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Re: BOILER LOADS

kevinhlafferty
 

Multiscale Digital also makes the finest scale model (my opinion) of the GE Turboencabulator that has ever been produced!
 


Re: Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Ken Roth
 

Thanks to Ed Hawkins and everyone who chimed in with this interesting puzzle.  Just to summarize what has been said:

1. Ed provides an airtight indentification.  Bravo!

2. I checked all my SP resources (carefully checking Tony Thompsons' SP boxcar and SP automobile car books).  There are NO SP boxcars which could have been the basis for this conversion.  One additional observation, the road number is not readable, but it does have 6 digits, which would be requisite for being a MoPac coke car.

3. The question remains HOW and WHY the car ended up on the Toledo branch in Oregon which mainly existed to service lumber industry on the branch.  As many have suggested, it is likely that the car was hijacked for transporting hog fuel from mills on the branch to the Willamette valley ("railroad west" but geographically eastbound) for heating.

This looks like it could be a great kitbash from an Accurail 36' box for all you MoPac fans, and those Espee fans clever enough to invent a story to justify its existence on their pike (sadly it won't fit mine - Siskiyou Line in So. Oregon).

I'd love to see the photo Ed mentioned from the RPCyc vol 14.  I don't own this one. 

Ken Roth


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 06:42 PM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI wrote:
Surprised to see one in service in 1961 (a year after this list’s end date). 
It does seem rather late, but CN had lots of little branchlines where they had to continue passenger service. Electric lighting of passenger cars in this service was always problematic because the cars typically didn't run fast enough to fully recharge the batteries. A lot of roads this side of the border reverted to kerosene lamps in this service, the lightweight rib side cars the Milwaukee Road built during the thirties for this sort of service were built with kerosene lamps, The CN must have thought enough of the Pintsch system to keep their gas production plant in service, and therefore needed cars to deliver to outlying terminals.

More info: http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/sdgas.Html

Dennis Storzek


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

 

Pintsch gas was use to light passenger cars at one point. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 7, 2021, at 7:47 PM, spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...> wrote:

I just discovered this photo online:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c0/fc/7d/c0fc7d934845175f17faf35fc4477561.jpg

There was no commentary that I could see.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

 

Surprised to see one in service in 1961 (a year after this list’s end date). 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:28 PM, spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik@...> wrote:

And, my heavens, the same photo shows up on Fallen Flags:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn51845jpa.jpg


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Flat Car Deck: What Color?

Bob Chaparro
 

Flat Car Deck: What Color?

I have a Tangent Scale Models HO scale GSC sixty-foot flatcar. The car is supposed to be a Santa Fe Class Ft-7.

It has a build date of 4-56 which is perfect as I model 1956. As such, I plan to very lightly weather the car.

My question is, as delivered to the Santa Fe, what color would the wood deck have been? Raw wood? Treated wood? Body color? Tangent painted the deck gray, which somehow does not seem correct.

Anyone have a definitive answer based on this class of car or known Santa Fe practice.? I’d rather avoid conjecture.

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

spsalso
 

And, my heavens, the same photo shows up on Fallen Flags:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn51845jpa.jpg


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

Lloyd Keyser
 

Pinch gas is made by the railroad and is used for non electrified coach lights. Each car has a storage tank mounted underneath  which is filled before each run. Usually  you can see a gas line down the center of the roof connecting to each of the lamps.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:47 PM spsalso via groups.io <Edwardsutorik=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I just discovered this photo online:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c0/fc/7d/c0fc7d934845175f17faf35fc4477561.jpg

There was no commentary that I could see.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

spsalso
 

I just discovered this photo online:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c0/fc/7d/c0fc7d934845175f17faf35fc4477561.jpg

There was no commentary that I could see.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: L&N Woodrack -- 4

Paul Doggett
 

Chris 

They look fine models.

Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 8 Mar 2021, at 01:28, bigfourroad <vannessco@...> wrote:

I am sorry my photos did not make it into ioGroups. Let's try that again. Here are photos of S scale SAL pulpwood cars the SAL made from flatcars with a simple addition made from used rails.  Again apologies for the pix, they were taken into a display case - fine for display but not for pix.  Chris Rooney
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Re: L&N Woodrack -- 4

bigfourroad
 

I am sorry my photos did not make it into ioGroups. Let's try that again. Here are photos of S scale SAL pulpwood cars the SAL made from flatcars with a simple addition made from used rails.  Again apologies for the pix, they were taken into a display case - fine for display but not for pix.  Chris Rooney
Chris 


Re: Rio Grande Oil Company HO decals special run

Richard Townsend
 

Rio Grande merged with Richfield in 1936. 

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2021 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rio Grande Oil Company HO decals special run


My 1938 ORER lists RGOX under Richfield Oil of California. Cars listed as RGOX are 101,102 201-255 601-606 607, 608 609-623 800, 801 802 804-810 811-815 816

Al Smith
Sonora CA
On Sunday, March 7, 2021, 05:57:49 AM PST, John Barry <northbaylines@...> wrote:


Andy,

Really cool project.  And as I model the Bay Area, I thought it would be appropriate to add a RGOX car to my fleet.  Checking the 36 and 55 tank car tariffs RGOX is in the 36, but not the 55.  When I looked at my Jan 43 and Oct 44 ORERs, RGOX is AWOL also.  Do you know when the Rio Grande tank car fleet was sold and to whom?

John

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 


Re: Rio Grande Oil Company HO decals special run

Dave Parker
 

In my 7/35 ORER, Rio Grande (RGOX) was still a stand-alone, and also in the 1936 tariff..

Ian Cranstone's on-line tabulation shows the RGOX reporting marks in use by Richfield from 7/37 to 4/38 (my 1/38 ORER agrees).

No sign of the RGOX marks in my 1/40 ORER or thereafter.

Hope this helps, but I suspect it's more likely to cause disappointment.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Rio Grande Oil Company HO decals special run

Allan Smith
 


My 1938 ORER lists RGOX under Richfield Oil of California. Cars listed as RGOX are 101,102 201-255 601-606 607, 608 609-623 800, 801 802 804-810 811-815 816

Al Smith
Sonora CA

On Sunday, March 7, 2021, 05:57:49 AM PST, John Barry <northbaylines@...> wrote:


Andy,

Really cool project.  And as I model the Bay Area, I thought it would be appropriate to add a RGOX car to my fleet.  Checking the 36 and 55 tank car tariffs RGOX is in the 36, but not the 55.  When I looked at my Jan 43 and Oct 44 ORERs, RGOX is AWOL also.  Do you know when the Rio Grande tank car fleet was sold and to whom?

John

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 


Re: Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Charlie Duckworth
 
Edited

I’ve learned something new; the photos I posted were from 40’ SS boxcars, hence the ‘Z’ bracing and not rebuilt from the 120000 series. The cars in Ed’s diagrams are the earlier 36’ DS cars and would be the car in the original photo that started this thread.   So still a Mop car just the shorter version. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: E&B Valley

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 10:54 AM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

Front Range had their own die cutter, who was somehow connected, eventually, with Intermountain, if only that he cut the dies that IM later acquired.  I spoke with him by phone once, and praised the fact that FR roofs were profiled inside and out reflecting how the panels were shaped.  He remarked that it was actually easier that way and reduced the amount of material required for the parts.

 

The toolmaker at Front Range Products (AKA Tapp Industries) was Fred Brummet (sp?). He was later one of the founding partners at Intermountain.

Fred Becker, owner of Front Range and Brummet's boss, liked to sell tooling services. They tooled the 50' PS-1 for Bill Glass, the 40' PS-1 for Bill McKean, and a GP-9 for some outfit called East Coast Models, IIRC. Becker liked to promote projects, build the tooling, run production all out of proportion to sales, then bill the customer, and take the tools back when the customer wouldn't, or couldn't pay. This is how both the GP-9 and PS-1 ended up in the Front Range product like. Eventually, Becker took the McKean name, too.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Virtual Modelers Meet

Douglas Harding
 

Yes anyone can register, for one day or both days. There is no charge. You can make a donation to help offset the costs.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Dove
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 4:02 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Virtual Modelers Meet

 

Is this event open to none NMRA members?

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 18:01, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

March 12th and 13th. Sign up at link

 

 
You need to sign up for each day separately
Clark


Re: E&B Valley

Tom Madden
 

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 03:39 PM, Stan Madyda wrote:
Yes, Robins Rails was named after his daughter. The E in E&B was for his wife Ellen.  They were located closer to White Plains than Poughkeepsie.  Bill did paint and letter Athearn cars for Bev Bel for a while.  He passed away maybe five years ago.
 
August 2013. Time passes faster than we'd like.....

Tom Madden
 


Re: E&B Valley

Stan Madyda
 

Yes, Robins Rails was named after his daughter. The E in E&B was for his wife Ellen.  They were located closer to White Plains than Poughkeepsie.  Bill did paint and letter Athearn cars for Bev Bel for a while.  He passed away maybe five years ago.
Stan Madyda


One last listing

Clark Propst
 

Good ol' GATX 1638. She's had a good run, now it's time for her to move on!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114717860829?ul_noapp=true

Clark

7161 - 7180 of 189675