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how they harvested ice for all those reefers!
Schuyler Larrabee
It's really quite fascinating. A lake frozen hard enough that multiple cars were driven out on it. but it's the harvesting that is interesting.
How they did that.
Schuyler
> Erie subsidiary Wilkes-Barre and Eastern harvesting ice in the Poconos. > Note the Erie box cars. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcjByytYiqw
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Peter Ness
I bought three NH cars when they were released, painted the doors for my era and renumbered two of them…still have to find correct door stencils to apply and clear coat. Scroll down this page https://sites.google.com/view/newhavenrailroad1959/new-haven-freight-cars
Peter Ness
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 12:00 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1
Elden Gatwood asked: "Has anyone received an early PS-1 from Kadee?
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
SamClarke
Hello STMFC,
That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.
6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP
7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH
8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU
Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.
We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when.
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Ed Hawkins
Eldon, I have received several of Kadee’s new models, and your assumption is correct. Kadee models representing PS-1 box cars built in 1947 & 1948 are found at www.kadee.com. In addition to the good info that Ben provided before my reply was completed, I offer the following. Catalogue numbers of Kadee models released to date (all are sold out at Kadee): 4322 ATSF 276749 4323 NH 33870 4324 Southern 262053 4326 UP 100675 4328 ATSF 276604 4329 NYC 167299 The above models released to date have either 6’ or 7’ door openings. Kadee’s “early” PS-1 box car models have retooled ends, roof (2 versions), side sill connections with crosswise underframe components, doors (all Superior 7-panel), some additional rivets not found on post-1950 PS-1s, and new end details that also include some hand brakes not previously offered. The two roof versions are the original (but short-lived) PS-1 welded roof and alternate PS-1 roof. The alternate roof is like the post-1950 roof except lacking crosswise pressed corrugations on the two roof sheets adjacent to the ends. Railroads matching the existing Kadee PS-1 bodies with 10-panel welded sides include the following. LV, BM, CGW, KCS, MEC, NYC (original PS-1 welded roof) ATSF, COPR, CMO, CNW, DSS&A, NH, P&WV, Southern, UP (alternate early-version riveted PS-1 roof) Railroads owning PS-1s built in 1947-1948 with similar features but with 8’ door openings are SA, Seaboard, SL-SF, and Southern. Time will tell if Kadee will release models of these cars. Incidentally, the link Ben provided for my PS-1 roster dates back to about 20 years ago and has since been extensively updated. I’ll work with Rob to provide the updated roster to the STMFC web site. Hope this answers your questions. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Thanks, Ben!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 12:00 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1
Elden Gatwood asked: "Has anyone received an early PS-1 from Kadee?
Not yet, though hopefully Sam Clarke will chime in with more information soon.
"Which RRs would be represented by this model?" Depending on door widths, roads with PS-1s built before 1950 with 10-panel welded sides are:
6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP
7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH
8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU
More information on Ed Hawkins' PS-1 spreadsheet here:
Link to the Kadee flyer:
Ben Hom
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Re: Photo: Boxcars In 1902
Schuyler Larrabee
The FITCHBURG and INTERCOLONIAL cars are rate animals!
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 12:27 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcars In 1902
Another Boxcar String, Same Collection And Year Courtesy of Robert England, a photo from Digital Commonwealth: https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vt150m24m Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photo: Boxcars In 1902
Another Boxcar String, Same Collection And Year Courtesy of Robert England, a photo from Digital Commonwealth: https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vt150m24m Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Benjamin Hom
Elden Gatwood asked: "Has anyone received an early PS-1 from Kadee? Not yet, though hopefully Sam Clarke will chime in with more information soon. "Which RRs would be represented by this model?" Depending on door widths, roads with PS-1s built before 1950 with 10-panel welded sides are: 6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP 7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH 8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU More information on Ed Hawkins' PS-1 spreadsheet here: Link to the Kadee flyer: Ben Hom
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Kadee early PS-1
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Folks;
Has anyone received an early PS-1 from Kadee?
Which RRs would be represented by this model?
I assume they’re up to Kadee’s usual standard of accuracy.
What do you think?
Elden Gatwood
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Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833
Paul Doggett
Lester
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That’s another fine looking build Paul Doggett. England 🏴
On 2 Mar 2021, at 02:19, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
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Re: view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads
Schuyler I bought a second hand copy of Photoshop 10.0 on Ebay for $10. I've been using it for a couple of years and it works just fine. :-)
On 3/1/2021 10:01 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833
Robert Allan
I enjoy your build narrative. The step by step is very well done. Model turned out very well.
Bob Allan
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Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833
Schuyler Larrabee
Lester, your production, both quantity and quality, is amazing.
Beautiful model.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 9:19 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Northern Pacific Box Car 12833
I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models resin kit of Northern Pacific (NP) double-sheathed Box Car 12833. If you are interested in the build of this resin kit of NP double-sheathed Box Car including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as unusual sill steps or modified Minor Ideal lever-style hand brake. Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:
Lester Breuer
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Re: view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads
Schuyler Larrabee
Yeah, Claus, some of us might, like me. Interesting photo that probably would benefit from Photoshop, which I don’t currently have.
I model the ERIE, you understand.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 7:04 PM To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads
Hi List Members,
Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833
Scott
Really nice model Lester. I enjoy reading your build posts. The Miner Ideal brake machine isn't something we see every day. Judging by the size I am guessing it provided additional mechanical leverage?
Thanks for sharing your building Scott McDonald
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Northern Pacific Box Car 12833
Lester Breuer
I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models resin kit of Northern Pacific (NP) double-sheathed Box Car 12833. If you are interested in the build of this resin kit of NP double-sheathed Box Car including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as unusual sill steps or modified Minor Ideal lever-style hand brake. Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link: Lester Breuer
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view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy
duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Red Owl warehouse
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 10:49 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
It was my understanding (Dan can correct me if I'm wrong) that a waybill wasn't complete unless it had a destination. Typical practice was for the broker to consign the load to himself at the most distant point where he knew he could still sell it, and then he worked to sell it while it was en-route and he would re-consign it when he did. However, if the broker should die before that happened, the railroad still needed a destination for the load. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Red Owl warehouse
Tony Thompson
Thanks, Dan, I hadn't picked up on the "East Moline." But the original waybill shows the final destination that was in fact used. I suppose it was the "fallback," and if a better price had been found, it would have changed. My experience with West Coast lumber waybills, is that they often were routed somewhere, say Los Angeles from the Northwest, in care of the agent for diversion. A local lumber broker would make the sale and notify the agent where to send the load, or it might be routed onward to somewhere like St. Louis, to be held again in hopes of a better price. Some perishables moved that way too. Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: Boxcars In 1902
Eric Hansmann
That’s a nice string of boxcars. Check out all of the chalk marks!
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 11:39 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcars In 1902
Photo: Boxcars In 1902 A photo from Digital Commonwealth courtesy of Robert England: https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:vt150m265 Click and scroll on the photo to enlarge it. Title: Wachusett Reservoir, relocation of Worcester, Nashua & Portland Division of Boston & Maine Railroad, slope paving north of Oakdale depot, Oakdale, West Boylston, Mass., Nov. 22, 1902 Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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