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Re: Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Brian Termunde
 

These sort of errors occur in my industry as well. I work for a hotel and occasionally we find a guest who wasn't paying attention and will book for Murray KENTUCKY instead of Murray UTAH. Oops!

Ironically, just as I was typing that a misdirected guest came in, but fortunately he's staying at another one of our properties locally. 

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah


Re: Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)
From: Jim Ogden
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:36:48 PST
Maybe the coke car was lost.

One of the things that did happen with alarming frequency is a car would get misdirected. On the MoPac there was an El Dorado, Kansas and an El Dorado, Arkansas and both were in oil fields and one had a Skelly and the other a Lion Oil refinery. Both were pronounced El-Doe-RAY-doe and the team tracks would sometimes get misdirected equipment will oilfield machinery. The Kansas machinery should have been sent to Arkansas for example.

The car might have been sent to Salem, Oregon instead of Salem, Illinois for interchange. Salem, Illinois was in an area where a lot of railroads crossed. Watch someone in Oregon send it to Massachusetts next.

Jim Ogden
Argyle, Texas


Re: eBay Follies

G.J. Irwin
 

Somewhat off topic, but "on another network" there is a thread called "More eBay Follies" which is approaching 400 pages in length...

In general, I think the overall defection from eBay by model railroad sellers and buyers continues.  The vast majority of N and Z Scale listings are "Buy It Now" and a non-trivial proportion of these are "Are You Kidding" prices. 

I have been in the slow process of settling my father's estate which contained many, many assembled Athearn Blue Box kits along with similar items.  For two years running, my wife and I plastic bagged* them and sold them at a local show for between $1 and $4 each, in the "Bargain Basement" literally under the table of the more expensive items.  The principal buyers have been children and young families.  You should see the kids' eyes light up when they find out that they can get a handful of cars for less than $10 total. 

Still waiting to confront the "flipper" who snagged a Lehigh Valley "X29" (not really) which was third party painted out of that box for $2 and promptly plopped it on his table for $12.  "Hey, where's the brake wheel on that car?  I know it's not there because you bought it from me!"  Next show, it's "Grownups must bring a child under 12 years old to buy from the Bargain Basement..."  Or maybe, "You must be shorter than this table to buy anything underneath it..."

Cheers,
George Irwin

*Ready for the "bag and tag" jokes...


Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Charles Peck
 

This topic reminds me of a story I heard from back in the steam era.  The Louisville & Nashville tried to deliver two tank cars to an online consignee.  The consignee had declared bankruptcy before delivery and the shipment was refused.  The L&N tried to return the cars to the shipper but the shipper refused to accept the return.  The owner of the cars refused to accept the cars in their loaded condition so they were parked off to one side of the yard and more or less forgotten.  The contents of the cars was some sort of an acidic stuff. I never heard exactly what.
After having sat for several years, someone noticed parts of one car getting rusty and that there were no weeds within ten or fifteen yards of that car.  Clearly there was a leak.  
Being as frugal as the L&N was, after some testing, this abandoned cargo was diluted by some large factor and used as weed spray along the tracks.  Long before EPA, etc. of course. 
I cannot swear to this story as it was told to me long ago. But I rather liked it. 
Chuck Peck


On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:08 PM Paul Koehler <koehlers@...> wrote:

Tony:

 

Almost correct it was the 999 track, which only was located in the computer.  As soon as the correct location for the car was identified the car was sent to that location.

 

Paul C. Koehler

 

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Subject: Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

 

I remember former SP employee Paul Koehler telling me that at Taylor Yard in LA there was a "99" track where you put cars with problems such as missing paperwork. He remembered a depressed-center flat with a huge crate on it, that was in that category. The yard foreman said, "Put in on the 99 track, but it won't be long. Someone will be looking for that load."

Like most railroads, SP numbered yard tracks. 

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Paul Koehler
 

Tony:

 

Almost correct it was the 999 track, which only was located in the computer.  As soon as the correct location for the car was identified the car was sent to that location.

 

Paul C. Koehler

 

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Subject: Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

 

I remember former SP employee Paul Koehler telling me that at Taylor Yard in LA there was a "99" track where you put cars with problems such as missing paperwork. He remembered a depressed-center flat with a huge crate on it, that was in that category. The yard foreman said, "Put in on the 99 track, but it won't be long. Someone will be looking for that load."

Like most railroads, SP numbered yard tracks. 

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 10:42 AM, Jim Betz wrote:
  And why would you expect your operators to be any less human than
the guys on the 1-1 RRs.  *G*  
As one who likes to play the game when operating, if I was the yard crew building that train a car with no paperwork would never get on it, but be set over somewhere until the paperwork catches up. Every yard needs its version of the "99 track" for just this reason. But if I'm crewing a train that's all made up, inspected and the air test made, the car is going with rather than cause all the delay that would result from cutting it out. Let the next yard figure it out. After all, if it's lost, there's a 50-50 chance it will end up closer to its destination.


Dennis Storzek


Re: Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Tim O'Connor
 

Jim

I recall a story about a pickup in Framingham Massachusetts of a cut of cars that were
taken to Selkirk NY before someone realized they weren't supposed to go there at all...
Mistakes happened... not infrequently. :-)

Tim O'Connor

On 3/8/2021 9:36 AM, Jim Ogden wrote:
Maybe the coke car was lost.

One of the things that did happen with alarming frequency is a car would get misdirected.   On the MoPac there was an El Dorado, Kansas and an El Dorado, Arkansas and both were in oil fields and one had a Skelly and the other a Lion Oil refinery.  Both were pronounced El-Doe-RAY-doe and the team tracks would sometimes get misdirected equipment will oilfield machinery.   The Kansas machinery should have been sent to Arkansas for example.

The car might have been sent to Salem, Oregon instead of Salem, Illinois for interchange.  Salem, Illinois was in an area where a lot of railroads crossed.  Watch someone in Oregon send it to Massachusetts next.

Jim Ogden
Argyle, Texas 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: NJI&I to Wabash at Pine

al_brown03
 

There is such a place as White House Station, in (then) a rural part of New Jersey. I forget if it's on the CNJ or the Lehigh Valley.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: NJI&I to Wabash at Pine

Seth Lakin
 

The NJI&I being a local road to me, and a potential modeling interest, I can shed a little addition insight to the traffic. The agriculture implements were likely out of Oliver Farm Implements, earlier known as Oliver Chilled Plow Co. 

Seth Lakin
Michigan City IN


Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

Lloyd Keyser
 

OOPS

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 1:57 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Lloyd Keyser wrote:

Pinch gas is made by the railroad and is used for non electrified coach lights. Each car has a storage tank mounted underneath  which is filled before each run. Usually  you can see a gas line down the center of the roof connecting to each of the lamps.

The name was spelled correctly on the CN flat car: it's Pintsch gas -- though Lloyd's spelling captures the pronunciation perfectly.

Tony Thompson




Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Tony Thompson
 

I remember former SP employee Paul Koehler telling me that at Taylor Yard in LA there was a "99" track where you put cars with problems such as missing paperwork. He remembered a depressed-center flat with a huge crate on it, that was in that category. The yard foreman said, "Put in on the 99 track, but it won't be long. Someone will be looking for that load."
Like most railroads, SP numbered yard tracks. 

Tony Thompson




Re: BOILER LOADS

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

Isn’t this discussion a month (actually 23 days) early???

Being so light, what would happen if it was run on a layout in a basement pressurized to avoid having to have the llally columns supporting the house above?   Would the car float along with the helium tank cars?

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Keene via groups.io
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With a shipping weight of only 213 pounds I doubt that a flat car was required. I did notice that dimensions were not given in the handbook data … so … the Turboencabulator might be a large item of rather light material. Thinking about this … a flat car might have been necessary. 

 

Would a PC cab-forward in Utah be in pool service and running off miles to balance the sharing? 

 

Please post the photo!

 

Cheers & Giggles,

Bill Keene

Irvine, CA

 



On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

 

I have a photo of one of these on a raised-center flat car behind a Penn Central cab forward taken somewhere in Utah.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
Turboencabulator - Wikipedia

 


Re: Rio Grande Oil Company HO decals special run

Tony Thompson
 

John, given how recently (for your modeling) the Rio Grande sale to Richfield occurred, you could certainly "patch" a Rio Grande Oil paint scheme for ROX reporting marks and number.

Tony Thompson




Re: An unusual car - compressed gas

Tony Thompson
 

Lloyd Keyser wrote:

Pinch gas is made by the railroad and is used for non electrified coach lights. Each car has a storage tank mounted underneath  which is filled before each run. Usually  you can see a gas line down the center of the roof connecting to each of the lamps.

The name was spelled correctly on the CN flat car: it's Pintsch gas -- though Lloyd's spelling captures the pronunciation perfectly.

Tony Thompson




Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Bill Keene
 

Proof that railroad modeling is FUN!

Cheers,
— Bill

On Mar 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Attaboy, Bill!  Keep them on their toes.
 
Elden Gatwood
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Keene via groups.io
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A while back I purchased a Deep Rock Tangent tank car by mistake. Yes. I make my share of them because it keeps life interesting. I thought about putting this critter up for sale. But then I got to thinking … yes … that happens ever full moon … that the Deep Rock car would make a really good “lost” car. 
 
The plan is to place this orphan into the train without a waybill and see what happens. 
 
Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
 


On Mar 8, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:
 
Jim;
 
Good observations!
 
I just thought some “entertainment” was in order:  bad order cars, hot boxes, “flat” wheels (bang bang bang), shifted loads, mis-routed cars, the fun never ends!
 
I wish I never made a mistake, but more than once, people definitely got creative in avoiding dropping off hot boxes “there is a car inspector on hand, and his assistant with the oil can and cotton”.  Ah ha.
 
Burning cars I never did adequately represent, but the plan per PRR employees was to figure out what was burning (smoke visible to the cabin), stop for conference, pull forward to grade crossing, call local FD, fail to put out fire, and so on.
 
EVERYONE wanted to get rid of the offal car, so that became an unexpected priority (surprise).  Re-routing on next block NB was “expedited”.  The poor car repairman that had to crawl under in August….
 
Elden Gatwood
 
 
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Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 1:42 PM
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Subject: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)
 
Elden,
  And why would you expect your operators to be any less human than
the guys on the 1-1 RRs.  *G*  

  Your operators probably said "If Elden put it in the train it must need to
be delivered somewhere!" - because Elden NEVER makes a mistake.
  Or they might have 'gotten creative' and rolled a waybill in a carcard 
"for you" so that it made "sense" to deliver it.

  Besides - those cars just balanced out the ones they pulled and brought
back to you when the waybill clearly indicated it should stay at right where
it was.  *VBG*
                                                                                      - Jim
 



Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Attaboy, Bill!  Keep them on their toes.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Keene via groups.io
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Subject: Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

 

A while back I purchased a Deep Rock Tangent tank car by mistake. Yes. I make my share of them because it keeps life interesting. I thought about putting this critter up for sale. But then I got to thinking … yes … that happens ever full moon … that the Deep Rock car would make a really good “lost” car. 

 

The plan is to place this orphan into the train without a waybill and see what happens. 

 

Cheers,

Bill Keene

Irvine, CA

 



On Mar 8, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

 

Jim;

 

Good observations!

 

I just thought some “entertainment” was in order:  bad order cars, hot boxes, “flat” wheels (bang bang bang), shifted loads, mis-routed cars, the fun never ends!

 

I wish I never made a mistake, but more than once, people definitely got creative in avoiding dropping off hot boxes “there is a car inspector on hand, and his assistant with the oil can and cotton”.  Ah ha.

 

Burning cars I never did adequately represent, but the plan per PRR employees was to figure out what was burning (smoke visible to the cabin), stop for conference, pull forward to grade crossing, call local FD, fail to put out fire, and so on.

 

EVERYONE wanted to get rid of the offal car, so that became an unexpected priority (surprise).  Re-routing on next block NB was “expedited”.  The poor car repairman that had to crawl under in August….

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Betz
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

 

Elden,
  And why would you expect your operators to be any less human than
the guys on the 1-1 RRs.  *G*  

  Your operators probably said "If Elden put it in the train it must need to
be delivered somewhere!" - because Elden NEVER makes a mistake.
  Or they might have 'gotten creative' and rolled a waybill in a carcard 
"for you" so that it made "sense" to deliver it.

  Besides - those cars just balanced out the ones they pulled and brought
back to you when the waybill clearly indicated it should stay at right where
it was.  *VBG*
                                                                                      - Jim

 


Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Bill Keene
 

A while back I purchased a Deep Rock Tangent tank car by mistake. Yes. I make my share of them because it keeps life interesting. I thought about putting this critter up for sale. But then I got to thinking … yes … that happens ever full moon … that the Deep Rock car would make a really good “lost” car. 

The plan is to place this orphan into the train without a waybill and see what happens. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Mar 8, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Jim;
 
Good observations!
 
I just thought some “entertainment” was in order:  bad order cars, hot boxes, “flat” wheels (bang bang bang), shifted loads, mis-routed cars, the fun never ends!
 
I wish I never made a mistake, but more than once, people definitely got creative in avoiding dropping off hot boxes “there is a car inspector on hand, and his assistant with the oil can and cotton”.  Ah ha.
 
Burning cars I never did adequately represent, but the plan per PRR employees was to figure out what was burning (smoke visible to the cabin), stop for conference, pull forward to grade crossing, call local FD, fail to put out fire, and so on.
 
EVERYONE wanted to get rid of the offal car, so that became an unexpected priority (surprise).  Re-routing on next block NB was “expedited”.  The poor car repairman that had to crawl under in August….
 
Elden Gatwood
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Betz
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)
 
Elden,
  And why would you expect your operators to be any less human than
the guys on the 1-1 RRs.  *G*  

  Your operators probably said "If Elden put it in the train it must need to
be delivered somewhere!" - because Elden NEVER makes a mistake.
  Or they might have 'gotten creative' and rolled a waybill in a carcard 
"for you" so that it made "sense" to deliver it.

  Besides - those cars just balanced out the ones they pulled and brought
back to you when the waybill clearly indicated it should stay at right where
it was.  *VBG*
                                                                                      - Jim



Re: NJI&I to Wabash at Pine

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Gary,

Interesting data for a rather obscure railway. I've always been intrigued by the rather grandiously-named New Jersey, Indiana & Illinois. The line was actually built by the Singer Sewing Machine interests, and was named for the three states where Singer had plants. The line was sold to the Wabash in 1926, but retained as a separate railroad, which probably got the Wabash a bigger cut of any freight payments. For an 11-mile line the NJ&I had a pretty impressive fleet of boxcars.

Actually Sudebaker wasn't going that strong in 1953. They had serious production delays bringing new models to the market, Ford and GM were in a price war that hurt Sudebaker more than each other, and the production/sales costs of each Studebaker was much higher than comparable GM or Ford products. The next year they merged with failing Packard, which was probably the worst decision Studebaker could have made. What I consider the most beautiful car of the 1950s, the Studebaker Hawk couldn't save them, though the 1960 Lark bought them some time. Fleet sales also kept them going; California, for instance, heavily bought Studebaker autos and pick-up trucks, but the actual profit per unit must have been pretty low. I learned to drive in a 1962 Studebaker Lark, an ex-California Forestry Service car, but that's beyond our period of interest (as well as irrelevant to our discussion).

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 1:07 PM Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:
I was recently able to acquire 4 pages of "Daily Interchange Report of Cars" from the NJI&I to the Wabash at Pine, Indiana.  For those unfamiliar with the NJI&I, it was a Wabash subsidiary which ran about 11 miles from South Bend to Pine.  The following list is dated 06May53.  It is cars which were left between 11P and midnight for pick up by Eastbound Wabash Train #96.  Employee timetable shows #96 due at Pine around 3A; but a note on the report shows it due at Pine around 9A on 07May.  All cars originated at South Bend.  I am showing Initials, Number, Destination, Contents.

Looks like Studebaker was going strong in 1953!

Hope the formatting comes thru intact.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Wab  49219   Roxbury MA          Autos
LV   6234    Roxbury MA          Autos
LV   6649    Roxbury MA          Autos
Wab  49348   Bronx NY            Autos
Wab  49162   Warrensburg NY      Autos
Wab  49701   Somersville MA      Autos
Wab  49757   Mariden CT          Autos
LV   6627    Plattsburg NY       Autos
LV   6635    New Haven CT        Autos
LV   6618    Northampton MA      Autos
LV   6305    New Bedford MA      Autos
Wab  49325   Weehawken NJ        Autos
Wab  49136   Weehawken NJ        Autos
Wab  49526   Worcester MA        Autos
PM   83743   *                   Agricultural Implements
Wab  49512   Portsmouth NH       Autos
Wab  49462   Gardner Heywood MA  Autos
Wab  49120   Lynn MA             Autos
CP   294924  Presque Isle ME     Autos
CP   294984  Presque Isle ME     Autos
CP   294952  Cambridge MA        Autos
CN   662759  Detroit MI          Machinery
RDG  32202   Niagara Falls NY    --
RDG  102050  Milan NH            --
C&O  51134   Toledo OH           --
C&O  117019  Toledo OH           --

* Looks like "NY Ltge Sta NJ"
-- Empty


Re: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Jim;

 

Good observations!

 

I just thought some “entertainment” was in order:  bad order cars, hot boxes, “flat” wheels (bang bang bang), shifted loads, mis-routed cars, the fun never ends!

 

I wish I never made a mistake, but more than once, people definitely got creative in avoiding dropping off hot boxes “there is a car inspector on hand, and his assistant with the oil can and cotton”.  Ah ha.

 

Burning cars I never did adequately represent, but the plan per PRR employees was to figure out what was burning (smoke visible to the cabin), stop for conference, pull forward to grade crossing, call local FD, fail to put out fire, and so on.

 

EVERYONE wanted to get rid of the offal car, so that became an unexpected priority (surprise).  Re-routing on next block NB was “expedited”.  The poor car repairman that had to crawl under in August….

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Betz
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

 

Elden,
  And why would you expect your operators to be any less human than
the guys on the 1-1 RRs.  *G*  

  Your operators probably said "If Elden put it in the train it must need to
be delivered somewhere!" - because Elden NEVER makes a mistake.
  Or they might have 'gotten creative' and rolled a waybill in a carcard
"for you" so that it made "sense" to deliver it.

  Besides - those cars just balanced out the ones they pulled and brought
back to you when the waybill clearly indicated it should stay at right where
it was.  *VBG*
                                                                                      - Jim


Re: BOILER LOADS

Bill Keene
 

With a shipping weight of only 213 pounds I doubt that a flat car was required. I did notice that dimensions were not given in the handbook data … so … the Turboencabulator might be a large item of rather light material. Thinking about this … a flat car might have been necessary. 

Would a PC cab-forward in Utah be in pool service and running off miles to balance the sharing? 

Please post the photo!

Cheers & Giggles,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

I have a photo of one of these on a raised-center flat car behind a Penn Central cab forward taken somewhere in Utah.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
Turboencabulator - Wikipedia


Mis-routed Cars ... was Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Help Identifying Unusual Boxcar (MoPac coke service?)

Jim Betz
 

Elden,
  And why would you expect your operators to be any less human than
the guys on the 1-1 RRs.  *G*  

  Your operators probably said "If Elden put it in the train it must need to
be delivered somewhere!" - because Elden NEVER makes a mistake.
  Or they might have 'gotten creative' and rolled a waybill in a carcard
"for you" so that it made "sense" to deliver it.

  Besides - those cars just balanced out the ones they pulled and brought
back to you when the waybill clearly indicated it should stay at right where
it was.  *VBG*
                                                                                      - Jim

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