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Re: P&LE USRA rebuild

Bob Chapman
 

Brian --
 
Once again, proving that persistence pays! Modeling looks great, and definitely a good start for a Happy New Year.
 
Bob Chapman
 


Re: T-Section Trucks

Kenneth Montero
 

Walthers # 920-2007 (sprung trucks).
 
Kadee also makes the T-section truck with solid sides (no working springs) - # 572 and 724. The also make a leaf spring solid side truck - # 581 and 1581.
 
Red Caboose made a truck similar to the solid side Kadee truck, but I don't see it for sale on the InterMountain site.
 
Ken Montero
 
 
 

On 01/03/2021 1:27 PM radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:
 
 
Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Photo: Condemned UP Gondola 96604 (1934)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Condemned UP Gondola 96604 (1934)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/61279/rec/128

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Fox trucks. Note "Hold" car tag.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: N&W Gondola 101078 (1950)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Gondola 101078 (1950)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/67494/rec/163

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Description:

Gondola 101078. Photographed: near Bluefield, W. Va., June 25, 1950.

Built 1930.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: UTLX Three-Compartment Tank Car 59762 (1935)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: UTLX Three-Compartment Tank Car 59762 (1935)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/67212/rec/6

Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image.

Built 1927.

Inflammable placard.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NP 5418

Tony Thompson
 

Very good-looking car, Rich. I have always liked 50-ft. single-sheath cars, especially ones with lots of diagonal braces, like this one.

Tony Thompson




Re: T-Section Trucks

Tony Thompson
 

I agree, the old Kadde truck springs look poor. 

   Remember, a view block with a small rectangle of black paper or plastic behind the springs hugely improves the look of the Kadee spring area.

Tony Thompson




Re: NP 5418

Paul Doggett
 

Rich 

It looks really good.


Paul Doggett.     England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 3 Jan 2021, at 18:48, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:



Yesterday I completed NP 5418, a 50’ single sheath auto boxcar built from a Speedwitch kit.  I adding Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets to the TMW Dalman trucks, Kadee #178 coupers, and HiTech Details 6038 air hoses.  The car was painted with TruColor TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown.

 

Weathering was done by coloring random boards with Prismacolor 30% warm grey, terra cotta, light umber, Tuscan red, and sienna brown colored pencils.  Pan Pastel Permanent Red Extra Dark was used to tone down the lettering and colored pencils, followed by Pan Pastel black for weathering.  Speedwitch chalk mark decals were used, along with Polly Scale Grimy Black on the wheel faces and Polly Scale Rust on the couplers and trucks.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

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NP 5418

Richard Remiarz
 

Yesterday I completed NP 5418, a 50’ single sheath auto boxcar built from a Speedwitch kit.  I adding Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets to the TMW Dalman trucks, Kadee #178 coupers, and HiTech Details 6038 air hoses.  The car was painted with TruColor TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown.

 

Weathering was done by coloring random boards with Prismacolor 30% warm grey, terra cotta, light umber, Tuscan red, and sienna brown colored pencils.  Pan Pastel Permanent Red Extra Dark was used to tone down the lettering and colored pencils, followed by Pan Pastel black for weathering.  Speedwitch chalk mark decals were used, along with Polly Scale Grimy Black on the wheel faces and Polly Scale Rust on the couplers and trucks.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: T-Section Trucks

Allan Smith
 


Walthers 933-1009 in the 2014 catalog. I have two sets of old Walthers 933-1003. 


Al Smith Sonora CA

On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 10:37:46 AM PST, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:


Kadee now has these in their HGC solid side frames.

 

#1572 HO Scale Bettendorf T-Section Self Centering Trucks with 33 Ribbed Back Code 88 Semi-Scale Wheels - HGC [1572] - $10.55 : Kadee, The Coupler People

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of radiodial868
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] T-Section Trucks

 

Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: T-Section Trucks

Steve and Barb Hile
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of radiodial868
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] T-Section Trucks

 

Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: T-Section Trucks

Nelson Moyer
 

Try Walthers 920-2007.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of radiodial868
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] T-Section Trucks

 

Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: T-Section Trucks

Steve Summers
 

I agree, the old Kadde truck springs look poor. Kadee makes a HGC (high gravity compound) version of this truck where the springs are solid, # 571 or 1571 with the semi scale wheels.  They look much better and are heavier.  Not perfect by any stretch but far better than the originals.


On Jan 3, 2021, at 1:27 PM, radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:

Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA

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T-Section Trucks

radiodial868
 

Anyone know of a HO source for the T-section trucks? I know of the Kadee version, but those flimsy springs and operation are a non-starter (plus look just silly)
The T-Section trucks look unique and are a nice alternative to the typical castframe trucks and really define a PFE reefer.
Thx,

--
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Detailing for early tank cars

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

I recall seeing such CB&Q cars in (probably) company service during the late 1950s and maybe into the early 1960s.

Don’t recall the number series but it should be able to come up with them from the “Ownership, Age & Condition” rosters.

I model in N Scale and so far we don’t have any such cars to letter up.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Detailing for early tank cars

 

RE: High-platform tank cars

Note that anyone modeling a WW-II period “oil” tank car train could use a couple.

They weren’t many, but they did stand out in the pictures I have seen.

 

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)

akerboomk
 

RE: sugar beets to 3D printer.

 

What I would do…

In 3D CAD, make one or 2 individual beets (probably a “profile” spline and a revolve would be enough?)

Then make a bunch scaled up/down (possibly non-uniform scale to get long-thin and short-fat ones as well as big & small)

Then make a “pile” (just a surface to use as a base) to fit your car (maybe 2 or 3 for “variety”)

Then (not sure how the “free” programs do this) start assembling various size beet models to the base. (this would be the hardest part)

“Fill in” underneath them (3D printing software may do this for you?)

Print away...

 

You may be able to scale the model (non-uniformly) to fit other cars.

 

 

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Detailing for early tank cars

akerboomk
 

RE: High-platform tank cars

Note that anyone modeling a WW-II period “oil” tank car train could use a couple.

They weren’t many, but they did stand out in the pictures I have seen.

 

 


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: P&LE USRA rebuild

Clark Propst
 

I made a mistake writing my email address it’s cepropst@q’com

Clark Propst

 

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Re: Detailing for early tank cars

Eric Hansmann
 

Ray,

I suspect this would need to be a labor of love. While some prototypes lasted into the 1940s, they were not common. Modelers with an earlier focus, like me and several others, could use more high walkway tank cars. Admittedly, we are a pretty small market for this type of detail product.

What would be useful is a metal etching production house that follows the Shapeways model. But again, it's a small market for even those details. Just my thoughts.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 01/03/2021 6:04 AM Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:


Given all of the very good recent photographs of tank cars, I am wondering about the availability of detailing kits for these?  The usual models of these leave some things to be desired...

Ray Hutchison 
Green Bay WI


photo search [was Re: Photo: D&RGW Gondola (1952)]

Andy Carlson
 

Tim,
This was not my picture--I simply copied and cropped it from the earlier post, focusing more on the narrow gauge gondola(s).

On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 7:51:48 AM PST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Andy and all - I fed your photo of the men in the narrow guage gondola to two
different image search engines -

GOOGLE and YANDEX

The Google search was a complete failure. Google has no understanding of what is shown.
The "similar" photos it offered were goofy.

The Yandex search was amazing! It found all kinds of photos of gondolas and open
cars with various types of cargoes - It KNEW that the photo was of a railroad car,
of an open car, with people - and something else - inside the car. The offered match
photos spanned the 1930's to the present and most were black & white but some color
matches were found too!




On 1/2/2021 1:36 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
For someone wishing to duplicate some elements of this scene in N scale, look at this one-piece narrow gauge high side gondola. My late friend made the pattern and I cast it it in resin.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

RR-2013
On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 10:07:43 AM PST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

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