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Re: Southern railway flat cars

A&Y Dave in MD
 

The question does not have a precise answer because the change would have had to occur over time.  When did Southern executives decide to change the color?  About 1953-4.  When did the last of Southern flat cars with black disappear off the rails?  Probably not till after the merger with the N&W in 1982 (Kinkead book shows black Southern freight cars in Roman lettering in the 70's). New built cars after 1960 at least are going to be Southern freight car red.  Photos are your best friend.
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David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

Richard Brennan
 

At 01:00 PM 1/15/2021, brianleppert@... wrote:
The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY 140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car.. So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?
Sure it can...
A quick shop change to 70-ton trucks...because an important shipper has a LARGE load: Voila!

SP Freight Cars Vol 3, p 220 lists F-70-1 as a single car: SP 49679...
p221 'The "missing' 400th car was the experimental F-70-1, car no 49679.'

Photo on 4-8-1937 as SP 43595
https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30745/rec/693
Two days later, 4-10-1937, with SAME load... as SP 49679
https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30879


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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Gondolas & Flat Cars

lrkdbn
 

I wonder if it might have sometimes been that, faced with a large high value shipment like this power plant machinery that the RR might overhaul and paint cars just for that shipment,rather than just grab the first car off the yard track. This would account for the clean appearance of many of the cars in this set of pictures- if they did do this, it would be just the sort of practice that would die off in the Depression and war years
Larry King


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

 

Oops, listing for one 70t car,  49679, listed in the 7-39 ORER.

In the 7-37 ORER,  49679 is listed as a 50t F-50-14 car, the last in that # series.

Dan Smith


ADMIN: Steam-Era Freight Cars ONLY (was: Getting paid on Ebay)

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Folks,

 

               Ebay and their financial policies are OFF TOPIC for RealSTMFC.  Please have your discussions off-list.

 

Thanks,

 

-Jeff Aley

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

mel perry
 

pete:
use plastic, there's a seperate entry
;-)


On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 1:36 PM Peter Hall <petehall6369@...> wrote:
New subject, but since a lot of transactions for steam era freight cars are made on ebay, probably by all of us, this might be important:

Ebay announced today that they are going to change the pay process - now, payments will go directly to your bank, not to your PayPal account: no more PayPal processing fees.  That sounded good until I read further - ebay wants your bank account information.

In light of recent events, does that concern anyone?

Thanks
Pete

On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Gene Semon <mopac1@...>
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:45 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Getting paid on Ebay

 

Are you sure this isn't a scam for getting your bank account information? I've heard nothing like what you said from ebay.

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Hall <petehall6369@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2021 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Getting paid on Ebay

New subject, but since a lot of transactions for steam era freight cars are made on ebay, probably by all of us, this might be important:

 

Ebay announced today that they are going to change the pay process - now, payments will go directly to your bank, not to your PayPal account: no more PayPal processing fees.  That sounded good until I read further - ebay wants your bank account information.

 

In light of recent events, does that concern anyone?

 

Thanks

Pete



On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

 

The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

 


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locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Richard Townsend
 

Are you sure this isn't a scam for getting your bank account information? I've heard nothing like what you said from ebay.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Hall <petehall6369@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2021 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Getting paid on Ebay

New subject, but since a lot of transactions for steam era freight cars are made on ebay, probably by all of us, this might be important:

Ebay announced today that they are going to change the pay process - now, payments will go directly to your bank, not to your PayPal account: no more PayPal processing fees.  That sounded good until I read further - ebay wants your bank account information.

In light of recent events, does that concern anyone?

Thanks
Pete

On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

 

There are no 70t,  1400000 lbs capacity flats listed in either the 7-37 or 7-39 ORER's for SP.

Tony may need to chime in here but I think SP got it's first 70T flats in 1940, if memory serves and I don't have to rush to find Tony's book.

Dan Smith


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

 

From the 7-37 ORER

FM  flat all steel   43191 to 43690                100000 lbs. capacity         497 cars
                                     note PPP                 120000 lbs. capacity             2 cars         43386     43595
         There are 2 other notes listing changes in capacity - both from 80000 lbs to 100000 lbs. and from different # series.

From the 7-39 ORER

FM  flat all steel  43191 to 43690                100000 lbs. capacity         495 cars
        There are no notes for special capacity flat cars listed in 7-39 ORER for this # series.

I'm sorry but I don't have any ORER's between these. There may have been a second capacity change on the 2 PPP note cars from 7-37 and a 10-37 or there abouts ORER
might show if that is the case.

Dan Smith


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Charles Happel
 

In the worst case, I am looking at having it deposited to a debit card account, such as Kroger.

Chuck Happel

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.

Muhammad Ali


On Friday, January 15, 2021, 05:09:20 PM EST, Brian Shumaker <brian.shumaker@...> wrote:


Having just dumped a batch of unneeded locos on EBay and having to suffer 10% in fees plus the PayPal fees I’m just about done selling on the platform. For EBay to default to PayPal for purchases, it seems strange to bypass them on payments. I’m going to start looking for another auction site. Ebid? Worthpoint? Anyone with some insight on the others?
Brian Shumaker


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

brianleppert@att.net
 

I agree with Garth and Bruce.
The leaf-sprung trucks look like they were once under a steam locomotive tender.  Someone at SP must have determined the F-50-12 underframe could handle the transformer's weight.  But why not just use a 70-ton flat car?  Length too long?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

James Brewer
 

I have bought and sold a few things here:  https://groups.io/g/HOswap

No fees, etc., but you are on your own as far as any problems, etc.  I  have not had any problems with anything I purchased or any sales that I have made.

Jim Brewer


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Brian Shumaker
 

Having just dumped a batch of unneeded locos on EBay and having to suffer 10% in fees plus the PayPal fees I’m just about done selling on the platform. For EBay to default to PayPal for purchases, it seems strange to bypass them on payments. I’m going to start looking for another auction site. Ebid? Worthpoint? Anyone with some insight on the others?
Brian Shumaker


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

Bruce Smith
 

Garth, Folks,

Photo taken 4/8/1937. Reweigh 3/37. That supports a reweight immediately or nearly before loading this transformer. 😉

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:58 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load
 
Brian,

The number puts it in the F-50-12 series. I suspect it was a special conversion, maybe just for this movement and it was later returned to general service. Otherwise, why it was not renumbered or reclassed, I can't say.

This looks like a job for Tony to explain.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:00 PM brianleppert@... <brianleppert@...> wrote:
The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car 43595 With Transformer Load

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Brian,

The number puts it in the F-50-12 series. I suspect it was a special conversion, maybe just for this movement and it was later returned to general service. Otherwise, why it was not renumbered or reclassed, I can't say.

This looks like a job for Tony to explain.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:00 PM brianleppert@... <brianleppert@...> wrote:
The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Kenneth Montero
 

I forgot to sign the response.
 
Ken Montero
 
 

On 01/15/2021 4:56 PM Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
 
 
Remedy, in part:
 
Set up a separate bank account that you use only for Ebay transactions.
On 01/15/2021 4:35 PM Peter Hall <petehall6369@...> wrote:
 
 
New subject, but since a lot of transactions for steam era freight cars are made on ebay, probably by all of us, this might be important:
 
Ebay announced today that they are going to change the pay process - now, payments will go directly to your bank, not to your PayPal account: no more PayPal processing fees.  That sounded good until I read further - ebay wants your bank account information.
 
In light of recent events, does that concern anyone?

Thanks
Pete

On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Kenneth Montero
 

Remedy, in part:
 
Set up a separate bank account that you use only for Ebay transactions.

On 01/15/2021 4:35 PM Peter Hall <petehall6369@...> wrote:
 
 
New subject, but since a lot of transactions for steam era freight cars are made on ebay, probably by all of us, this might be important:
 
Ebay announced today that they are going to change the pay process - now, payments will go directly to your bank, not to your PayPal account: no more PayPal processing fees.  That sounded good until I read further - ebay wants your bank account information.
 
In light of recent events, does that concern anyone?

Thanks
Pete

On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Photo: Monon Flat Car 20385 With Transformer Load

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Andy and Claus,

If you blow this picture up, you will notice the narrow gauge car has traction couplers and fenders. Yes, it is likely a LARY car.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 2:52 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi Bob, Andy, and List members,
 
There is a third image showing this ongoing transfer and both flat cars...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:09 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Monon Flat Car 20385 With Transformer Load

Transferring to a narrow gauge flat car under wire--has to be an LARy (Los Angeles Railway-3'6" gauge) destined transformer.....

On Friday, January 15, 2021, 10:03:34 AM PST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Monon Flat Car 20385 With Transformer Load

A 1922 photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/20359/rec/198

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Unloading the load:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/20361/rec/199

My guess the receiving flat car is on Pacific Electric track and the load is destined for a PE substation. Only speculation on my part.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


locked Re: Getting paid on Ebay

Pierre Oliver
 

How about a great big no way Ebay?

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/15/21 4:35 p.m., Peter Hall wrote:

New subject, but since a lot of transactions for steam era freight cars are made on ebay, probably by all of us, this might be important:

Ebay announced today that they are going to change the pay process - now, payments will go directly to your bank, not to your PayPal account: no more PayPal processing fees.  That sounded good until I read further - ebay wants your bank account information.

In light of recent events, does that concern anyone?

Thanks
Pete

On Jan 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:

The flat car is clearly stenciled above the left hand truck "CAPY  140000", making it a 70 ton capacity car..  So it can't be a F-50-12 class flat car, can it?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

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