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Re: Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

More likely the box car was coupled to the end of the cut on the coal trestle.   It had been unloaded (bagged coal or maybe stoves?) when somebody tried to add another car or maybe intended to remove the empty boxcar and instead ran the gondola (which was not loaded with the box car but with coal as can be seen spilled out of its end).  The light boxcar, tipped off the end of the coal trestle, then the gon ran underneath it and with it ran down to the street.  The boxcar would not have been loaded on a shorter gondola and would have had no business on the coal trestle.  Wonder if they lowered the mess down to street level and ran the cars back to an interchange track on the streetcar line?

Looks like something I would have done in an ops session!!

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Dove
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...

 

Evidently the boxcar had been badly loaded on the gondola. not enough tie downs and they had ignored the fact it made an out of Gauge load.

 

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 14:59, Brian Termunde via groups.io <GCRDS=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Well it 'tops' the Boston & Maine! <G>

Take Care,

 

Brian R. Termunde

Midvale, Utah

 

Hi List Members,

 

Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...

 

 

Oops!

 

Claus Schlund


Re: view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

Schuyler Larrabee
 

No recognition, Jakc, but I find it interesting that each bracket on the side of that car has two holes in it, maybe to facilitate adding stakes to the sides?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jack Mullen
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 6:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

 

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 04:04 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:

Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...

 

 

Nice!
And some may also be interested in the truss-rodded flatcar still earning its keep in 1927. Steel center sills, I assume. I can only make out a few digits and parts of letters. The two level truss rods are a bit distinctive, and the queen posts seem to be a single casting for both rods.  Any recognition?

Jack Mullen


Re: ERIE boxcar and a UNION gon at Henderson, PA in 1914

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Claus, I have to agree about your resolution remark!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 6:24 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ERIE boxcar and a UNION gon at Henderson, PA in 1914

 

Hi List Members,

 

Image of ERIE boxcar and a UNION gon at Henderson, PA in 1914. One could wish for more resolution on this image...

 

 

More info at the link below...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads

Jack Mullen
 

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 04:04 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
Maybe some of us might be interested in this nice 1927 view of heavy duty flat ERIE 7206 with transformer loads coming from GE...
 
 
Nice!
And some may also be interested in the truss-rodded flatcar still earning its keep in 1927. Steel center sills, I assume. I can only make out a few digits and parts of letters. The two level truss rods are a bit distinctive, and the queen posts seem to be a single casting for both rods.  Any recognition?

Jack Mullen


ERIE boxcar and a UNION gon at Henderson, PA in 1914

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of ERIE boxcar and a UNION gon at Henderson, PA in 1914. One could wish for more resolution on this image...
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice build Bill
Fenton 


On Mar 3, 2021, at 5:16 PM, william darnaby <wdarnaby@...> wrote:



This is my completed car in a train where it stopped after the last session ended.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Clark,

 

The ladders came with the kit.  There are a number of etched brass parts in the kit including the ladders, running board end supports, and lateral running board supports.  The kit goes together very well.  The only parts I have added so far are PSC air hose brackets, Kadee 158 couplers, and Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets.  I will be able to prime this car and the other cars I am building here, but painting and decaling will have to wait until I get home. 

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

 

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Re: Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...

Philip Dove
 

Evidently the boxcar had been badly loaded on the gondola. not enough tie downs and they had ignored the fact it made an out of Gauge load.

Virus-free. www.avast.com


On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 14:59, Brian Termunde via groups.io <GCRDS=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well it 'tops' the Boston & Maine! <G>

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Hi List Members,
 
Boxcar Chicago Milwaukee & Puget Sound 203906 at an awkward moment back in 1912...
 
 
Oops!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: Kadee early PS-1

Randy Hammill
 

Hi, Sam-

To verify, CRP 10001-10500 AAR Standard hoppers match the black Kadee hopper model with Wine door locks. At some point they may have been relettered CNJ.

Thanks!

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Cardox dry ice cars

Richard Townsend
 

Does anyone know what kind of roof and what kind of ends were on the Cardox dry ice cars in the CDCX 100-122 series? I suspect diagonal panel roofs and 1/3/4 or 4/4 ends, but I'm hoping to get some authoritative information.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

william darnaby
 

This is my completed car in a train where it stopped after the last session ended.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Clark,

 

The ladders came with the kit.  There are a number of etched brass parts in the kit including the ladders, running board end supports, and lateral running board supports.  The kit goes together very well.  The only parts I have added so far are PSC air hose brackets, Kadee 158 couplers, and Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets.  I will be able to prime this car and the other cars I am building here, but painting and decaling will have to wait until I get home. 

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

 

_._,_._,_


Kadee early PS-1 (Southern with 6' door)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

Here it is, from the October 1993 RMJ. Sorry it is so small, but that's the way they often presented photos, to the irritation of some well-known authors.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


Re: Kadee early PS-1

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Tim,

You may be right. Ed's list has several listings for tiny lots, sometimes even just one car, and Southern seems to have been one of the worst for this sort of thing. Remember that many cars were purchased under a trust certificate, not unlike buying a car and having it financed by a bank. The certificate holders could sometimes demand replacement-in-kind (or something close, as with changing door sizes) for cars lost in accidents.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 12:49 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Very interesting Gary!

The 1950 ORER shows 262040-262055 with 8 foot doors. (16 cars)
The 1953 ORER shows 262040-262059 with 8 foot doors. (16 cars)
The 1955 ORER shows 262040-262059 with 8 foot doors. (20 cars)

And then!

The 1959 ORER shows 262050-262055 with 6 foot doors! Whole series now is now 10, 6, 4 (20 cars)
with 14 cars with 8 foot doors, and 6 with 6 foot doors. Also listed this way in 1963.

THEORY - Could a wreck have destroyed some cars? Or were cars swapped? The cars are from three
different orders built at different dates.

Tim O'Connor

===============================

On 3/3/2021 12:34 PM, Gary Bechdol wrote:
According to Southern Railroad boxcar diagrams, Southern (CNO&TP) car numbers 262050 - 262055 had 6 ft. doors. 

Gary Bechdol 
Stone Mountain, Ga 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 12:17 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Garth

?? Southern (CNO&TP) 262053 had 8 foot doors. Did Kadee make a mistake??

I see that Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet may also be mistaken. The 1953 ORER shows the
series as 262040 to 262059 for a total of 20 cars with 8 foot doors. Ed does not list the
262040 to 262049 cars.

Built in 1948, so it may have had an early PS-1 underframe.

Tim O'Connor

=========================================
On 3/2/2021 4:00 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Elden,

I bought their Southern 262053, part number 4324. It lacks the five little stiffeners under the running board, there are no ribs on the outermost roof panels, and the ends are riveted. These are all features seen on most early PS-1s. The lettering matches a photo I have from an RMJ article. The main thing I question is the black running board, which I think is Ajax. Some of the very early PS-1s had AAR underframes, but Kadee included a PS-1 underframe. I don't know which cars had which. For some reason, I don't have Ed Hawkins' roster in my collection any more to check on these things. Must track that down on the Trainlife data base.

I know there have been a few mistakes on some Kadee cars (no Morton running boards until recently, for example), though they do try very hard to be accurate. I am very satisfied.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Did any Milwaukee Rib Sided Cars use the Royal Brake Regulator

Eric Hansmann
 

George Toman featured the Royal brake hardware on this Resin car Works blog post from 2016.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/milwaukee-rib-side-box-car-upgrade/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Adams
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Did any Milwaukee Rib Sided Cars use the Royal Brake Regulator

 

I am currently working on a new Accurail MILW Double Door 40 foot car and it occurred to me that somewhere I had read that they used the Royal Brake Regulator cylinders and levers.

I checked all on hand available information suck as the Kindraka article on the RS and my incomplete file of Ted Culotta's Essential Freight cars but there were no tables of specialties that might have answered the question. I am primarily an SP modeler do not have an extensive collection of data on foreign road cars.  I have reviewed Lester Brewer's and George Toman's builds based on earlier versions by the the Rib Sided Car Company. I guess I should take their research which I usually assume is correct and did not show the Royal Brake regulator. 

Some time ago for some reason I purchased the Kadwell Royal Brake regulator 3D prints for a WP car project. If the MILW RS cars used the Royal Regulator parts I have to find those parts as they didn't get put with the rest of my brake system specialties. 

If anyone has a table/spreadsheet on which RR's were users of the Royal Brake regulator, I would appreciate. 

thanks 

--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: Photo: NYC Gondola 329127 (1920)

lrkdbn
 

Just wanted to say, the 1909 CBD has complete drawings of this car. Also note that the original plate ends with vertical posts have been replaced with corrugated Murphy ends. Very typical of NYC in the 20's.
Larry King


Re: Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

Richard Remiarz
 

Clark,

 

The ladders came with the kit.  There are a number of etched brass parts in the kit including the ladders, running board end supports, and lateral running board supports.  The kit goes together very well.  The only parts I have added so far are PSC air hose brackets, Kadee 158 couplers, and Intermountain 0.088” wheelsets.  I will be able to prime this car and the other cars I am building here, but painting and decaling will have to wait until I get home. 

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 

 

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From: Clark Propst
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 8:46 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line 50' boxcar kit Resin Car Works

 

Nice build so far Rich. Who’s ladders are you using?

Clark

 

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Re: Photo: NYC Gondola 329127 (1920)

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:
"Photo: NYC Gondola 329127 (1920)
A photo from the Milwaukee Public Library:

NYC 328000-329499, ex-LS&MS 51000-52499, Lot LS 86, 1,500 40 ft hopper bottom gons.


Ben Hom


Photo: NYC Gondola 329127 (1920)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NYC Gondola 329127 (1920)

A photo from the Milwaukee Public Library:

https://content.mpl.org/digital/collection/HstoricPho/id/4833/rec/13

Use the arrows and scroll to enlarge the photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: PRR Boxcar 61973 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Boxcar 61973 (Undated)

A photo from the South Wood County Historical Museum:

https://content.mpl.org/digital/collection/swch/id/165/rec/140

Use the arrows and scroll to enlarge the photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Did any Milwaukee Rib Sided Cars use the Royal Brake Regulator

Ken Adams
 

I am currently working on a new Accurail MILW Double Door 40 foot car and it occurred to me that somewhere I had read that they used the Royal Brake Regulator cylinders and levers.

I checked all on hand available information suck as the Kindraka article on the RS and my incomplete file of Ted Culotta's Essential Freight cars but there were no tables of specialties that might have answered the question. I am primarily an SP modeler do not have an extensive collection of data on foreign road cars.  I have reviewed Lester Brewer's and George Toman's builds based on earlier versions by the the Rib Sided Car Company. I guess I should take their research which I usually assume is correct and did not show the Royal Brake regulator. 

Some time ago for some reason I purchased the Kadwell Royal Brake regulator 3D prints for a WP car project. If the MILW RS cars used the Royal Regulator parts I have to find those parts as they didn't get put with the rest of my brake system specialties. 

If anyone has a table/spreadsheet on which RR's were users of the Royal Brake regulator, I would appreciate. 

thanks 

--
Ken Adams
Still in splendid Shelter In Place solitude, about half way up Walnut Creek
Owner PlasticFreightCarBuilders@groups.io


Re: whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is

Brian Carlson
 

Doesn’t matter. I’m sure someone’s insurance company paid for them. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Mar 3, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



I wonder how many cases of Ruppert disappeared that day?  I’d wager a LOT OF THEM!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 4:38 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is

 

Hi List Members,

 

I cannot quite make out whose rebuilt USRA boxcar this is, but someone will be able to nail it, especially given that there appears to be a map on the side of the boxcar

 

 

I myself am more interested in the left side of the photo which shows team tracks with overhead crane and flat cars with boiler loads found below.

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

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