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Nice images of NYC, P&LE, and PMcK&Y hoppers...
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Nice images of NYC, P&LE, and PMcK&Y hoppers in 1938...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Southern railway flat cars
George Courtney
A modeler in your area named Don McDougall might know. But Jim King is a Southern expert.
George Courtney
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi List Members,
I especially like the two views of the railroad car GE 25002, a trussrod center-hole flat car from series 25002-25007 - see links below: http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=p16003coll2&CISOPTR=25042&action=2&DMSCALE=100&DMWIDTH=7000&DMHEIGHT=600081 My Dec 1930 ORER listing for GEX series 25002-25007: open center length..40ft 00in length of
opening...9ft 03in capacity..100,000
pounds
Enjoy! Claus Schlund
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Eric Hansmann
From the looks of the freight cars in these images, it seems the Pennsy spit-shine crew wasn’t called into action on that G22 gondola. The NYC spit-shine crews sure kept busy on some great looking flats and gondolas.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 2:46 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Bob, all;
I just love this stuff.
So, originated on the NYC at GE’s Schenectady, NY plant, bound for Long Beach, CA to populate their new steam plant for local power supply?
What a GREAT assortment of NYC’s unique flat car fleet. And that GE well! A smorgasbord of regular, well, semi-well, and HD flats, supplemented by a PRR G22, and RDG gon.
Thanks, Bob, SO much for sharing!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars Two 1924 photos from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25042/rec/856 These photos can be enlarged quite a bit. Two views of a special train transporting components to a steam plant. Related photos: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25046/rec/872 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25048/rec/882 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25049/rec/886 Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
ROGER HINMAN
The Boston & Albany cars in the third set appear to be carrying transformers most likely originating at GE’s Pittsfield, MA plant
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Roger Hinman
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Re: Southern railway flat cars
hubert mask
For a matter of information I sell all three paint scheme decals. In black, Roman, and 70s. Maskislanddecals.com.
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Thank you. Hubert mask
On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Southern railway flat cars
Jim King
Most likely late 1957 when there was a systemwide change in fonts and colors. That’s when heralds were removed, the Roman font changed to an early version of Gothic/Block, the green/imitation Aluminum scheme on engines was changed to “Tuxedo” and open top cars, including flats, went from black to freight car red/brown (which varied over the years). Black-painted gons were still running around in the early 70s.
Jim King http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 861248
Eric Hansmann
Nice photo, Bob! Thanks for sharing. The placard on the NYC gondola looks like it reads MANIFEST.
The PL GS looks like it has a load of coupler drawbar castings. Notice this gondola is so weathered that the weigh data under the reporting marks is gone. The road name and car number seem to have had some chalk applied.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 1:36 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondola 861248
Photo: PRR Gondola 861248 An undated photo from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/21111/rec/1782 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. The car is lettered Pennsylvania Lines and the car initials are PL. Partial views of other cars appear. Can anyone make out the placard on the NYC gondola? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photo: Erie Flat Car With Cable Load
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Bob and List Members,
Thanks Bob for the cool images.
The image referenced below in Bob's email can be seen at full
resolution (and without the extraneous 'tools') at the link below...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Bob, all;
I just love this stuff.
So, originated on the NYC at GE’s Schenectady, NY plant, bound for Long Beach, CA to populate their new steam plant for local power supply?
What a GREAT assortment of NYC’s unique flat car fleet. And that GE well! A smorgasbord of regular, well, semi-well, and HD flats, supplemented by a PRR G22, and RDG gon.
Thanks, Bob, SO much for sharing!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 2:38 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars Two 1924 photos from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25042/rec/856 These photos can be enlarged quite a bit. Two views of a special train transporting components to a steam plant. Related photos: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25046/rec/872 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25048/rec/882 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25049/rec/886 Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Richard Townsend
What a train for lovers of open loads! Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2021 11:37 am Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Two 1924 photos from the Huntington Library:
These photos can be enlarged quite a bit.
Two views of a special train transporting components to a steam plant.
Related photos:
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Photos: PRR Depressed Center Flat Car 435495
Photos: PRR Depressed Center Flat Car 435495 Four 1928 photos from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/24197/rec/629 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/24194/rec/614 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/24192/rec/604 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/24196/rec/626 These photos can be enlarged quite a bit. There are some identifiable boxcars in the third link. I believe these are all the same car. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Erie Flat Car With Cable Load
Photo: Erie Flat Car With Cable Load An 1931 photo from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/26909/rec/710 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars
Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars Two 1924 photos from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25042/rec/856 These photos can be enlarged quite a bit. Two views of a special train transporting components to a steam plant. Related photos: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25046/rec/872 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25048/rec/882 https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25049/rec/886 Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: PRR Gondola 861248
Photo: PRR Gondola 861248 An undated photo from the Huntington Library: https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/21111/rec/1782 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. The car is lettered Pennsylvania Lines and the car initials are PL. Partial views of other cars appear. Can anyone make out the placard on the NYC gondola? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Southern railway flat cars
Paul Doggett
Hi
When did the Southern Railway change their flat car colour from black to red ? Many thanks Paul Doggett England 🏴
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Re: Discarded sign...
Schuyler Larrabee
Thanks, Ken, for posting this link. Quite a bit of interesting information for railfans living in the area. The map also shows the long-lost Miller’s river (now in a culvert and nearly invisible unless you know JUST where to look for it. I’m surprised to see the round house labeled as “Auto truck st’ge” as I think most of that round house was still in use as such in 1935 (copyright date in small print beneath the graphic scale at the bottom).
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:55 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Discarded sign...
To beat this to death, the area is seen on this Sanborn map: https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3764cm.g03701193401/?sp=26
Photographer is standing toward left side of map, picture taken looking right. The road with the crossing gates in the picture is the “road” with “EAST” text (leading to left side of [what used to be a] roundhouse) Gantry crane shown.
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Re: Discarded sign...
akerboomk
To beat this to death, the area is seen on this Sanborn map: https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3764cm.g03701193401/?sp=26
Photographer is standing toward left side of map, picture taken looking right. The road with the crossing gates in the picture is the “road” with “EAST” text (leading to left side of [what used to be a] roundhouse) Gantry crane shown.
-- Ken Akerboom
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Re: Discarded sign...
Dennis Storzek
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 07:59 PM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Of course, we are likely all aware of what happened when the ERIE got that large class of Russian Decapods.The Frisco had them too, and one ended up at the Illinois Railway Museum, where it runs on weekends during the summer. I was well acquainted with the gentleman, Dave Shore, who was the "messenger" (attendant) when it was moved to the museum. Dave related a story where, on learning the train was to pull into a yard before the Decapod was to be switched out, asking the conductor if there were any self guarding frogs in the yard. "No" was the response. Dave said about a minute later there was a loud BANG and the engine looked like it jumped up in the air. About a minute later it did it again. Dave pulled the air. Turns out the whole ladder was self guarding frogs, and the wide driver tires had actually broken the guard flanges off the two frogs it ran through. The train sat there until a switcher came in behind it and gingerly pulled the engine back out to the main and took it somewhere where there weren't any self guarding frogs. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Discarded sign...
Schuyler Larrabee
Of course, we are likely all aware of what happened when the ERIE got that large class of Russian Decapods.
The gauge problem, narrowing the engines from 5’ gauge to American Standard, a mere 3½” difference, was done by applying new tires with a wide tread, moving the flanges inwards 1¾” on each side. Worked real slick . . . until they encountered a self-guarding frog. Resulted in a very rough ride, as the tread had to rise up over that hump . . .
The ERIE Decapods hauled lots of FREIGHT CARS. 😊
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:16 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Discarded sign...
David,
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