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Re: Can someone id this model?

O Fenton Wells
 

I still think it is a Southern car.  
Just say'in
Fenton

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 3:53 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Another possible series is ERIE 97400-97499..The attached photo isn’t included in that range.  Again, the diagram’s roof looks nothing like a rectangular panel roof.

 

Most ERIE end door cars were 50’.  When I saw Pierre’s “40 foot” I thought “I don’t think so, but . . .”

 

Further search in ERIE materials, from me, will have to wait ‘til tomorrow.  Busy tonight.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can someone id this model?

 

Erie? Just a wild guess.



On Jan 31, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:



This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

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Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Can someone id this model?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Another possible series is ERIE 97400-97499..The attached photo isn’t included in that range.  Again, the diagram’s roof looks nothing like a rectangular panel roof.

 

Most ERIE end door cars were 50’.  When I saw Pierre’s “40 foot” I thought “I don’t think so, but . . .”

 

Further search in ERIE materials, from me, will have to wait ‘til tomorrow.  Busy tonight.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can someone id this model?

 

Erie? Just a wild guess.



On Jan 31, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:



This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

<edmjjcokfndlibdl.jpg>

-- 
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Can someone id this model?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Well, not a BAD guess, Rich, close but no cigar, so far anyway  I have a diagram of ERIE 97250-97399, a 40 tone double door box with end doors, but the roof drawing doesn’t look like a rectangular panel roof.  Of course, equipment diagram books are not to be taken completely seriously about things like roofs . . . The roof is not identified in what might be called the “agate type.”

 

I’ll have to see if I have a photo of this series, but I rather doubt it.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can someone id this model?

 

Erie? Just a wild guess.



On Jan 31, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:



This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

<edmjjcokfndlibdl.jpg>

-- 
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Can someone id this model?

Richard Townsend
 

Erie? Just a wild guess.


On Jan 31, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:



This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

<edmjjcokfndlibdl.jpg>

-- 
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Can someone id this model?

Pierre Oliver
 

This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

-- 
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Rail Model Journal Modeling PFE Reefers

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

I’m afraid that I do not have an answer to RJ’s question on a follow up article.  His post , however, does call attention to the treasure trove of articles that can be found in both the Rail Model Journal
amd Model Railroading magazines that were published about the same time.  Richard Hendrickson was a m major contributor to both magazines.  I ddid not count the number of articles in the magazine
In RJ’s post but it far exceeds anything that we have today.

In my downtime I will pull out a stack of these magazines along with Mainline Modeler.  It’s amazing how many articles I have forgotten that apply to my current projects.  It has been about fifteen years 
since Mainline Modeler ceased publication and nothing has come along to replace these three magazines.

Bill Pardie

On Jan 30, 2021, at 3:55 PM, radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:

Was Richard Hendrickson ever able to do the followup article on modeling rebuilt PFE Reefers in the Rail Model Journal?  Here is the initial article on the pre-rebuilt versions with a closing teaser saying that there would be another article, but no luck in finding it so far.
 http://magazine.trainlife.com/rmj_1997_4/
(page 46)
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Wilson Reefers HO

Brian Carlson
 

It doesn’t show up on the current F&C site so I don’t know. Heck, it may have been from when F&C was making kits for sunshine. I wasn’t into resin then, as a teen it was tough enough to afford shake the box kits. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jan 31, 2021, at 1:02 PM, radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:

How about the older Funaro & Camerlengo Resin Kit #3603 "37' Wood Meat Reefer Wilson Car Lines"? They show up on eBay from time to time.
It says it is accurate, but then it is from the era when close enough was good enough. Decals look nice. I have a kit, is there any drawings to compare against?
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Wilson Reefers HO

radiodial868
 

How about the older Funaro & Camerlengo Resin Kit #3603 "37' Wood Meat Reefer Wilson Car Lines"? They show up on eBay from time to time.
It says it is accurate, but then it is from the era when close enough was good enough. Decals look nice. I have a kit, is there any drawings to compare against?
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Wilson Reefers HO

Armand Premo
 

Also missing are ERDX Reefers.Armand Premo

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 1:35 AM nyc3001 . <nyc3001@...> wrote:
WCLX apparently built cars to its own designs. I don't think that there are any accurate WCLX models besides the Sunshine kits, but it may be possible to kitbash one. afaik the Rapido reefers are not accurate for WCLX out of the box as they represent a GA design.

Accurate kits or models of WCLX, CRLX, NADX, Swift, and Armour meat reefers are sorely needed in HO imo. Almost every 1940s and 1950s consist with reefers that I've checked contained at least a few examples of the above cars.

-Phil 


Re: Wilson Reefers HO

nyc3001 .
 

WCLX apparently built cars to its own designs. I don't think that there are any accurate WCLX models besides the Sunshine kits, but it may be possible to kitbash one. afaik the Rapido reefers are not accurate for WCLX out of the box as they represent a GA design.

Accurate kits or models of WCLX, CRLX, NADX, Swift, and Armour meat reefers are sorely needed in HO imo. Almost every 1940s and 1950s consist with reefers that I've checked contained at least a few examples of the above cars.

-Phil 


Wilson Reefers HO

Brian Carlson
 

Other than older sunshine kits are there any accurate Wilson refrigerator cars In HO scale? I’m finding they were delivered to Warren Pennsylvania quite often.

Brian J. Carlson


Rail Model Journal Modeling PFE Reefers

radiodial868
 

Was Richard Hendrickson ever able to do the followup article on modeling rebuilt PFE Reefers in the Rail Model Journal?  Here is the initial article on the pre-rebuilt versions with a closing teaser saying that there would be another article, but no luck in finding it so far.
 http://magazine.trainlife.com/rmj_1997_4/
(page 46)
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

Rich C
 

Group, It is listed in the 1965 ORER.

Rich Christie

On Saturday, January 30, 2021, 12:50:21 PM CST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



it's a photo from the 1960's or later so why do you think it would be in a 1955 roster?


On 1/30/2021 12:24 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

A photo from the Library of Congress:

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/md0748.photos.086026p/resource/

Larger versions available.

Description:

"Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, Mount Clare Shops, South side of Pratt Street between Carey & Poppleton Streets, Baltimore, Independent City, MD."

Appears to be the scrap line.

I don't see this car listed in the 1955 Equipment Register.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

Tim O'Connor
 


it's a photo from the 1960's or later so why do you think it would be in a 1955 roster?


On 1/30/2021 12:24 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:

Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

A photo from the Library of Congress:

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/md0748.photos.086026p/resource/

Larger versions available.

Description:

"Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, Mount Clare Shops, South side of Pratt Street between Carey & Poppleton Streets, Baltimore, Independent City, MD."

Appears to be the scrap line.

I don't see this car listed in the 1955 Equipment Register.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

Bob Chaparro
 
Edited

Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2776

Car possibly built in 1914.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Comments On C&BT Boxcars

Bob Chaparro
 

Comments On C&BT Boxcars

From Jim Sacco in Pittsburgh:

"I was one of the people who thought it was a good idea for Dick S. to add molded-in details to his boxcars. I know a lot of folks were upset, but it became clear to me after a while, that Dick did not have the ability to produce kits with finer details. He didn't have the patience to deal with such fine parts. That's why I thought he would stand a better chance with an Accurail style kit that actually went together well compared to a kit with poorly fitting details.

I've known Dennis Lippert forever and I know a good bit too about the history of C&BT because Dick was molding my first City Classics kits at the time. And because I designed his logo and did artwork for some of the early cars."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

A photo from the Library of Congress:

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/md0748.photos.086026p/resource/

Larger versions available.

Description:

"Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, Mount Clare Shops, South side of Pratt Street between Carey & Poppleton Streets, Baltimore, Independent City, MD."

Appears to be the scrap line.

I don't see this car listed in the 1955 Equipment Register.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Fw: Potomac Yard book

mel perry
 

hi ted:
do you do paypal.f&f? also how much
shipping to 94128
thanks
mel perry


On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, 4:11 PM Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Here is a book that covers a freight yard and the freight cars it moved, in very good detail. Book #2 covers the 20th century of Potomac Yard, a very critical yard between northern and southern railroads. The book sub title is "the history of the most important direct interchange railroad hump yard on the east coast "Chapter one starts at 1900 and then each subsequent chapter seems to cover about a 10 year time span. The largest chapter is #7 covering the post war and 1950's period, is 200 pages long. The hard cover book is a healthy 804 pages, and is largely written by the railroaders working in the yard. The publisher is the RF&P Historical Society.

For all those 804 pages is a reasonable price of $69.95 plus shipping. contact me off list.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

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Re: Fw: Potomac Yard book

Ted Schnepf
 

Hi Mel,

Book one covers the early history of the railroads in the area and how they came to form the RF&P in the 1800's.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

On Friday, January 29, 2021, 09:10:26 PM CST, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


out of curiosity, what does book #1 cover?
thanks
mel perry



On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, 4:11 PM Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Here is a book that covers a freight yard and the freight cars it moved, in very good detail. Book #2 covers the 20th century of Potomac Yard, a very critical yard between northern and southern railroads. The book sub title is "the history of the most important direct interchange railroad hump yard on the east coast "Chapter one starts at 1900 and then each subsequent chapter seems to cover about a 10 year time span. The largest chapter is #7 covering the post war and 1950's period, is 200 pages long. The hard cover book is a healthy 804 pages, and is largely written by the railroaders working in the yard. The publisher is the RF&P Historical Society.

For all those 804 pages is a reasonable price of $69.95 plus shipping. contact me off list.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: ted schnepf <railsunl@...>
To: ted schnepf <railsunl@...>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021, 10:07:33 AM CST
Subject: Potomac Yard book





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Re: Fw: Potomac Yard book

mel perry
 

out of curiosity, what does book #1 cover?
thanks
mel perry



On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, 4:11 PM Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Here is a book that covers a freight yard and the freight cars it moved, in very good detail. Book #2 covers the 20th century of Potomac Yard, a very critical yard between northern and southern railroads. The book sub title is "the history of the most important direct interchange railroad hump yard on the east coast "Chapter one starts at 1900 and then each subsequent chapter seems to cover about a 10 year time span. The largest chapter is #7 covering the post war and 1950's period, is 200 pages long. The hard cover book is a healthy 804 pages, and is largely written by the railroaders working in the yard. The publisher is the RF&P Historical Society.

For all those 804 pages is a reasonable price of $69.95 plus shipping. contact me off list.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: ted schnepf <railsunl@...>
To: ted schnepf <railsunl@...>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021, 10:07:33 AM CST
Subject: Potomac Yard book





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