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Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

Paul Doggett
 

Lester 

That’s another fine looking build 
Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 2 Mar 2021, at 02:19, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:



I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models resin kit of Northern Pacific (NP) double-sheathed Box  Car 12833.  If you are interested in the build of this resin  kit of NP double-sheathed Box Car including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as unusual sill steps or modified Minor Ideal lever-style hand brake.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer


Re: view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

Tim O'Connor
 


Schuyler I bought a second hand copy of Photoshop 10.0 on Ebay for $10. I've been using it for a
couple of years and it works just fine. :-)


On 3/1/2021 10:01 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:

Yeah, Claus, some of us might, like me.  Interesting photo that probably would benefit from Photoshop, which I don’t currently have.

 

I model the ERIE, you understand.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 7:04 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

 

Hi List Members,

 

Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

Robert Allan
 

I enjoy your build narrative. The step by step is very well done. Model turned out very well.

Bob Allan


Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Lester, your production, both quantity and quality, is amazing.

 

Beautiful model.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 9:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

 

I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models resin kit of Northern Pacific (NP) double-sheathed Box  Car 12833.  If you are interested in the build of this resin  kit of NP double-sheathed Box Car including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as unusual sill steps or modified Minor Ideal lever-style hand brake.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer


Re: view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yeah, Claus, some of us might, like me.  Interesting photo that probably would benefit from Photoshop, which I don’t currently have.

 

I model the ERIE, you understand.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 7:04 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

 

Hi List Members,

 

Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 


Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

Scott
 

Really nice model Lester.  I enjoy reading your build posts.  The Miner Ideal brake machine isn't something we see every day.  Judging by the size I am guessing it provided additional mechanical leverage?

Thanks for sharing your building 
Scott McDonald 


Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

Lester Breuer
 

I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models resin kit of Northern Pacific (NP) double-sheathed Box  Car 12833.  If you are interested in the build of this resin  kit of NP double-sheathed Box Car including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as unusual sill steps or modified Minor Ideal lever-style hand brake.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer


view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: Red Owl warehouse

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 10:49 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
      My experience with West Coast lumber waybills, is that they often were routed somewhere, say Los Angeles from the Northwest, in care of the agent for diversion. A local lumber broker would make the sale and notify the agent where to send the load, or it might be routed onward to somewhere like St. Louis, to be held again in hopes of a better price. Some perishables moved that way too.
It was my understanding (Dan can correct me if I'm wrong) that a waybill wasn't complete unless it had a destination. Typical practice was for the broker to consign the load to himself at the most distant point where he knew he could still sell it, and then he worked to sell it while it was en-route and he would re-consign it when he did. However, if the broker should die before that happened, the railroad still needed a destination for the load.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Red Owl warehouse

Tony Thompson
 

So you can update your blog, junction point between CB&Q and MILW was East Moline, IL., shown in pencil on the waybill.  Route shown on waybill was common for "diversion", also called "roller", lumber.  Typical of these types of shipments was routing via obscure junction points to further delay the shipment while a broker found a buyer.

Thanks, Dan, I hadn't picked up on the "East Moline." But the original waybill shows the final destination that was in fact used. I suppose it was the "fallback," and if a better price had been found, it would have changed.
      My experience with West Coast lumber waybills, is that they often were routed somewhere, say Los Angeles from the Northwest, in care of the agent for diversion. A local lumber broker would make the sale and notify the agent where to send the load, or it might be routed onward to somewhere like St. Louis, to be held again in hopes of a better price. Some perishables moved that way too.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: Boxcars In 1902

Eric Hansmann
 

That’s a nice string of boxcars. Check out all of the chalk marks!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 11:39 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcars In 1902

 

Photo: Boxcars In 1902

A photo from Digital Commonwealth courtesy of Robert England:

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vt150m265

Click and scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Title:

Wachusett Reservoir, relocation of Worcester, Nashua & Portland Division of Boston & Maine Railroad, slope paving north of Oakdale depot, Oakdale, West Boylston, Mass., Nov. 22, 1902

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Boxcars In 1902

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcars In 1902

A photo from Digital Commonwealth courtesy of Robert England:

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vt150m265

Click and scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Title:

Wachusett Reservoir, relocation of Worcester, Nashua & Portland Division of Boston & Maine Railroad, slope paving north of Oakdale depot, Oakdale, West Boylston, Mass., Nov. 22, 1902

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

Eric Hansmann
 

Rich,

I'm not 100% certain, but I think the proper brake gear housing is the one in-line with the brake cylinder and air reservoir on the resin parts sheet. I've reviewed the instructions and prototype images a couple times and that seems to be the one to use. Instructions and prototype images are posted on the kit extras page.

On page three of the first instruction PDF is an image of the kit parts with the resin detail parts sheet in the upper right corner. I think the other brake gear housing is there for another possible kit that needs the same parts details. I'll check with Frank as soon as he's back from a family vacation.



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


On 02/28/2021 5:02 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:


I am in the process of building the Resin Car Works Soo Line 50’ boxcar kit.  Two different type of brake gear are provided, but I couldn’t find any information that shows which series of cars used which brake gear.  Does  anyone have this information?


Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN


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unloading bulk cement from boxcars

Douglas Harding
 

Couple of several interesting photos showing unloading of bulk cement from boxcars.

http://www.bigbendrailroadhistory.com/2018/12/grand-coulee-cement-boxcar-unloading.html

 

 

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Red Owl warehouse

lstt100
 

Tony,

So you can update your blog, junction point between CB&Q and MILW was East Moline, IL., shown in pencil on the waybill.  Route shown on waybill was common for "diversion", also called "roller", lumber.  Typical of these types of shipments was routing via obscure junction points to further delay the shipment while a broker found a buyer.

Dan Holbrook


Re: Freight Terminals & Trains

Kenneth Montero
 

Because not all of them are - and, for some of us, paper copy is easier to handle. Your choice.
Ken Montero 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Ray Breyer via groups.io" <rtbsvrr69@...>
Date: 3/1/21 8:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Terminals & Trains

I've downloaded more than 10,000 books, magazines, periodicals, and catalogs from GB and other digitized libraries. Why would I bother to print them all when they're all digitized, searchable, and indexed?

No need to kill trees. 

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 09:31:38 PM CST, Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:


NMRA offers a reprint of this book.
 $60.00 hardback, includes shipping. May be cheaper than copying a download and then printing it., especially if ypu include the value of your time dealing with this download.
Ken Montero 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bill Keene via groups.io" <bill41@...>
Date: 2/28/21 4:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Terminals & Trains

I have a hardbound copy of Passenger Terminals and Trains. Am very glad to learn that there is a download available for Freight Terminals and Trains. 

Thanks.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Feb 28, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I searched on Passenger Terminals and Trains and found his other classic book for download.
 
Nelson Moyer
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Paasch
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Terminals & Trains
 
Thanks for pointing this scan out, Bob.  I noticed that the physical book they scanned was through the courtesy of funding by James J. Hill as mentioned on the first flyleaf.  Good old Jim Hill still educating us about railroading!
 
  Doug Paasch

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 11:38 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Freight Terminals & Trains
The 1912 book, Freight Terminals & Trains by John A. Droege, has a ton material applicable to the Steam Era.
Here is a link.
This material can be download as a PDF or as plain text.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA



Re: Freight Terminals & Trains

Ray Breyer
 

I've downloaded more than 10,000 books, magazines, periodicals, and catalogs from GB and other digitized libraries. Why would I bother to print them all when they're all digitized, searchable, and indexed?

No need to kill trees. 

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 09:31:38 PM CST, Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:


NMRA offers a reprint of this book.
 $60.00 hardback, includes shipping. May be cheaper than copying a download and then printing it., especially if ypu include the value of your time dealing with this download.
Ken Montero 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bill Keene via groups.io" <bill41@...>
Date: 2/28/21 4:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Terminals & Trains

I have a hardbound copy of Passenger Terminals and Trains. Am very glad to learn that there is a download available for Freight Terminals and Trains. 

Thanks.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Feb 28, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I searched on Passenger Terminals and Trains and found his other classic book for download.
 
Nelson Moyer
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Paasch
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 3:15 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Freight Terminals & Trains
 
Thanks for pointing this scan out, Bob.  I noticed that the physical book they scanned was through the courtesy of funding by James J. Hill as mentioned on the first flyleaf.  Good old Jim Hill still educating us about railroading!
 
  Doug Paasch

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 11:38 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Freight Terminals & Trains
The 1912 book, Freight Terminals & Trains by John A. Droege, has a ton material applicable to the Steam Era.
Here is a link.
This material can be download as a PDF or as plain text.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA



Re: Red Owl warehouse

Enzo Fortuna
 

Attached is a photo of bulk sugar begin unloaded from a boxcar

looking at similar photos ... I am always amazed by the hygienic principles of the method used in the years we model!
Good old time?
--
Enzo Fortuna


Re: Mystery boxcars - anyone know what these are based off or of any similar cars?

al_brown03
 

Years ago I detailed up one of those TM double-sheathed boxcars with the Dreadnaught end, as a stand-in for a Lehigh Valley '24 ARA double-sheathed boxcar. The discrepancy between the 3/3/3 end, and the correct 4/4 (I think it is), I just ignored.
<sirens wail> 

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Mystery boxcars - anyone know what these are based off or of any similar cars?

Jack Mullen
 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 01:01 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
The 3/3/3 end on the SP car would be rarity.
I really wonder about those ends. The 3/3/3 dreadnaught was used in the '20s on 10' IH auto cars. The T-M model is more like 8'6", maybe 9' IH. Maybe they reduced the rib spacing ??

Jack Mullen

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