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Re: Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

Richard Townsend
 

In the gondola. Notice how they block the view of the framing immediately behind them in the gondola.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

The two horizontal silver colored tanks shown right behind the tender are in the gondola or beyond the gondola?  I can't decide.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)
A photo from the Huntington Library:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
Description:
Magunden Switching Station - Wider shot of Southern Pacific, 2-6-2 steam Locomotive #1781 pulling Transformers and rail-skids for Magunden.
From previous discussions of the flatcars with the transformers, some speculated that the transformers were shipped without oil to reduce the weight on the flatcars. The presence of the tanks cars in this train makes me wonder if this true and the tank cars carried oil for the transformers.
Opinions?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

ROGER HINMAN
 

Looking at the car diagrams, the lead car’s deck measures 50 inches above the top of rail; and the following car’s deck measures 38 3/8 inch above the rail, both coupler center lines are the standard 34 1/2 inches. The loading effects the numbers somewhat but a foot difference is the norm.

Roger Hinman


On Jan 17, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Mike Williams via groups.io <j3a5405@...> wrote:

How will those two cars remained coupled?  The draft gear must be quite out of alignment!


Re: Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

ROGER HINMAN
 

You’re probably correct; both cars were built in 1912 when T-section trucks were popular

Roger Hinman

On Jan 17, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)
A photo from the Huntington Library:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
T-Section trucks?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Discarded sign...

Tim O'Connor
 


this is the location of the B&M's "Somerville" yard - now a large MBTA facility.

there is next to no carload traffic into Boston or its immediate suburbs anymore


On 1/12/2021 5:53 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
We sometime see images of large loads on flat cars that are accompanied by signs describing the item and letting the world know who the manufacturer was.
 
Ever wonder what happens to those signs after the car is unloaded?
 
Have a look at the lower right corner of this image...
 
 
The sign appears to say "BETHLEHEM STEEL", and possibly "Fabricated Steel" on the line below.
 
Other nice details to notice are the bumping post, with a pair of re-inforcement rails between the running rails, and the one rail on concrete foundation probably for a movable overhead crane. I don't know the Bostan area railroading scene very well, but there appears to be a substantial freight house and/or team tracks in the background
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


South Georgia Railway boxcar #1601

Steven D Johnson
 

I found this Whitcomb Locomotives ad in the April-July 1935 issue of BALDWIN LOCOMOTIVES magazine.  The South Georgia Ry. boxcar really caught my attention.  I don’t recall ever seeing a photo of a freight car from that road.   Anyone have other photos or information about this car or its sisters? Or any other South Georgia Ry. freight cars? 

 

Here are some web resources about the company:

 

https://hawkinsrails.net/shortlines/sg/sg.html

 

http://www.taplines.net/southgeorgia/sgry1.htm

 

I think Bill Welch would have loved this example from one of the lesser-known “y’all roads.” 

 

 

Steve Johnson

Nashville, TN 

 

 


Re: Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

 

One of the previous photos showed them in the gondola. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jan 17, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:


The two horizontal silver colored tanks shown right behind the tender are in the gondola or beyond the gondola?  I can't decide.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30874/rec/432

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Description:

Magunden Switching Station - Wider shot of Southern Pacific, 2-6-2 steam Locomotive #1781 pulling Transformers and rail-skids for Magunden.

From previous discussions of the flatcars with the transformers, some speculated that the transformers were shipped without oil to reduce the weight on the flatcars. The presence of the tanks cars in this train makes me wonder if this true and the tank cars carried oil for the transformers.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

Mike Williams
 

How will those two cars remained coupled?  The draft gear must be quite out of alignment!


Re: Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

Patrick Wade
 

The two horizontal silver colored tanks shown right behind the tender are in the gondola or beyond the gondola?  I can't decide.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:07 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30874/rec/432

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Description:

Magunden Switching Station - Wider shot of Southern Pacific, 2-6-2 steam Locomotive #1781 pulling Transformers and rail-skids for Magunden.

From previous discussions of the flatcars with the transformers, some speculated that the transformers were shipped without oil to reduce the weight on the flatcars. The presence of the tanks cars in this train makes me wonder if this true and the tank cars carried oil for the transformers.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

Marty McGuirk
 

I’d actually put Bills FGE clinic on my steam freight cars blog a few years ago (with Bills permission of course).
Such a large document in the blog was problematic, so I substituted a link to the document:


Hope this helps,
Marty McGuirk




On Jan 16, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:



John, in his presentations Bill typically passed out a small slip of paper with the link to a Dropbox account where one could download his entire PowerPoint. He started doing this instead of printing a multi-page (ie expensive) handout. Anyone who attended the clinic was invited to download from the Dropbox account. His intention was to share what he found/learned. To my knowledge there are no restrictions. Yes there is a book in the works. And Bill made arrangements and left instructions for its completion.

 

So feel free to share.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of golden1014 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:21 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bill Welch's FGE Presentations

 

Gentlemen,

I have copies of Bill's Wood FGE Reefers and Steel FGE Reefers PowerPoint presentations.  I believe they date back to around 2014.

I'd be happy to share them with the group unless there is a compelling reason not to, such as copyright issues or book preparation, etc.

Maybe Tony Thompson and/or Doug Harding can advise offline?

John Golden
golden1014@...


Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Transformer Train (1937)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30874/rec/432

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Description:

Magunden Switching Station - Wider shot of Southern Pacific, 2-6-2 steam Locomotive #1781 pulling Transformers and rail-skids for Magunden.

From previous discussions of the flatcars with the transformers, some speculated that the transformers were shipped without oil to reduce the weight on the flatcars. The presence of the tanks cars in this train makes me wonder if this true and the tank cars carried oil for the transformers.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NYC Flat Car S-498123 With Condenser Parts (1924)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/25045/rec/868

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

T-Section trucks?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: HO Truck ID?

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Thanks, Bob.  Just needed where to look.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 9:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO Truck ID?

 

Jim van Gaasbeek: Can you please provide a link to “Richard Hendrickson's treatise on HO Trucks”?

Follow the links here:

Freight Car Trucks 1900-1960 (groups.io) 

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Photo: SP Gondola 53923 (1924)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Gondola 53923 (1924)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/24427/rec/1317

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Description:

General Store, Alhambra - Warehouse & Shops under construction - [unloading sand and aggregate from rail-car gondolas with crane.]

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Reading Depressed Center Flat Car 99048 With Gun Barrel

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Reading Depressed Center Flat Car 99048 With Gun Barrel

A photo from the WarshipPorn [sic] Website:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/kyy5is/1500x_1070_battleship_gun_in_bethlehem/

Click on the photo twice to enlarge it to maximum.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: HO Truck ID?

Bob Chaparro
 

Jim van Gaasbeek: Can you please provide a link to “Richard Hendrickson's treatise on HO Trucks”?

Follow the links here:

Freight Car Trucks 1900-1960 (groups.io) 

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Bachmann HO Scale Boiler

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jan 16, 2021, at 19:15, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@gmail.com> wrote:

One end might resemble a single furnace Scotch Marine but with the furnace not coming out the other end, I cannot see it being a good anything at all. Not that I have seen every possible boiler but it does not look good to me.
Good catch. The tubes coming out beside and below the furnace are also suspect. Then there's the length - Scotch boilers don't seem to be that long compared to their diameter. I recommend a web search of the vast horde of engineering texts available describing stationary and marine boilers and either kit bashing or scratch building something.

I have some books from Model and Allied Publications[0], publisher of Model Engineer Magazine, describing the design and construction of working miniatures

[0] now Argus Press, Hemel Hempstead, Herts., UK - Martin Evans and K. N. Harris come to mind as authors
Model Locomotive and Marine Boilers, a copy available for $28 US from Abe books via bookfinder.com, searching with Martin Evans in the Author field and Boilers in the title field
--
"He sold his earthright for a pot of message."
F. Feghoot


Last listings for awhile

Clark Propst
 


Re: Resin Kits that need a new home

Nelson Moyer
 

 

Pete, when you open a message the sender’s email address is in the header as shown below. All you have to do is double click the sender’s email address and a popup window appears with an option to send a private email.

 

main@RealSTMFC.groups.io on behalf of; Peter Reinhold pennsymodeler@...

 

That works with Windows 7 and Outlook. YMMV.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Reinhold
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Resin Kits that need a new home

 

Sorry to send this to the group but can't figure out how to contact Ross off-list. Ross would like the #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40 if not spoken for.

Pete Reinhold

pparaaus@...

On 1/17/2021 8:58 AM, Ross Dando via groups.io wrote:

I know we are not all meeting in Cocoa Beach this month. So in that spirit I am trying to rehome some kits that align with the timeline of the list. I moved to 1/48 four years ago and these will never be built and appreciated unless one or more of you takes them and builds them.
Prices marked and do not include shipping. Prefer US sales but can have my arm twisted to do otherwise but costs will be your responsibility.

Owl Mountain 

#2003 40’ Flat (3)

#3005 Narrow Lumber Kit (3)

$65 per set plus shipping

$180 for all plus shipping

 

Sunshine

Load #F.3 70’ Deck Bridge Girder  $25

Transformer Load $25

Kit #F10 Ship Plate Load $25 (2 available)

Kit #F9 Crawler Load $35

Kit #38.4 SP B-50-15 no end door $40

Kit #53.6 PRR GSh 38’ Gon $40

Kit #41.3 Milw 39-40 Rib Box $40

Kit #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40

Kit #66.3 ATSF Rebuilt Flat w Bulkheads $40

 

Detail Associates

Kit #220 GS Gon steel side $15

 

Rail Shop Inc

CB-101 Carbon Black Car late scheme $25

CB-102 Carbon Black Car early scheme $25

 

Northern Specific Models

NP 1949 52’ Flat Car 64000-64195 series $35

Thanks
Ross Dando
Meridian, Idaho


Re: Resin Kits that need a new home

Peter Reinhold
 

Sorry to send this to the group but can't figure out how to contact Ross off-list. Ross would like the #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40 if not spoken for.

Pete Reinhold

pparaaus@...

On 1/17/2021 8:58 AM, Ross Dando via groups.io wrote:

I know we are not all meeting in Cocoa Beach this month. So in that spirit I am trying to rehome some kits that align with the timeline of the list. I moved to 1/48 four years ago and these will never be built and appreciated unless one or more of you takes them and builds them.
Prices marked and do not include shipping. Prefer US sales but can have my arm twisted to do otherwise but costs will be your responsibility.

Owl Mountain 

#2003 40’ Flat (3)

#3005 Narrow Lumber Kit (3)

$65 per set plus shipping

$180 for all plus shipping

 

Sunshine

Load #F.3 70’ Deck Bridge Girder  $25

Transformer Load $25

Kit #F10 Ship Plate Load $25 (2 available)

Kit #F9 Crawler Load $35

Kit #38.4 SP B-50-15 no end door $40

Kit #53.6 PRR GSh 38’ Gon $40

Kit #41.3 Milw 39-40 Rib Box $40

Kit #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40

Kit #66.3 ATSF Rebuilt Flat w Bulkheads $40

 

Detail Associates

Kit #220 GS Gon steel side $15

 

Rail Shop Inc

CB-101 Carbon Black Car late scheme $25

CB-102 Carbon Black Car early scheme $25

 

Northern Specific Models

NP 1949 52’ Flat Car 64000-64195 series $35

Thanks
Ross Dando
Meridian, Idaho


Resin Kits that need a new home

Ross Dando
 

I know we are not all meeting in Cocoa Beach this month. So in that spirit I am trying to rehome some kits that align with the timeline of the list. I moved to 1/48 four years ago and these will never be built and appreciated unless one or more of you takes them and builds them.
Prices marked and do not include shipping. Prefer US sales but can have my arm twisted to do otherwise but costs will be your responsibility.

Owl Mountain 

#2003 40’ Flat (3)

#3005 Narrow Lumber Kit (3)

$65 per set plus shipping

$180 for all plus shipping

 

Sunshine

Load #F.3 70’ Deck Bridge Girder  $25

Transformer Load $25

Kit #F10 Ship Plate Load $25 (2 available)

Kit #F9 Crawler Load $35

Kit #38.4 SP B-50-15 no end door $40

Kit #53.6 PRR GSh 38’ Gon $40

Kit #41.3 Milw 39-40 Rib Box $40

Kit #22.5 CB&Q XA-14 D 50’ Bomber Box $40

Kit #66.3 ATSF Rebuilt Flat w Bulkheads $40

 

Detail Associates

Kit #220 GS Gon steel side $15

 

Rail Shop Inc

CB-101 Carbon Black Car late scheme $25

CB-102 Carbon Black Car early scheme $25

 

Northern Specific Models

NP 1949 52’ Flat Car 64000-64195 series $35

Thanks
Ross Dando
Meridian, Idaho

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