According to Southern Railroad boxcar diagrams, Southern (CNO&TP) car numbers 262050 - 262055 had 6 ft. doors. 

 

Gary Bechdol 

Stone Mountain, Ga 

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 12:17 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Garth

?? Southern (CNO&TP) 262053 had 8 foot doors. Did Kadee make a mistake??

I see that Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet may also be mistaken. The 1953 ORER shows the
series as 262040 to 262059 for a total of 20 cars with 8 foot doors. Ed does not list the
262040 to 262049 cars.

Built in 1948, so it may have had an early PS-1 underframe.

Tim O'Connor

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On 3/2/2021 4:00 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:

Elden,

 

I bought their Southern 262053, part number 4324. It lacks the five little stiffeners under the running board, there are no ribs on the outermost roof panels, and the ends are riveted. These are all features seen on most early PS-1s. The lettering matches a photo I have from an RMJ article. The main thing I question is the black running board, which I think is Ajax. Some of the very early PS-1s had AAR underframes, but Kadee included a PS-1 underframe. I don't know which cars had which. For some reason, I don't have Ed Hawkins' roster in my collection any more to check on these things. Must track that down on the Trainlife data base.

 

I know there have been a few mistakes on some Kadee cars (no Morton running boards until recently, for example), though they do try very hard to be accurate. I am very satisfied.

 

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Tim,  we already are doing both the 6 and 7 foot door cars.  As I mentioned we are only “considering” the 8 foot door cars.

I really doubt that we’d consider the 10’ high cars as it would require tooling almost a complete new car.

 

According to Southern Railroad boxcar diagrams, Southern (CNO&TP) car numbers 262050 - 262055 had 6 ft. doors. 

Gary Bechdol 

Stone Mountain, Ga 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 12:17 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Garth

?? Southern (CNO&TP) 262053 had 8 foot doors. Did Kadee make a mistake??

I see that Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet may also be mistaken. The 1953 ORER shows the
series as 262040 to 262059 for a total of 20 cars with 8 foot doors. Ed does not list the
262040 to 262049 cars.

Built in 1948, so it may have had an early PS-1 underframe.

Tim O'Connor

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On 3/2/2021 4:00 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:

Elden,

I bought their Southern 262053, part number 4324. It lacks the five little stiffeners under the running board, there are no ribs on the outermost roof panels, and the ends are riveted. These are all features seen on most early PS-1s. The lettering matches a photo I have from an RMJ article. The main thing I question is the black running board, which I think is Ajax. Some of the very early PS-1s had AAR underframes, but Kadee included a PS-1 underframe. I don't know which cars had which. For some reason, I don't have Ed Hawkins' roster in my collection any more to check on these things. Must track that down on the Trainlife data base.

I know there have been a few mistakes on some Kadee cars (no Morton running boards until recently, for example), though they do try very hard to be accurate. I am very satisfied.

Elden,

I bought their Southern 262053, part number 4324. It lacks the five little stiffeners under the running board, there are no ribs on the outermost roof panels, and the ends are riveted. These are all features seen on most early PS-1s. The lettering matches a photo I have from an RMJ article. The main thing I question is the black running board, which I think is Ajax. Some of the very early PS-1s had AAR underframes, but Kadee included a PS-1 underframe. I don't know which cars had which. For some reason, I don't have Ed Hawkins' roster in my collection any more to check on these things. Must track that down on the Trainlife data base.

I know there have been a few mistakes on some Kadee cars (no Morton running boards until recently, for example), though they do try very hard to be accurate. I am very satisfied.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆

Hello STMFC,

That’s a pretty good list that Ben Hom gave us.

6 ft - ATSF, CGW, CIL, CMO, CNW, COPR, CP, DSS&A, KCS, LS&BC, MKT, NYC, P&WV, SOU, UP

7 ft - B&M, LV, MEC, NH

8 ft - SAL, SL-SF, SOU

Yes, they do meet our standards and we’ve produced a few of these cars already, mostly sold out though. We may or may not do the 8 ft door cars. There are a number of paint schemes and roads we can now do that we could not do before because the cars were pre 1950 cars. The pre-1950 cars have quite a number of transitioning details that are quite different than the cars built after 1950. See Ed Hawkins info as he has helped us way beyond just a thank you.

We’re planning a few more this coming year, no I can’t tell you what roads or when. 

Hello Richard,

The gear that you are trying to identify is an Equipco 3750 gear.

This gear would NOT have been on an as built Soo Line that is the RCW kit as the earliest date of production for the 3750 is 10-1950

See my post #164782 where I copy information from Gene Green

Hope this helps,
Dan