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Re: DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

Richard Townsend
 

11,313 gallons.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

It looks like a GA-built car. What was the gallonage?

-Phil


Re: IM Steel NP Reefer Production Year

Matt Herson
 

Lester,

According to my records purchased my NP kit 8-13-00.

Matt Herson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] IM Steel NP Reefer Production Year

 

Working on a NP Steel Reefer 91325 produced by InterMountain exclusively for the Armarillo RR Museum.   I am wondering if anyone has the year in their notes these were available for purchase?  I contacted the museum and they guessed 20 years or so ago.  Hoping to get a year?
Thanks in advance for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer


Re: Sacramento Northern Boxcar 2346

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Bob,

Nice find. SN 02346 was one of 25 cars delivered by Mt. Vernon to the Sacramento Northern Railroad in late 1919 and early 1920. The series was numbered 2129-2153. These cars was virtually identical to the Western Pacific's 16001-series. Although the Sacramento Northern was acquired by the WP in the 1920s (as the Sacramento Northern Railway), these cars did receive the rebuilding with new roofs and steel ends all the WP cars got between 1929 and 1931. In 1947 the surviving 22 original SNRY cars were "retired". The WP then sent the SN 28 steel-end cars from their 316001-series, cars that had been numbered for restricted service because they never had their arch bar trucks replaced by Andrews trucks before WWII. The "new" cars were renumbered SN 2301-2328. In 1948 the original SN cars were "unretired", given AB brakes and returned to service as SN 2329-2351. Most cars from both groups received Andrews trucks circa 1953-1954. The all-wood and steel-end cars soldiered on in decreasing numbers into the 1970s, some converted to MW service. As late as 1969 three cars were still listed in revenue service. At least four survive in museums, along with a handful of WP cars never sent to the SN. 

I used to have a list of the renumberings for the SNRR cars, but that seems to have been lost long ago, so I can't tell you what 02346's number was when built.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆



On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:17 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Sacramento Northern Boxcar 2346

A photo by Bob Anderson on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/167338649@N03/49700175663/in/album-72157713114728251/

Forty-ton car, part of series 2329-2350

Stencil reads "Held To Be Retired".

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Can someone id this model?

Dennis Storzek
 

Keep in mind that William J. Clouser was not exactly a prototype modeler as we understand the term today. True, he built very exacting models, both for himself, and for paid commissions. His personal modeling interest was the big orange interurban cars of the Illinois Terminal system. Other work was commissions of his professional model making business.

My understanding of how the AAR boxcars came to be is that he was commissioned to build a courtroom diorama to illustrate a switching accident. Since he needed multiple boxcars to populate this diorama, he decided to build patterns and cast parts for the number of models he needed. Since they turned out well, some of his friends wanted copies, and he obliged. Eventually he offered them for sale. He did more models for sale later, but never another freight car.

This leaves me with two conflicting thoughts. Since he bothered to craft the complicated pattern for the end door, he must have needed it for the diorama, so there should be a prototype... UNLESS the end door pattern was commissioned by someone else, who wanted an auto car, but was not going to pay for an additional B end and door patterns.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Photo: B&O Covered Gondola 355376

Bob Weston
 

This is .a B&O class O-65E 70 ton gondola, number series 355350-355424 used to ship bar steel. These cars were converted from class O-65 (blt 1957-1960), in 1963-64.


Sacramento Northern Boxcar 2346

Bob Chaparro
 

Sacramento Northern Boxcar 2346

A photo by Bob Anderson on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/167338649@N03/49700175663/in/album-72157713114728251/

Forty-ton car, part of series 2329-2350

Stencil reads "Held To Be Retired".

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


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Jeffrey White
 

Just a test, earthlink had some difficulties overnight and bounced my email from about 3am till 1045.


IM Steel NP Reefer Production Year

Lester Breuer
 

Working on a NP Steel Reefer 91325 produced by InterMountain exclusively for the Armarillo RR Museum.   I am wondering if anyone has the year in their notes these were available for purchase?  I contacted the museum and they guessed 20 years or so ago.  Hoping to get a year?
Thanks in advance for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer


IM Reefer Production Year

Lester Breuer
 

Working on a NP Steel Reefer 91325 produced by InterMountain exclusively for the Armarillo RR Museum.   I am wondering if anyone has the year in their notes these were available for purchase?  I contacted the museum and they guessed 20 years or so ago.  Hoping to get a year?
Thanks in advance for your time and effort to respond.
Lester Breuer


CB&Q Double Door Outside Braced Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

CB&Q Double Door Outside Braced Boxcar

A photo by Bob Anderson on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/167338649@N03/49578659522/in/album-72157713114728251/

The car number is obscured.

While the picture was taken in 1974 the car does not appear to reflect modifications, at least to my eyes.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

Dave Parker
 

My understanding is that these ICC 105A cars dedicated to anhydrous ammonia use were all ~11,000 gallons. This one was 11,313.

Photo is too fuzzy to be certain, but it looks like an AC&F build to me.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Can someone id this model?

Tim O'Connor
 


the end does help - sets the time period prewar to around 1945

12' doors, RP flush roof and 5/5 end - won't be many that fit that profile!



On 2/1/2021 7:02 AM, Pierre Oliver wrote:

Here's a photo of the B end, which may help

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/31/21 2:32 p.m., Pierre Oliver wrote:

This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

-- 
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Semi OT: Commercial Car Journal

Brian Rochon
 

Garth,

Indeed.  That is the main reason that I am taking the time to go through 20 years worth of CCJ.  Although the number of images of steam-era freight cars is very limited, it is full of images of the trucks that loaded, unloaded and were carried on those cars.  For those of us who model prior to 1950, photo sources showing era-appropriate lettering and colors for trucks is hard to find.  The attached image of a Diamond T truck from the Feb 1945 issue of CCJ is one example.

 

HathiTrust has downloadable copies of CCJ from 1915 until the end of the period covered by this list (and beyond).

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

 

Friends,

 

That nifty slope-backed van in the upper right is lettered for Wilson's. Addition to a Wilson's meat packing plant scene.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆


Re: Can someone id this model?

O Fenton Wells
 

Looks like I was wrong, SRR cars ahd 4/5 ends and 7 rung ladders.  And were pretty, just say'in
Fenton

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 9:02 PM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
This model is famous in its own right, as I recall, as one of the first models made in resin.  As an O scale model, it was a good show piece, and I recall it being exhibited at Naperville in fairly recent years.  Don't recall who owned it at that time.  In that sense, it didn't really need a prototype, as it was intended to show off the dramatic things that could be done with resin casting.  Sorry I can't be much help with the actual question.

Ron Merrick



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Re: DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

nyc3001 .
 

It looks like a GA-built car. What was the gallonage?

-Phil


Re: DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

That nifty slope-backed van in the upper right is lettered for Wilson's. Addition to a Wilson's meat packing plant scene.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 7:48 AM Brian Rochon <berochon@...> wrote:

Came across this image from the October 1944 issue of the Commercial Car Journal on the HathiTrust website.

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

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DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

Brian Rochon
 

Came across this image from the October 1944 issue of the Commercial Car Journal on the HathiTrust website.

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Re: Can someone id this model?

Pierre Oliver
 

Here's a photo of the B end, which may help

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/31/21 2:32 p.m., Pierre Oliver wrote:

This is Bill Clouser built model of a 40’ DD (12’ opening) auto boxcar with an end door. I can’t for the life of me find a prototype for this car. Any ideas? Raised panel roof, 7/7 ladders wooden running boards...

-- 
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Can someone id this model?

Marc Simpson
 

I don't think that is a CP car, the 1937-38 cars had 13.5' door openings.  Also had 8 rung ladders.

Marc Simpson 



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Re: Can someone id this model?

mopacfirst
 

This model is famous in its own right, as I recall, as one of the first models made in resin.  As an O scale model, it was a good show piece, and I recall it being exhibited at Naperville in fairly recent years.  Don't recall who owned it at that time.  In that sense, it didn't really need a prototype, as it was intended to show off the dramatic things that could be done with resin casting.  Sorry I can't be much help with the actual question.

Ron Merrick

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