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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Sam, Still hoping you will do the 50' Morton running board. I do appreciate the 40' Morton boards, and bought a mess to upgrade my WP cars. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Sam I'm very surprised that you would consider 8 foot door cars, but not the 7 foot door cars. The New Haven had a large number of these cars - they would be very important to STMFC northeastern modelers, and probably of some interest to most other STMFC class 1 modelers. And if you ever did the 10 foot inside height cars, that would be manna from heaven!! :-D The New Haven also had a large number of these cars, and many ended their lives working for other railroads (i.e. more paint schemes). Tim O'Connor =====================================
On 3/2/2021 1:18 PM, SamClarke via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Thanks for the info, Garth!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:01 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1
Elden,
I bought their Southern 262053, part number 4324. It lacks the five little stiffeners under the running board, there are no ribs on the outermost roof panels, and the ends are riveted. These are all features seen on most early PS-1s. The lettering matches a photo I have from an RMJ article. The main thing I question is the black running board, which I think is Ajax. Some of the very early PS-1s had AAR underframes, but Kadee included a PS-1 underframe. I don't know which cars had which. For some reason, I don't have Ed Hawkins' roster in my collection any more to check on these things. Must track that down on the Trainlife data base.
I know there have been a few mistakes on some Kadee cars (no Morton running boards until recently, for example), though they do try very hard to be accurate. I am very satisfied.
Yours Aye,
Garth Groff 🦆
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:25 AM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
SamClarke
Randy, much of the time for in service cars is a matter having “really good” photos that we can read all the small data and see the details of the car. There are many roads and paint schemes we have not done because we don’t have good photos.
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Randy Hammill
Great to hear Sam!
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
SamClarke
Oops, I don’t know how my brain was going fast than my fingers.
Chris the roofs cannot be made as a separate part. We might eventually do some of these cars as kits but not for a while. Because of the virus we are actually ”busier than ever”, we can’t even keep up with our present sales.
Patience Clark, you’ll live long enough to see them.
Thanks all for the tank car info, when I get the time (a fictitious term) I’ll check our photo files and rosters.
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
SamClarke
Chris the roofs cannot be made as a separate part. We might eventually do some of these cars as kits but not for a while. Because of the virus we are actually we can’t even keep up with our present sales.
Patience Clark, you’ll live long enough to see them.
Thanks all for the tank car info, when I get the time (a fictitious term) I’ll check our photo files and rosters.
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Calling TJ Sratton
Clark Propst
TJ, could you please contact me off list?
cepropst@q.com
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Re: Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...
Brian Termunde
Well it 'tops' the Boston & Maine! <G> Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
Hi List Members,
Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...
Oops!
Claus Schlund
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Re: how they harvested ice for all those reefers!
Ray Hutchison
There is a similar film showing harvesting of ice on Green Bay and transportation to ice house storage, for later use in rail and other industries. Don't think it could be done these days; many of the lakes and rivers that I recall ice-skating and playing hockey on rarely freeze over. If you happen to be visiting Green Bay, you can see the film at the Neville Public Museum.
ray hutchison
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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works
Eric Hansmann
Sorry for a delayed response. I discussed this with Frank yesterday. There are extra parts on the resin detail sheet to cover a couple boxcar prototypes. Attached is an image of that sheet with an arrow pointing to the Klasing brake gear housing to install on the Soo boxcars. The other one is a Universal brake gear housing.
Eric Hansmann RCW web guy
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Smith
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:59 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works
Hello Richard,
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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works
Clark Propst
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Clark Propst
Sure would like to add a Kadee PS1 to my roster. Waiting for the CGW 93000 series…. Clark
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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works
Hello Richard,
The gear that you are trying to identify is an Equipco 3750 gear. This gear would NOT have been on an as built Soo Line that is the RCW kit as the earliest date of production for the 3750 is 10-1950 See my post #164782 where I copy information from Gene Green Hope this helps, Dan
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
leakinmywaders
Are the Kadee 40ft pre-1950 PS-1s molded with separate roof castings, by any chance? And might an undec kit version be available any time soon?
I ask because these would be ideal for modeling a series of NP-leased ex-LV PS-1s, rebuilt by A.A. Morrison Co., but those cars had replacement diagonal panel roofs. Chris Frissell Polson, MT
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Lloyd Keyser
Thank you very much Lloyd
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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works
Richard Remiarz
Eric,
Thanks for helping on my request for information on the brakes for the RCW Soo Line boxcar kit. Ed Hawkins emailed me yesterday off-list regarding the brake gear on the Soo Line 50’ boxcars. After several emails back and forth I have enough information to build an accurate car. A photo of the completed end is attached.
The answer is that different series used different brake gear. The two series built in 1940 used Klasing brakes. The kit includes a Klasing brake wheel. This is the brake wheel and brake gear that Resin Car Works is selling through Shapeways. The brake gear is also included with the kit. It is the brake gear just above the brake levers and underneath the coupler box.
The other two series of boxcars used Universal brake gear with a Universal M2049 brake wheel. Currently an HO M2049 brake wheel is not available. I decided to model a 1940 car so that I can use the excellent Klasing brake gear provided with the kit.
Once Frank gets back from vacation, I would be interested in knowing what brand of brake gear is represented by the brake gear included with the kit that is in-line with the brake cylinder. I am still learning about the various manufacturers of brake gear, but an trying to add the correct brake gear to my models. I’m sure I can use that casting on one of my other projects. Too many kits rely on just the Tichy AB brake set which only comes with Ajax brake gear. Kadee makes a variety of great brake wheels, but you guys are including different brake gear that makes the models even better.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz
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From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:59 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works
Rich,
I'm not 100% certain, but I think the proper brake gear housing is the one in-line with the brake cylinder and air reservoir on the resin parts sheet. I've reviewed the instructions and prototype images a couple times and that seems to be the one to use. Instructions and prototype images are posted on the kit extras page.
On page three of the first instruction PDF is an image of the kit parts with the resin detail parts sheet in the upper right corner. I think the other brake gear housing is there for another possible kit that needs the same parts details. I'll check with Frank as soon as he's back from a family vacation.
Eric Hansmann RCW web guy
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
Tony Thompson
Steve aHile wrote:
Love the collection of chalk marks! Some modelers seem to think tank cars didn't get them. Tony Thompson
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Re: Kadee early PS-1
The original Skelgas propane cars disappeared into UTLX with the rest of the Skelly fleet. But the Skelgas logo did show up on UTLX propane cars. The question is, was that used on any cars that match the Kadee model?
I know that Skelgas was used on at least one ACF built car, but it was one built during WWII and had Alan Wood steel running boards.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:14 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1
Don’t forget Warren!!
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lloyd Keyser
Hi Sam, I'm a transplant from Iowa. As they say, I got here to Texas as soon as I could. The 11000 gal propane tanks seen all over the midwest were Phill Gas and Skell Gas. I just can't use the ones I have never seen or heard of. These cars came out of Tulsa. Sure would like to see one in one of your runs. Sincerely Lloyd Keyser
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:18 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is
bill woelfel
Definitely an ATSF car, blow up the pic and you can see the cross & circle shield logo just above the corner of the truck. Also the Bx- stenciled lower right corner by the poling pocket. Bill W
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