very popular Atlas PFE R-30-13 many other as built SP freight cars of the era.

 

 

 


Re: P&LE USRA rebuild

Rich C
 

Great looking build, Brian. Your work motivates me to get mine started. Mine has been sitting for a long period too.

Rich Christie


Re: NP 5418

James Brewer
 

Nice build Rich; excellent subtle weathering.

Jim Brewer


Re: Detailing for early tank cars

Richard Townsend
 

The C&S used CB&Q and FW&D high walkway tank cars to bring fuel up from Texas. There often was one parked at the C&S enginehouse in Fort Collins for fueling the oil-burning steamers and, later, the diesels based there.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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All-
I recall seeing such CB&Q cars in (probably) company service during the late 1950s and maybe into the early 1960s.
Don’t recall the number series but it should be able to come up with them from the “Ownership, Age & Condition” rosters.
I model in N Scale and so far we don’t have any such cars to letter up.
Charlie Vlk
 
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RE: High-platform tank cars
Note that anyone modeling a WW-II period “oil” tank car train could use a couple.
They weren’t many, but they did stand out in the pictures I have seen.
 
 

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Ken Akerboom


Re: P&LE USRA rebuild

Bob Chapman
 

Brian --
 
Once again, proving that persistence pays! Modeling looks great, and definitely a good start for a Happy New Year.
 
Bob Chapman
 


Re: T-Section Trucks

Kenneth Montero
 

Walthers # 920-2007 (sprung trucks).
 
Kadee also makes the T-section truck with solid sides (no working springs) - # 572 and 724. The also make a leaf spring solid side truck - # 581 and 1581.
 
Red Caboose made a truck similar to the solid side Kadee truck, but I don't see it for sale on the InterMountain site.
 
Ken Montero
 
 
 

On 01/03/2021 1:27 PM radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:
 
 
Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Photo: Condemned UP Gondola 96604 (1934)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Condemned UP Gondola 96604 (1934)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/61279/rec/128

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Fox trucks. Note "Hold" car tag.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: N&W Gondola 101078 (1950)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Gondola 101078 (1950)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/67494/rec/163

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Description:

Gondola 101078. Photographed: near Bluefield, W. Va., June 25, 1950.

Built 1930.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: UTLX Three-Compartment Tank Car 59762 (1935)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: UTLX Three-Compartment Tank Car 59762 (1935)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/67212/rec/6

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Built 1927.

Inflammable placard.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NP 5418

Tony Thompson
 

Very good-looking car, Rich. I have always liked 50-ft. single-sheath cars, especially ones with lots of diagonal braces, like this one.

Tony Thompson




Re: T-Section Trucks

Tony Thompson
 

I agree, the old Kadde truck springs look poor. 

   Remember, a view block with a small rectangle of black paper or plastic behind the springs hugely improves the look of the Kadee spring area.

Tony Thompson




Re: NP 5418

Paul Doggett
 

Rich 

It looks really good.


Paul Doggett.     England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 3 Jan 2021, at 18:48, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:



Yesterday I completed NP 5418, a 50’ single sheath auto boxcar built from a Speedwitch kit.  I adding Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets to the TMW Dalman trucks, Kadee #178 coupers, and HiTech Details 6038 air hoses.  The car was painted with TruColor TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown.

 

Weathering was done by coloring random boards with Prismacolor 30% warm grey, terra cotta, light umber, Tuscan red, and sienna brown colored pencils.  Pan Pastel Permanent Red Extra Dark was used to tone down the lettering and colored pencils, followed by Pan Pastel black for weathering.  Speedwitch chalk mark decals were used, along with Polly Scale Grimy Black on the wheel faces and Polly Scale Rust on the couplers and trucks.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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NP 5418

Richard Remiarz
 

Yesterday I completed NP 5418, a 50’ single sheath auto boxcar built from a Speedwitch kit.  I adding Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets to the TMW Dalman trucks, Kadee #178 coupers, and HiTech Details 6038 air hoses.  The car was painted with TruColor TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown.

 

Weathering was done by coloring random boards with Prismacolor 30% warm grey, terra cotta, light umber, Tuscan red, and sienna brown colored pencils.  Pan Pastel Permanent Red Extra Dark was used to tone down the lettering and colored pencils, followed by Pan Pastel black for weathering.  Speedwitch chalk mark decals were used, along with Polly Scale Grimy Black on the wheel faces and Polly Scale Rust on the couplers and trucks.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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Re: T-Section Trucks

Allan Smith
 


Walthers 933-1009 in the 2014 catalog. I have two sets of old Walthers 933-1003. 


Al Smith Sonora CA

On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 10:37:46 AM PST, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:


Kadee now has these in their HGC solid side frames.

 

#1572 HO Scale Bettendorf T-Section Self Centering Trucks with 33 Ribbed Back Code 88 Semi-Scale Wheels - HGC [1572] - $10.55 : Kadee, The Coupler People

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of radiodial868
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] T-Section Trucks

 

Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA

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