Elden,

Gary;

 

Any photos of the gons or flat cars?

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Locomotives to the USSR via Portland, OR and the SP&S

 

Paul Hobbs wrote a lengthy article in the Winter 2021 issue of The Northwest’s Own Railroad on the 200 built 2-8-0s in the 5’-0” Russian gauge delivered to SP&S for shipment to the USSR via Vladivostok  followed by 1,500 2-10-0 “kits” for assembly by Willamette Iron and Steel Company and ending with steam boilered electric power generation multi car units.

 

The carriers supplying the flat cars to the locomotive builders controlled the routing with ALCO products going via NYC, EJE, CBQ, GN, SPS.  NYC used their flatcars numbered 499213, 499346, 499778, 499136, 499260 and 499676 hauled a shipment of 8 2-8-0s.  All were 52’-6” flatcars of 140,000 lbs. capacity.  Shipments of locomotives from Baldwin were routed PRR, CB&Q to the S. Paul connections.  The decapod kits were shipped on 3 flat cars and the dock area was regauged to 5’-0” to hold them awaiting freighters.  The article notes that ships to Vladivostok did not travel in convoys and were regularly inspected by the Imperial Japanese Navy at sea.   

 

The electric power plants were in 3-car, 8-car and 10-car units.  The ten car consist had two locomotive boiler cars, two coal tenders, one turbine, one condenser, one switch gear car, three cooling water tower cars, one maintenance and crew quarters car,   The units were built by Westinghouse, GE and ACF with Russian couplers  (requiring two PRR gondolas as converter cars)and spare Russian gauge trucks to be added at the port.    The first 10-car power train was routed ACF Berwick, DLW, NKP, CBQ, NP, SPS.  While the first train was allowed to move at 40 mph, all those that followed were limited to 25 mph.   The trains also included up to 6 cars of parts plus the replacement trucks.

 

Other routings included ACK Berwick, DLW, NYC, CNW, NP SPS with gondolas used including PMCKY 92323, 91587, RDG 23964, PLE 43777, 48581 and THB (! )2217. 

 

This is a meaty issue of the SP&S quarterly. 

 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

any particular reason, that the 2-8-0's were shipped built from the factory,

Paul Hobbs wrote a lengthy article in the Winter 2021 issue of The Northwest’s Own Railroad on the 200 built 2-8-0s in the 5’-0” Russian gauge delivered to SP&S for shipment to the USSR via Vladivostok  followed by 1,500 2-10-0 “kits” for assembly by Willamette Iron and Steel Company and ending with steam boilered electric power generation multi car units.

 

The carriers supplying the flat cars to the locomotive builders controlled the routing with ALCO products going via NYC, EJE, CBQ, GN, SPS.  NYC used their flatcars numbered 499213, 499346, 499778, 499136, 499260 and 499676 hauled a shipment of 8 2-8-0s.  All were 52’-6” flatcars of 140,000 lbs. capacity.  Shipments of locomotives from Baldwin were routed PRR, CB&Q to the S. Paul connections.  The decapod kits were shipped on 3 flat cars and the dock area was regauged to 5’-0” to hold them awaiting freighters.  The article notes that ships to Vladivostok did not travel in convoys and were regularly inspected by the Imperial Japanese Navy at sea.   

 

The electric power plants were in 3-car, 8-car and 10-car units.  The ten car consist had two locomotive boiler cars, two coal tenders, one turbine, one condenser, one switch gear car, three cooling water tower cars, one maintenance and crew quarters car,   The units were built by Westinghouse, GE and ACF with Russian couplers  (requiring two PRR gondolas as converter cars)and spare Russian gauge trucks to be added at the port.    The first 10-car power train was routed ACF Berwick, DLW, NKP, CBQ, NP, SPS.  While the first train was allowed to move at 40 mph, all those that followed were limited to 25 mph.   The trains also included up to 6 cars of parts plus the replacement trucks.

 

Other routings included ACK Berwick, DLW, NYC, CNW, NP SPS with gondolas used including PMCKY 92323, 91587, RDG 23964, PLE 43777, 48581 and THB (! )2217. 

 

This is a meaty issue of the SP&S quarterly. 

 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock