Re: Can someone id this model?
mopacfirst
This model is famous in its own right, as I recall, as one of the first models made in resin. As an O scale model, it was a good show piece, and I recall it being exhibited at Naperville in fairly recent years. Don't recall who owned it at that time. In that sense, it didn't really need a prototype, as it was intended to show off the dramatic things that could be done with resin casting. Sorry I can't be much help with the actual question.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Can someone id this model?
Rich C
Good catch, Tim. Marc Simpson of Sylvan has produced those cars Rich Christie
On Sunday, January 31, 2021, 07:05:19 PM CST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
CP? I dunno really - there were a number of 40 foot double door auto cars built just before WWII and then just after. On 1/31/2021 2:32 PM, Pierre Oliver wrote: This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards... -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com Attachments: -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Can someone id this model?
CP? I dunno really - there were a number of 40 foot double door auto cars built just before WWII and then just after.
On 1/31/2021 2:32 PM, Pierre Oliver wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Can someone id this model?
Rich C
I will have to agree with Fenton on the model, being Southern. One of my fellow club cronies and I were discussing Erie 40' double door boxcars for well over a month. The only end door 40' cars had radial roofs, which is inclusive to the 97400-97499. Additionally they had a few series of 40' double door types with Viking roofs. The ends on these varied from Buckeye, Inverse Buckeye and AAR standard, but no end doors. They even had a series of shop modified "raised" roof cars, but again no end doors. Rich Christie
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Re: Can someone id this model?
I still think it is a Southern car. Just say'in Fenton
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 3:53 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Can someone id this model?
Schuyler Larrabee
Another possible series is ERIE 97400-97499..The attached photo isn’t included in that range. Again, the diagram’s roof looks nothing like a rectangular panel roof.
Most ERIE end door cars were 50’. When I saw Pierre’s “40 foot” I thought “I don’t think so, but . . .”
Further search in ERIE materials, from me, will have to wait ‘til tomorrow. Busy tonight.
Schuyler
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Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:02 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can someone id this model?
Erie? Just a wild guess.
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Re: Can someone id this model?
Schuyler Larrabee
Well, not a BAD guess, Rich, close but no cigar, so far anyway I have a diagram of ERIE 97250-97399, a 40 tone double door box with end doors, but the roof drawing doesn’t look like a rectangular panel roof. Of course, equipment diagram books are not to be taken completely seriously about things like roofs . . . The roof is not identified in what might be called the “agate type.”
I’ll have to see if I have a photo of this series, but I rather doubt it.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:02 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can someone id this model?
Erie? Just a wild guess.
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Re: Can someone id this model?
Richard Townsend
Erie? Just a wild guess.
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On Jan 31, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:
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Can someone id this model?
Pierre Oliver
This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards... -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
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Re: Rail Model Journal Modeling PFE Reefers
WILLIAM PARDIE
I’m afraid that I do not have an answer to RJ’s question on a follow up article. His post , however, does call attention to the treasure trove of articles that can be found in both the Rail Model Journal amd Model Railroading magazines that were published about the same time. Richard Hendrickson was a m major contributor to both magazines. I ddid not count the number of articles in the magazine In RJ’s post but it far exceeds anything that we have today. In my downtime I will pull out a stack of these magazines along with Mainline Modeler. It’s amazing how many articles I have forgotten that apply to my current projects. It has been about fifteen years since Mainline Modeler ceased publication and nothing has come along to replace these three magazines. Bill Pardie
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Re: Wilson Reefers HO
It doesn’t show up on the current F&C site so I don’t know. Heck, it may have been from when F&C was making kits for sunshine. I wasn’t into resin then, as a teen it was tough enough to afford shake the box kits.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Jan 31, 2021, at 1:02 PM, radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:
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Re: Wilson Reefers HO
radiodial868
How about the older Funaro & Camerlengo Resin Kit #3603 "37' Wood Meat Reefer Wilson Car Lines"? They show up on eBay from time to time.
It says it is accurate, but then it is from the era when close enough was good enough. Decals look nice. I have a kit, is there any drawings to compare against? -- ------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA
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Re: Wilson Reefers HO
Armand Premo
Also missing are ERDX Reefers.Armand Premo ![]()
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 1:35 AM nyc3001 . <nyc3001@...> wrote: WCLX apparently built cars to its own designs. I don't think that there are any accurate WCLX models besides the Sunshine kits, but it may be possible to kitbash one. afaik the Rapido reefers are not accurate for WCLX out of the box as they represent a GA design.
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Re: Wilson Reefers HO
nyc3001 .
WCLX apparently built cars to its own designs. I don't think that there are any accurate WCLX models besides the Sunshine kits, but it may be possible to kitbash one. afaik the Rapido reefers are not accurate for WCLX out of the box as they represent a GA design.
Accurate kits or models of WCLX, CRLX, NADX, Swift, and Armour meat reefers are sorely needed in HO imo. Almost every 1940s and 1950s consist with reefers that I've checked contained at least a few examples of the above cars. -Phil
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Wilson Reefers HO
Other than older sunshine kits are there any accurate Wilson refrigerator cars In HO scale? I’m finding they were delivered to Warren Pennsylvania quite often.
Brian J. Carlson
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Rail Model Journal Modeling PFE Reefers
radiodial868
Was Richard Hendrickson ever able to do the followup article on modeling rebuilt PFE Reefers in the Rail Model Journal? Here is the initial article on the pre-rebuilt versions with a closing teaser saying that there would be another article, but no luck in finding it so far.
http://magazine.trainlife.com/rmj_1997_4/ (page 46) -- ------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA
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Re: Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376
Rich C
Group, It is listed in the 1965 ORER. Rich Christie
On Saturday, January 30, 2021, 12:50:21 PM CST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
it's a photo from the 1960's or later so why do you think it would be in a 1955 roster? On 1/30/2021 12:24 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote: Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376 A photo from the Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/md0748.photos.086026p/resource/ Larger versions available. Description: "Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, Mount Clare Shops, South side of Pratt Street between Carey & Poppleton Streets, Baltimore, Independent City, MD." Appears to be the scrap line. I don't see this car listed in the 1955 Equipment Register. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376
it's a photo from the 1960's or later so why do you think it would be in a 1955 roster?
On 1/30/2021 12:24 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603
Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603 A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library: https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2776 Car possibly built in 1914. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Comments On C&BT Boxcars
Comments On C&BT Boxcars From Jim Sacco in Pittsburgh: "I was one of the people who thought it was a good idea for Dick S. to add molded-in details to his boxcars. I know a lot of folks were upset, but it became clear to me after a while, that Dick did not have the ability to produce kits with finer details. He didn't have the patience to deal with such fine parts. That's why I thought he would stand a better chance with an Accurail style kit that actually went together well compared to a kit with poorly fitting details. I've known Dennis Lippert forever and I know a good bit too about the history of C&BT because Dick was molding my first City Classics kits at the time. And because I designed his logo and did artwork for some of the early cars." Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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