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Photo: NATX Three Compartment Tank Car 7069

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NATX Three Compartment Tank Car 7069

A photo from the University of Texas Libraries:

https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/sites/library.uta.edu.digitalgallery/files/20090000-20099999/20092635.jpg

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


USRA Rebuilt Twin Hoppers with welded bodies

Bob Weston
 

What railroads used these rebuilt hoppers?


Northern Pacific Steel Refrigerator Car 91253

Lester Breuer
 

I have completed the build of Northern Pacific (NP) steel Refrigerator car 91253 produced by InterMountain Railway Company exclusively for the Armarillo Railroad Museum.  If you are interested in the build of this plastic kit of NP refrigerator 91253 including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as running board and trucks.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:


http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer


Re: model needed

John Hile
 

There are a few on eBay right now.  Including and undec.

John Hile


Re: Wilson reefers.

Rufus Cone
 

I should have noticed that the caption is in error.  Ice hatches are clearly visible.

On 2/12/2021 10:42 PM, Rufus Cone wrote:

Came across this online while searching for a steam locomotive photo:

Ron V. Nixon Collection Image Record - rvn21078
http://www.morphotoarchive.org/rvndb/rvn_date_jpeg_rec.php?objno=RVN21078

"WCLX Wilson private line Mechanical Refrigerator cars in Missoula, MT."
June 14, 1957       Location: Missoula, MT       Photographer: Ron V. Nixon
Railroad: Northern Pacific Railway       

3 cars are shown.  The original is probably a 616 (2.5x4.5) negative, so should have good detail.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 02:32 PM, Brian Carlson wrote:
Has anyone ever done a deep dive on history the Wilson fleet during the steam era?
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Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT
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Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT


Re: Wilson reefers.

Rufus Cone
 

Came across this online while searching for a steam locomotive photo:

Ron V. Nixon Collection Image Record - rvn21078
http://www.morphotoarchive.org/rvndb/rvn_date_jpeg_rec.php?objno=RVN21078

"WCLX Wilson private line Mechanical Refrigerator cars in Missoula, MT."
June 14, 1957       Location: Missoula, MT       Photographer: Ron V. Nixon
Railroad: Northern Pacific Railway       

3 cars are shown.  The original is probably a 616 (2.5x4.5) negative, so should have good detail.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 02:32 PM, Brian Carlson wrote:
Has anyone ever done a deep dive on history the Wilson fleet during the steam era?
_,_._,_
-- 
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

Tim O'Connor
 


Gussets can be made with mylar sheet, cut with scissors to size. And mylar will hold rivet impressions.
Jack Spencer used mylar attached with dilute contact cement (I dilute with MEK) which can be brushed
on and dries (evaporates) quickly.


On 2/12/2021 1:29 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Richard;

 

You bet.

 

My prob with “hard” gussets was that they don’t nestle down.  I had best luck with very thin embossed sheet, or decals with the black edges and rivets/bolts highlighted.  Just my experience.

 

Still hoping I can find a better B end pic for brakes.

 

Elden Gatwood



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Interesting photos

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Randy,
 
Thanks, very interesting viewing
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 6:35 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Interesting photos

I have a couple of recent blog posts of some interesting freight cars photos on the New Haven. There will be more over the next few weeks.

Transformer Cars:
https://blog.newbritainstation.com/2021/01/transformer-cars.html?m=1


Containers in gons:
 
Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


FW: Private: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Folks;

 

Dan, the Man, had the definitive answer!

 

See below.

 

PRR liked Universal brake gear.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: Dan Smith <espeefan@...>
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Gatwood; Gatwood, Elden J CIV CESAW CESAD (USA) <Elden.J.Gatwood@...>
Subject: Private: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

 

Elden,

The handbrake looks to be a Universal M1704 forged ( stamped ) wheel with M20549 gear.

Both wheel and gear have been done by Kadee.

Hope this helps,
Dan Smith


Re: Interesting photos

gary laakso
 

The caption on the side of the first container in the first gondola picture could be “Pontoon Gear”

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Hammill
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Interesting photos

 

I have a couple of recent blog posts of some interesting freight cars photos on the New Haven. There will be more over the next few weeks.

Transformer Cars:


Interesting photos

Randy Hammill
 

I have a couple of recent blog posts of some interesting freight cars photos on the New Haven. There will be more over the next few weeks.

Transformer Cars:
https://blog.newbritainstation.com/2021/01/transformer-cars.html?m=1


Containers in gons:
 
Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: model needed

Richard Townsend
 

Those prices include postage, by the way.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Mont Switzer <MSwitzer@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2021 2:19 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] model needed

I am looking for one of these cars made about 10 years ago by MDC.  Road name is not important.  What IS important is I need the single steel door version.

If you have one you can part with contact me off list at mswitzer@...

Mont Switzer


Re: model needed - MDC/Roundhouse

Richard Brennan
 

At 02:19 PM 2/12/2021, Mont Switzer wrote:
I am looking for one of these cars made about 10 years ago by MDC.
That's a Carson City NV address on the flyer... pre-2004!

How time flies when you're having fun!


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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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model needed

Mont Switzer
 

I am looking for one of these cars made about 10 years ago by MDC.  Road name is not important.  What IS important is I need the single steel door version.

If you have one you can part with contact me off list at mswitzer@...

Mont Switzer


Re: Soo Line Boxcars

william darnaby
 

I agree, Michael.  Still hoping for Collinsville.  I would have gone to Cocoa Beach if they had it.  At least I’m getting a lot of basement time and having sessions with the boys.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Gross
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:21 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line Boxcars

 

Nice work, Bill, and hope to see you again—one fine day—at a face-to-face meet.

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA

P.S.  Reading your post made me miss Ron Sebastian at Des Plaines, all the more.  :0(


Re: Roma wine cars converted from PFE refers

brianleppert@att.net
 

There is a Stanley Borden photo on page 171 in Kent Stephens' 1977 book on the Diamond Match Co., Matched, Flumes, and Rails, of Roma Wine Co.'s ex-PFE reefer CDLX 297.  Diamond Match Co. bought eight Roma Wine Co. cars from F. L. Bottsford and rebuilt six into flat cars.  The other two cars were not repainted.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Richard;

 

You bet.

 

My prob with “hard” gussets was that they don’t nestle down.  I had best luck with very thin embossed sheet, or decals with the black edges and rivets/bolts highlighted.  Just my experience.

 

Still hoping I can find a better B end pic for brakes.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 12:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

 

Thanks! Speaking of doorway gussets, I wonder if those would make a good etched part, if their design was reasonably consistent over time and/or between roads.

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2021 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

Guys;

 

I can’t find the correspondence on whose, but they are definitely some kind of rectangular grid.

 

Link:

 

 

 

Apex or Blawknox, I don’t know.

 

Given Dec (IIRC) 1953 build, not surprising short-taper IDEs, high tack boards, OH diag panel roof.  Note doorway gussets PRR was adding in this timeframe, plus 10” (IIRC) channel side sill.

 

Don’t know all the brake details (yet).

 

One of the last cars in CK P&L.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

 


Photos appear to show APEX (grid) running boards, although the photos are not definitive.


On 2/11/2021 2:23 PM, Richard Townsend via groups.io wrote:

What kind of running board did the PRR use on their X47 boxcars?

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Boiler Load Project

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Feb 12, 2021, at 09:25, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Actually, for other loads I have seen the strapping brought through the stake pocket and up again to the strapping above the pocket with some sort of fastener connecting the two. I'd probably do this next time.
I know from personal experience that those banding clamps are almost strong enough to exceed the tensile strength of the bands. This is one reason out of a Veritable Plethora™ of reasons that for me, time stopped before 1930. (even log chains and cam-action lever binders are suspect)
--
Artie the Hinged Jaw


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

Richard Townsend
 

Thanks! Speaking of doorway gussets, I wonder if those would make a good etched part, if their design was reasonably consistent over time and/or between roads.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2021 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board

Guys;
 
I can’t find the correspondence on whose, but they are definitely some kind of rectangular grid.
 
Link:
 
 
 
Apex or Blawknox, I don’t know.
 
Given Dec (IIRC) 1953 build, not surprising short-taper IDEs, high tack boards, OH diag panel roof.  Note doorway gussets PRR was adding in this timeframe, plus 10” (IIRC) channel side sill.
 
Don’t know all the brake details (yet).
 
One of the last cars in CK P&L.
 
Elden Gatwood
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:32 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X47 running board
 

Photos appear to show APEX (grid) running boards, although the photos are not definitive.


On 2/11/2021 2:23 PM, Richard Townsend via groups.io wrote:
What kind of running board did the PRR use on their X47 boxcars?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Boiler Load Project

mel perry
 

the straps are "crimped" together, usually
the fastner will.have 2 or 4 "toothmarks"
where the fastner has been "crimped"
by the "crimper" (the tool)
;-)

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 9:25 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Actually, for other loads I have seen the strapping brought through the stake pocket and up again to the strapping above the pocket with some sort of fastener connecting the two. I'd probably do this next time.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

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