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Re: Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

Marty McGuirk
 

I’d actually put Bills FGE clinic on my steam freight cars blog a few years ago (with Bills permission of course).
Such a large document in the blog was problematic, so I substituted a link to the document:


Hope this helps,
Marty McGuirk




On Jan 16, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:



John, in his presentations Bill typically passed out a small slip of paper with the link to a Dropbox account where one could download his entire PowerPoint. He started doing this instead of printing a multi-page (ie expensive) handout. Anyone who attended the clinic was invited to download from the Dropbox account. His intention was to share what he found/learned. To my knowledge there are no restrictions. Yes there is a book in the works. And Bill made arrangements and left instructions for its completion.

 

So feel free to share.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of golden1014 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:21 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

 

Gentlemen,

I have copies of Bill's Wood FGE Reefers and Steel FGE Reefers PowerPoint presentations.  I believe they date back to around 2014.

I'd be happy to share them with the group unless there is a compelling reason not to, such as copyright issues or book preparation, etc.

Maybe Tony Thompson and/or Doug Harding can advise offline?

John Golden
golden1014@...


Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30874/rec/432

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Description:

Magunden Switching Station - Wider shot of Southern Pacific, 2-6-2 steam Locomotive #1781 pulling Transformers and rail-skids for Magunden.

From previous discussions of the flatcars with the transformers, some speculated that the transformers were shipped without oil to reduce the weight on the flatcars. The presence of the tanks cars in this train makes me wonder if this true and the tank cars carried oil for the transformers.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25045/rec/868

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

T-Section trucks?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: HO Truck ID?

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Thanks, Bob.  Just needed where to look.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 9:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO Truck ID?

 

Jim van Gaasbeek: Can you please provide a link to “Richard Hendrickson's treatise on HO Trucks”?

Follow the links here:

Freight Car Trucks 1900-1960 (groups.io) 

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Photo: SP Gondola 53923 (1924)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Gondola 53923 (1924)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/24427/rec/1317

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Description:

General Store, Alhambra - Warehouse & Shops under construction - [unloading sand and aggregate from rail-car gondolas with crane.]

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Reading Depressed Center Flat Car 99048 With Gun Barrel

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Reading Depressed Center Flat Car 99048 With Gun Barrel

A photo from the WarshipPorn [sic] Website:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/kyy5is/1500x_1070_battleship_gun_in_bethlehem/

Click on the photo twice to enlarge it to maximum.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: HO Truck ID?

Bob Chaparro
 

Jim van Gaasbeek: Can you please provide a link to “Richard Hendrickson's treatise on HO Trucks”?

Follow the links here:

Freight Car Trucks 1900-1960 (groups.io) 

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Bachmann HO Scale Boiler

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jan 16, 2021, at 19:15, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@gmail.com> wrote:

One end might resemble a single furnace Scotch Marine but with the furnace not coming out the other end, I cannot see it being a good anything at all. Not that I have seen every possible boiler but it does not look good to me.
Good catch. The tubes coming out beside and below the furnace are also suspect. Then there's the length - Scotch boilers don't seem to be that long compared to their diameter. I recommend a web search of the vast horde of engineering texts available describing stationary and marine boilers and either kit bashing or scratch building something.

I have some books from Model and Allied Publications[0], publisher of Model Engineer Magazine, describing the design and construction of working miniatures

[0] now Argus Press, Hemel Hempstead, Herts., UK - Martin Evans and K. N. Harris come to mind as authors
Model Locomotive and Marine Boilers, a copy available for $28 US from Abe books via bookfinder.com, searching with Martin Evans in the Author field and Boilers in the title field
--
"He sold his earthright for a pot of message."
F. Feghoot


Last listings for awhile

Clark Propst
 


Re: Resin Kits that need a new home

Nelson Moyer
 

 

Pete, when you open a message the sender’s email address is in the header as shown below. All you have to do is double click the sender’s email address and a popup window appears with an option to send a private email.

 

main@RealSTMFC.groups.io on behalf of; Peter Reinhold pennsymodeler@...

 

That works with Windows 7 and Outlook. YMMV.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Reinhold
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Resin Kits that need a new home

 

Sorry to send this to the group but can't figure out how to contact Ross off-list. Ross would like the #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40 if not spoken for.

Pete Reinhold

pparaaus@...

On 1/17/2021 8:58 AM, Ross Dando via groups.io wrote:

I know we are not all meeting in Cocoa Beach this month. So in that spirit I am trying to rehome some kits that align with the timeline of the list. I moved to 1/48 four years ago and these will never be built and appreciated unless one or more of you takes them and builds them.
Prices marked and do not include shipping. Prefer US sales but can have my arm twisted to do otherwise but costs will be your responsibility.

Owl Mountain 

#2003 40’ Flat (3)

#3005 Narrow Lumber Kit (3)

$65 per set plus shipping

$180 for all plus shipping

 

Sunshine

Load #F.3 70’ Deck Bridge Girder  $25

Transformer Load $25

Kit #F10 Ship Plate Load $25 (2 available)

Kit #F9 Crawler Load $35

Kit #38.4 SP B-50-15 no end door $40

Kit #53.6 PRR GSh 38’ Gon $40

Kit #41.3 Milw 39-40 Rib Box $40

Kit #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40

Kit #66.3 ATSF Rebuilt Flat w Bulkheads $40

 

Detail Associates

Kit #220 GS Gon steel side $15

 

Rail Shop Inc

CB-101 Carbon Black Car late scheme $25

CB-102 Carbon Black Car early scheme $25

 

Northern Specific Models

NP 1949 52’ Flat Car 64000-64195 series $35

Thanks
Ross Dando
Meridian, Idaho


Re: Resin Kits that need a new home

Peter Reinhold
 

Sorry to send this to the group but can't figure out how to contact Ross off-list. Ross would like the #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40 if not spoken for.

Pete Reinhold

pparaaus@...

On 1/17/2021 8:58 AM, Ross Dando via groups.io wrote:

I know we are not all meeting in Cocoa Beach this month. So in that spirit I am trying to rehome some kits that align with the timeline of the list. I moved to 1/48 four years ago and these will never be built and appreciated unless one or more of you takes them and builds them.
Prices marked and do not include shipping. Prefer US sales but can have my arm twisted to do otherwise but costs will be your responsibility.

Owl Mountain 

#2003 40’ Flat (3)

#3005 Narrow Lumber Kit (3)

$65 per set plus shipping

$180 for all plus shipping

 

Sunshine

Load #F.3 70’ Deck Bridge Girder  $25

Transformer Load $25

Kit #F10 Ship Plate Load $25 (2 available)

Kit #F9 Crawler Load $35

Kit #38.4 SP B-50-15 no end door $40

Kit #53.6 PRR GSh 38’ Gon $40

Kit #41.3 Milw 39-40 Rib Box $40

Kit #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40

Kit #66.3 ATSF Rebuilt Flat w Bulkheads $40

 

Detail Associates

Kit #220 GS Gon steel side $15

 

Rail Shop Inc

CB-101 Carbon Black Car late scheme $25

CB-102 Carbon Black Car early scheme $25

 

Northern Specific Models

NP 1949 52’ Flat Car 64000-64195 series $35

Thanks
Ross Dando
Meridian, Idaho


Resin Kits that need a new home

Ross Dando
 

I know we are not all meeting in Cocoa Beach this month. So in that spirit I am trying to rehome some kits that align with the timeline of the list. I moved to 1/48 four years ago and these will never be built and appreciated unless one or more of you takes them and builds them.
Prices marked and do not include shipping. Prefer US sales but can have my arm twisted to do otherwise but costs will be your responsibility.

Owl Mountain 

#2003 40’ Flat (3)

#3005 Narrow Lumber Kit (3)

$65 per set plus shipping

$180 for all plus shipping

 

Sunshine

Load #F.3 70’ Deck Bridge Girder  $25

Transformer Load $25

Kit #F10 Ship Plate Load $25 (2 available)

Kit #F9 Crawler Load $35

Kit #38.4 SP B-50-15 no end door $40

Kit #53.6 PRR GSh 38’ Gon $40

Kit #41.3 Milw 39-40 Rib Box $40

Kit #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40

Kit #66.3 ATSF Rebuilt Flat w Bulkheads $40

 

Detail Associates

Kit #220 GS Gon steel side $15

 

Rail Shop Inc

CB-101 Carbon Black Car late scheme $25

CB-102 Carbon Black Car early scheme $25

 

Northern Specific Models

NP 1949 52’ Flat Car 64000-64195 series $35

Thanks
Ross Dando
Meridian, Idaho


Re: Sunshine vinegar car

Paul Doggett
 

Stephen 

You have built a very nice model of an unusual car.

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 17 Jan 2021, at 04:35, Stephen Gardiner <sjgardiner@...> wrote:



I built one of the kit years ago as we have a similar vinegar tank in the Toronto Railway Museum collection.

The kit was a beast to build, but it eventually became a model I am proud of, and your friends build looks equally impressive and I hope they are proud of their build! As said, it is most definitely not an easy kit to complete.

A couple of pictures of mine:
https://flic.kr/p/r7G5jS
https://flic.kr/p/qdbPRF

Cheers,

Stephen Gardiner
Toronto, ON


Re: NP 10000 Series Boxcars by Rapido

Dean ONeill
 

Rob,
Not sure if this will help, but I did do a skim of the "Write Up Books" from the 1930s for South Tacoma for boxcar service, or accident repairs. The table below shows the car serviced, year, and that it was "Car Painted Complete". Given that these cars were built in the mid 1920s, indicates that for at lease some cars, repaints were happening relatively soon. But that might have only been due to accidents, not regular maintenance. 

Dean ONeill
Redmond WA


South Tacoma Shops - Write Up Books
Date Car Comment
6/2/1930 12965 Car Painted Complete
3/26/1930 10965 Car Painted Complete
3/26/1930 13221 Car Painted Complete
5/19/1930 12324 Car Painted and Stenciled Complete
3/22/1940 13969 Roof painted with Texaco Car Cement
3/22/1940 12935 Roof painted with Texaco Car Cement
3/22/1940 10214 Roof painted with Texaco Car Cement
5/21/1941 10867 Roof coated with Car Cement, Car painted Complete


Re: Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

Douglas Harding
 

John, in his presentations Bill typically passed out a small slip of paper with the link to a Dropbox account where one could download his entire PowerPoint. He started doing this instead of printing a multi-page (ie expensive) handout. Anyone who attended the clinic was invited to download from the Dropbox account. His intention was to share what he found/learned. To my knowledge there are no restrictions. Yes there is a book in the works. And Bill made arrangements and left instructions for its completion.

 

So feel free to share.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of golden1014 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:21 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

 

Gentlemen,

I have copies of Bill's Wood FGE Reefers and Steel FGE Reefers PowerPoint presentations.  I believe they date back to around 2014.

I'd be happy to share them with the group unless there is a compelling reason not to, such as copyright issues or book preparation, etc.

Maybe Tony Thompson and/or Doug Harding can advise offline?

John Golden
golden1014@...


Re: Photo: SP Flat Car(s) Transformer(s)

Robert Bowdidge
 

I'm guessing these are GE transformers, manufactured in Oakland.

General Electric had a transformer plant in Oakland, CA starting in 1924.  (5441 East 14th/ International Blvd).

See "Project Background information" here.  
https://www.oaklandca.gov/documents/ge-site-remediation-and-redevelopment-project-draft-environmental-impact-report-deir-5441-international-blvd-case-file-number-er18013
 

LA's 

Westinghouse Electric had a plant in Emeryville, CA from 1924, but it was apparently only building insulators, and later repaired transformers.
https://www.epa.gov/pcbs/pacific-southwest-pcb-success-stories-redevelopment-northern-california

Westinghouse did build transformers in Sunnyvale, CA, but only starting around 1946 when they bought Hendy Iron Works.  I did a quick search and couldn't find other mentions of Westinghouse manufacturing transformers in California.

https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/cursites/csitinfo.cfm?id=0900956

Robert


Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

golden1014
 

Gentlemen,

I have copies of Bill's Wood FGE Reefers and Steel FGE Reefers PowerPoint presentations.  I believe they date back to around 2014.

I'd be happy to share them with the group unless there is a compelling reason not to, such as copyright issues or book preparation, etc.

Maybe Tony Thompson and/or Doug Harding can advise offline?

John Golden
golden1014@...


Re: Sunshine vinegar car

Stephen Gardiner
 

I built one of the kit years ago as we have a similar vinegar tank in the Toronto Railway Museum collection.

The kit was a beast to build, but it eventually became a model I am proud of, and your friends build looks equally impressive and I hope they are proud of their build! As said, it is most definitely not an easy kit to complete.

A couple of pictures of mine:
https://flic.kr/p/r7G5jS
https://flic.kr/p/qdbPRF

Cheers,

Stephen Gardiner
Toronto, ON


Re: Bachmann HO Scale Boiler

Charles Peck
 

One end might resemble a single furnace Scotch Marine but with the furnace not coming out the other end, I cannot see it being a good anything at all. Not that I have seen every possible boiler but it does not look good to me.
Chuck Peck

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 9:59 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Bachmann HO Scale Boiler

Does anyone know the prototype for the Bachmann boiler? Does it approximate any known boiler type?

Ted Culotta discussed this boiler on his Prototype Railroad Topics blog and included two photos:

http://prototopics.blogspot.com/2016/02/prr-f29-load-update.html

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Bachmann HO Scale Boiler

Bob Chaparro
 

Bachmann HO Scale Boiler

Does anyone know the prototype for the Bachmann boiler? Does it approximate any known boiler type?

Ted Culotta discussed this boiler on his Prototype Railroad Topics blog and included two photos:

http://prototopics.blogspot.com/2016/02/prr-f29-load-update.html

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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