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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Hello Richard,

The gear that you are trying to identify is an Equipco 3750 gear.

This gear would NOT have been on an as built Soo Line that is the RCW kit as the earliest date of production for the 3750 is 10-1950

See my post #164782 where I copy information from Gene Green

Hope this helps,
Dan


Re: Kadee early PS-1

leakinmywaders
 

Are the Kadee 40ft pre-1950 PS-1s molded with separate roof castings, by any chance?  And might an undec kit version be available any time soon?

I ask because these would be ideal for modeling a series of NP-leased ex-LV PS-1s, rebuilt by A.A. Morrison Co., but those cars had replacement diagonal panel roofs. 

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT 


Re: Kadee early PS-1

Lloyd Keyser
 

Thank you very much Lloyd

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:06 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

OK Guys,  If the tank cars are on our list and don’t have a complicated paint scheme we’ll eventually get around to the roads you’ve mentioned. I’ll check them out.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

Richard Remiarz
 

Eric,

 

Thanks for helping on my request for information on the brakes for the RCW Soo Line boxcar kit.  Ed Hawkins emailed me yesterday off-list regarding the brake gear on the Soo Line 50’ boxcars.  After several emails back and forth I have enough information to build an accurate car.  A photo of the completed end is attached.

 

The answer is that different series used different brake gear.  The two series built in 1940 used Klasing brakes.  The kit includes a Klasing brake wheel.  This is the brake wheel and brake gear that Resin Car Works is selling through Shapeways.  The brake gear is also included with the kit.  It is the brake gear just above the brake levers and underneath the coupler box.

 

The other two series of boxcars used Universal brake gear with a Universal M2049 brake wheel.  Currently an HO M2049 brake wheel is not available.  I decided to model a 1940 car so that I can use the excellent Klasing brake gear provided with the kit.

 

Once Frank gets back from vacation, I would be interested in knowing what brand of brake gear is represented by the brake gear included with the kit that is in-line with the brake cylinder.  I am still learning about the various manufacturers of brake gear, but an trying to add the correct brake gear to my models.  I’m sure I can use that casting on one of my other projects.  Too many kits rely on just the Tichy AB brake set which only comes with Ajax brake gear.  Kadee makes a variety of great brake wheels, but you guys are including different brake gear that makes the models even better.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

 

 

 

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From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:59 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Rich,

 

I'm not 100% certain, but I think the proper brake gear housing is the one in-line with the brake cylinder and air reservoir on the resin parts sheet. I've reviewed the instructions and prototype images a couple times and that seems to be the one to use. Instructions and prototype images are posted on the kit extras page.

 

On page three of the first instruction PDF is an image of the kit parts with the resin detail parts sheet in the upper right corner. I think the other brake gear housing is there for another possible kit that needs the same parts details. I'll check with Frank as soon as he's back from a family vacation.

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy

 

 

On 02/28/2021 5:02 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:

 

 

I am in the process of building the Resin Car Works Soo Line 50’ boxcar kit.  Two different type of brake gear are provided, but I couldn’t find any information that shows which series of cars used which brake gear.  Does  anyone have this information?

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Tony Thompson
 

Steve aHile wrote:

The original Skelgas propane cars disappeared into UTLX with the rest of the Skelly fleet.  But the Skelgas logo did show up on UTLX propane cars.  The question is, was that used on any cars that match the Kadee model?

     Love the collection of chalk marks! Some modelers seem to think tank cars didn't get them.

Tony Thompson




Re: Kadee early PS-1

Steve and Barb Hile
 

The original Skelgas propane cars disappeared into UTLX with the rest of the Skelly fleet.  But the Skelgas logo did show up on UTLX propane cars.  The question is, was that used on any cars that match the Kadee model?

 

I know that Skelgas was used on at least one ACF built car, but it was one built during WWII and had Alan Wood steel running boards.

 

 

Steve Hile

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:14 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

 

Don’t forget Warren!!

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lloyd Keyser
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 5:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

 

Hi Sam, I'm a transplant from Iowa. As they say, I got here to Texas  as soon as I could. The 11000 gal propane tanks seen all over the midwest were Phill Gas and Skell Gas. I just can't use the ones I have never seen or heard of. These cars came out of Tulsa. Sure would like to see one in one of your runs.

Sincerely Lloyd Keyser

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:18 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello STMFC,

 

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

 

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

 

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

 

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

 

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

 

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 

 

 

 

Sam Clarke

R&D / Tech Advisor / Artist

Kadee Quality Products Co.

mail@...

541-826-3883

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is

bill woelfel
 

Definitely an ATSF car, blow up the pic and you can see the cross & circle shield logo just above the corner of the  truck. Also the Bx- stenciled lower right corner by the poling pocket.  Bill W


Re: Kadee early PS-1

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Don’t forget Warren!!

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lloyd Keyser
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 5:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee early PS-1

 

Hi Sam, I'm a transplant from Iowa. As they say, I got here to Texas  as soon as I could. The 11000 gal propane tanks seen all over the midwest were Phill Gas and Skell Gas. I just can't use the ones I have never seen or heard of. These cars came out of Tulsa. Sure would like to see one in one of your runs.

Sincerely Lloyd Keyser

 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:18 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello STMFC,

 

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

 

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

 

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

 

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

 

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

 

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 

 

 

 

Sam Clarke

R&D / Tech Advisor / Artist

Kadee Quality Products Co.

mail@...

541-826-3883

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Kadee early PS-1

SamClarke
 

OK Guys,  If the tank cars are on our list and don’t have a complicated paint scheme we’ll eventually get around to the roads you’ve mentioned. I’ll check them out.

 

 

Sam Clarke

Research and Development, Kadee

(+1) 541.826.3883 | www.kadee.com

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Lloyd,

I checked the Kadee website for past and current tank cars, and doggone, you are correct, they have never done a Phil Gas or Skel Gas car.

We are rapidly closing in on our closing date for our new home - March 12, and we are starting to pack for the move.  It might be a good idea for me to visit you and return the Milwaukee Road magazines and discuss NYC/PC 52ft gondolas soon. 

My calendar is open on the following days: 3/3-3/5, 3/9-3/11, 3/16-3/18.  March 20 is our move day from the apartment to the house, so earlier is probably better.  Please let me know which day works for you, and early afternoon is probably best for me on any of these days.

Thanks, and hope you are doing well.  Got my 1st vaccine shot on Feb 20th - yippeee!

Todd




On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 5:02:02 PM CST, Lloyd Keyser <lloydkeyser@...> wrote:


Hi Sam, I'm a transplant from Iowa. As they say, I got here to Texas  as soon as I could. The 11000 gal propane tanks seen all over the midwest were Phill Gas and Skell Gas. I just can't use the ones I have never seen or heard of. These cars came out of Tulsa. Sure would like to see one in one of your runs.
Sincerely Lloyd Keyser

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:18 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello STMFC,

 

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

 

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

 

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

 

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

 

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

 

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 

 

 

 

Sam Clarke

R&D / Tech Advisor / Artist

Kadee Quality Products Co.

mail@...

541-826-3883

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Northern Pacific Box Car 12833

James E Kubanick
 

Lester,

A very nice build and blog post. I fund it very timely, too, as I am starting a build of a Sunshine NC&StL boxcar kit and will give your MEK goop methods a try as well a following other methods listed in your blog. Thanks for posting in such detail.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV.

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 5:03:53 AM EST, Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:


Lester 

That’s another fine looking build 
Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 2 Mar 2021, at 02:19, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:



I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models resin kit of Northern Pacific (NP) double-sheathed Box  Car 12833.  If you are interested in the build of this resin  kit of NP double-sheathed Box Car including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as unusual sill steps or modified Minor Ideal lever-style hand brake.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer


Re: Photo: Boxcars In 1902

John Riddell
 

Intercolonial 19472 is from a series of 84 ICR 35-foot wood boxcars absorbed by the Canadian Government Railways by 1923, and later by the CNR.

 

Also note worthy is Canada Atlantic boxcar 2217. The Grand Trunk purchased the Canada Atlantic in 1905, three years after this photo. The Grand Trunk was absorbed by the CNR in 1923.

 

John Riddell

 

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Re: Kadee early PS-1

Lloyd Keyser
 

Hi Sam, I'm a transplant from Iowa. As they say, I got here to Texas  as soon as I could. The 11000 gal propane tanks seen all over the midwest were Phill Gas and Skell Gas. I just can't use the ones I have never seen or heard of. These cars came out of Tulsa. Sure would like to see one in one of your runs.
Sincerely Lloyd Keyser

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:18 PM SamClarke via groups.io <samc=kadee.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello STMFC,

 

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

 

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

 

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

 

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

 

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

 

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 

 

 

 

Sam Clarke

R&D / Tech Advisor / Artist

Kadee Quality Products Co.

mail@...

541-826-3883

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...
 
 
Oops!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Grand Rapids & Indiana (a PRR subsidiary) class GS gondola in Brighton MA in 1918...

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Grand Rapids & Indiana (a PRR subsidiary) class GS gondola in Brighton MA in 1918...
 
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is

akerboomk
 

Looks Santa Fe to me

-       Curved map

-       “..e way” peaking out about the middle of the door


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Photo: Boxcars In 1902

Dennis Storzek
 

Interestingly, there are boxcars from Soo Line (the old LaBelle kit) and Wisconsin Central in that cut of cars... still separate railroads at that time.

Dennis Storzek


views of double sheathed boxcar GT 5555 in 1904...

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Two nearly identical views of double sheathed boxcar GT 5555 in 1904...
 
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is

Todd Sullivan
 

I would guess ATSF from the curved line map.  The truck (auto) is filled with Ruppert beer.  I can't imagine how they got into that situation.  The near end of the boxcar is off the track, so there must have been some force in the collision.  Whew!

Todd Sullivan


Image of reefer MDT 12083 in 1911

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of reefer MDT 12083 in 1911
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

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