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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Sam,

Still hoping you will do the 50' Morton running board. I do appreciate the 40' Morton boards, and bought a mess to upgrade my WP cars.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

Oops, I don’t know how my brain was going fast than my fingers.

 

Chris the roofs cannot be made as a separate part.  We might eventually do some of these cars as kits but not for a while. Because of the virus we are actually ”busier than ever”, we can’t even keep up with our present sales.

 

Patience Clark, you’ll live long enough to see them.

 

Thanks all for the tank car info, when I get the time (a fictitious term) I’ll check our photo files and rosters.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Tim O'Connor
 

Sam

I'm very surprised that you would consider 8 foot door cars, but not the 7 foot door cars.
The New Haven had a large number of these cars - they would be very important to STMFC
northeastern modelers, and probably of some interest to most other STMFC class 1 modelers.

And if you ever did the 10 foot inside height cars, that would be manna from heaven!! :-D
The New Haven also had a large number of these cars, and many ended their lives working
for other railroads (i.e. more paint schemes).

Tim O'Connor

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On 3/2/2021 1:18 PM, SamClarke via groups.io wrote:

Hello STMFC,

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks for the info, Garth!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

 

Elden,

 

I bought their Southern 262053, part number 4324. It lacks the five little stiffeners under the running board, there are no ribs on the outermost roof panels, and the ends are riveted. These are all features seen on most early PS-1s. The lettering matches a photo I have from an RMJ article. The main thing I question is the black running board, which I think is Ajax. Some of the very early PS-1s had AAR underframes, but Kadee included a PS-1 underframe. I don't know which cars had which. For some reason, I don't have Ed Hawkins' roster in my collection any more to check on these things. Must track that down on the Trainlife data base.

 

I know there have been a few mistakes on some Kadee cars (no Morton running boards until recently, for example), though they do try very hard to be accurate. I am very satisfied.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:25 AM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Folks;

 

Has anyone received an early PS-1 from Kadee?

 

Which RRs would be represented by this model?

 

I assume they’re up to Kadee’s usual standard of accuracy.

 

What do you think?

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: Kadee early PS-1

SamClarke
 

Randy,   much of the time for in service cars is a matter having “really good” photos that we can read all the small data and see the details of the car. There are many roads and paint schemes we have not done because we don’t have good photos.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Randy Hammill
 

Great to hear Sam!

While you look at that, you have also never done the CNJ/CRP scheme on the hoppers. It’s the correct version of that hopper, I can dig up road numbers from RPCyc later if that helps.

Thanks!


Randy
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Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Kadee early PS-1

SamClarke
 

Oops, I don’t know how my brain was going fast than my fingers.

 

Chris the roofs cannot be made as a separate part.  We might eventually do some of these cars as kits but not for a while. Because of the virus we are actually ”busier than ever”, we can’t even keep up with our present sales.

 

Patience Clark, you’ll live long enough to see them.

 

Thanks all for the tank car info, when I get the time (a fictitious term) I’ll check our photo files and rosters.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

SamClarke
 

Chris the roofs cannot be made as a separate part.  We might eventually do some of these cars as kits but not for a while. Because of the virus we are actually we can’t even keep up with our present sales.

 

Patience Clark, you’ll live long enough to see them.

 

Thanks all for the tank car info, when I get the time (a fictitious term) I’ll check our photo files and rosters.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Calling TJ Sratton

Clark Propst
 

TJ, could you please contact me off list?

cepropst@q.com


Re: Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...

Brian Termunde
 

Well it 'tops' the Boston & Maine! <G>

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Hi List Members,
 
Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...
 
 
Oops!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: how they harvested ice for all those reefers!

Ray Hutchison
 

There is a similar film showing harvesting of ice on Green Bay and transportation to ice house storage, for later use in rail and other industries.  Don't think it could be done these days; many of the lakes and rivers that I recall ice-skating and playing hockey on rarely freeze over.  If you happen to be visiting Green Bay, you can see the film at the Neville Public Museum.

ray hutchison


Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

Eric Hansmann
 

Sorry for a delayed response. I discussed this with Frank yesterday. There are extra parts on the resin detail sheet to cover a couple boxcar prototypes. Attached is an image of that sheet with an arrow pointing to the Klasing brake gear housing to install on the Soo boxcars. The other one is a Universal brake gear housing.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Smith
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:59 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Hello Richard,

The gear that you are trying to identify is an Equipco 3750 gear.

This gear would NOT have been on an as built Soo Line that is the RCW kit as the earliest date of production for the 3750 is 10-1950

See my post #164782 where I copy information from Gene Green

Hope this helps,
Dan


Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

Clark Propst
 

Nice build so far Rich. Who’s ladders are you using?

Clark

 

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Clark Propst
 

Sure would like to add a Kadee PS1 to my roster. Waiting for the CGW 93000 series….

Clark

 

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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Hello Richard,

The gear that you are trying to identify is an Equipco 3750 gear.

This gear would NOT have been on an as built Soo Line that is the RCW kit as the earliest date of production for the 3750 is 10-1950

See my post #164782 where I copy information from Gene Green

Hope this helps,
Dan


Re: Kadee early PS-1

leakinmywaders
 

Are the Kadee 40ft pre-1950 PS-1s molded with separate roof castings, by any chance?  And might an undec kit version be available any time soon?

I ask because these would be ideal for modeling a series of NP-leased ex-LV PS-1s, rebuilt by A.A. Morrison Co., but those cars had replacement diagonal panel roofs. 

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT 


Re: Kadee early PS-1

Lloyd Keyser
 

Thank you very much Lloyd

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:06 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

OK Guys,  If the tank cars are on our list and don’t have a complicated paint scheme we’ll eventually get around to the roads you’ve mentioned. I’ll check them out.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

Richard Remiarz
 

Eric,

 

Thanks for helping on my request for information on the brakes for the RCW Soo Line boxcar kit.  Ed Hawkins emailed me yesterday off-list regarding the brake gear on the Soo Line 50’ boxcars.  After several emails back and forth I have enough information to build an accurate car.  A photo of the completed end is attached.

 

The answer is that different series used different brake gear.  The two series built in 1940 used Klasing brakes.  The kit includes a Klasing brake wheel.  This is the brake wheel and brake gear that Resin Car Works is selling through Shapeways.  The brake gear is also included with the kit.  It is the brake gear just above the brake levers and underneath the coupler box.

 

The other two series of boxcars used Universal brake gear with a Universal M2049 brake wheel.  Currently an HO M2049 brake wheel is not available.  I decided to model a 1940 car so that I can use the excellent Klasing brake gear provided with the kit.

 

Once Frank gets back from vacation, I would be interested in knowing what brand of brake gear is represented by the brake gear included with the kit that is in-line with the brake cylinder.  I am still learning about the various manufacturers of brake gear, but an trying to add the correct brake gear to my models.  I’m sure I can use that casting on one of my other projects.  Too many kits rely on just the Tichy AB brake set which only comes with Ajax brake gear.  Kadee makes a variety of great brake wheels, but you guys are including different brake gear that makes the models even better.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 

 

 

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From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:59 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Rich,

 

I'm not 100% certain, but I think the proper brake gear housing is the one in-line with the brake cylinder and air reservoir on the resin parts sheet. I've reviewed the instructions and prototype images a couple times and that seems to be the one to use. Instructions and prototype images are posted on the kit extras page.

 

On page three of the first instruction PDF is an image of the kit parts with the resin detail parts sheet in the upper right corner. I think the other brake gear housing is there for another possible kit that needs the same parts details. I'll check with Frank as soon as he's back from a family vacation.

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy

 

 

On 02/28/2021 5:02 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:

 

 

I am in the process of building the Resin Car Works Soo Line 50’ boxcar kit.  Two different type of brake gear are provided, but I couldn’t find any information that shows which series of cars used which brake gear.  Does  anyone have this information?

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Tony Thompson
 

Steve aHile wrote:

The original Skelgas propane cars disappeared into UTLX with the rest of the Skelly fleet.  But the Skelgas logo did show up on UTLX propane cars.  The question is, was that used on any cars that match the Kadee model?

     Love the collection of chalk marks! Some modelers seem to think tank cars didn't get them.

Tony Thompson




Re: Kadee early PS-1

Steve and Barb Hile
 

The original Skelgas propane cars disappeared into UTLX with the rest of the Skelly fleet.  But the Skelgas logo did show up on UTLX propane cars.  The question is, was that used on any cars that match the Kadee model?

 

I know that Skelgas was used on at least one ACF built car, but it was one built during WWII and had Alan Wood steel running boards.

 

 

Steve Hile

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:14 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

 

Don’t forget Warren!!

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lloyd Keyser
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 5:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

 

Hi Sam, I'm a transplant from Iowa. As they say, I got here to Texas  as soon as I could. The 11000 gal propane tanks seen all over the midwest were Phill Gas and Skell Gas. I just can't use the ones I have never seen or heard of. These cars came out of Tulsa. Sure would like to see one in one of your runs.

Sincerely Lloyd Keyser

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:18 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello STMFC,

 

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

 

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

 

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

 

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

 

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

 

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 

 

 

 

Sam Clarke

R&D / Tech Advisor / Artist

Kadee Quality Products Co.

mail@...

541-826-3883

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is

bill woelfel
 

Definitely an ATSF car, blow up the pic and you can see the cross & circle shield logo just above the corner of the  truck. Also the Bx- stenciled lower right corner by the poling pocket.  Bill W

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