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Undated view of SRDX 410 tank in color

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Undated view of SRDX 410 tank in color
 
 
More details at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Undated view of two compartment tank car CPV 101 (Cook Paint and Varnish)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Undated color view of two compartment tank car CPV 101 (Cook Paint and Varnish)
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233

Ian Cranstone
 

The word at the upper left of the reefer appears to be “CHICAGO”, and based upon a listing in the January 1910 ORER, I think we’re likely looking at a car listed by the Chicago Refrigerator Car Co., which apparently also used the name Chicago Refrigerator Despatch – which would account for the “D” in the reporting mark – and the part letter peeking out from behind the pole and noise appears to be an “R” (the ORER does not give a reporting mark or any stencilling information for this operator). The car number in the photo is 9_55, which is also consistent with the 9000-series cars given in the ORER listing.

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

lamontc@...

http://freightcars.nakina.net


On Mar 25, 2021, at 4:48 PM, ROGER HINMAN via groups.io <rhinman11@...> wrote:

Anyone want to guess on the reporting marks of the reefer in back of the GT car??? My poor eyesight guesses the last letter is D which could possible be SFRD

On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233
A phot from the Digital Commonwealth website:
Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge the photo.
Undated.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


1896 view of box cars, coal cars, and a tank car ay Solvay Process Co works Syracuse (Solvay) NY

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
1896 view of box cars, coal cars, and a tank car ay Solvay Process Co works Syracuse (Solvay) NY
 
 
Note that every boxcar has its door fully open, some have doors on both sides open.
 
Of note, the boxcar at the leftmost end of the image, above the field of flowers, appears to have two doors on each side of the car.
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


undated view at Syracuse NY of CNJ 11582 ds box and a LS&MS gon

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
An undated view at Syracuse NY of CNJ 11582 ds box and a LS&MS gon
 
 
More info can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


EMPIRE LINE boxcar associated with the PRR system, view dated 1907

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
While I am not 100% sure, I suspect this is an EMPIRE LINE boxcar associated with the PRR system, view dated 1907
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund

 


Re: Home Road Refrigerator Car M&N 9299

O Fenton Wells
 

Nicely done Lester. Thanks for sharing 
Fenton 


On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:



I have converted a Pacific Fruit Express (PFE) Refrigerator Car into a Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company Refrigerator due to need.  The conversion  included adding a respectable missing underframe, and replacing or upgrading other parts in or not in the kit and of course new lettering.  If you are interested in the conversion, photos and writeup of the process including painting, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

 

Lester Breuer

 


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION

George Eichelberger
 

Bruce is certainly correct! The PRR had 227,881 freight cars service in 1942 (see attached for all railroads from the SRHA archives), no other road comes close. PRR cars would have been everywhere.

Ike



Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

David Soderblom
 

I have to wonder if the boat specs were to fit standard gons, given how snug they are in width and length.  No use building boats that you can’t ship.


David Soderblom
Baltimore MD




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David Soderblom
Baltimore MD
david.soderblom@...


Home Road Refrigerator Car M&N 9299

Lester Breuer
 

I have converted a Pacific Fruit Express (PFE) Refrigerator Car into a Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company Refrigerator due to need.  The conversion  included adding a respectable missing underframe, and replacing or upgrading other parts in or not in the kit and of course new lettering.  If you are interested in the conversion, photos and writeup of the process including painting, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

 

Lester Breuer

 


Re: Vallejo paint

Robert kirkham
 

I’ll add a couple of minor thoughts: 
- Vallejo says it can be mixed by rolling the bottle back and forth between the palms for at least 60 seconds.  I find this quick and easy. 
- I usually put the paint into a small bottle or dish, add a bit of air brush thinner.  Doing it this way, you can see if a bottle has gone bad (rare) before it goes in the airbrush cup.
- I pour into the cup, do a test pattern, and spray at about 15 pounds of pressure (a tip from the internet).  
- I have a 3 gallon bucket of water with dish soap standing buy.  If I mess up, the model goes into the water immediately.  I also use the bucket to clean the airbrush.
- I spray more air brush cleaner through to do a final clean up.  If it is stubborn, a bit of alcohol in the cup and sprayed through will clean it up.  Isopropyl is not good for the gaskets in the airbrush, etc, but I use it in a pinch.  I’ll occasionally disassemble and use isopropyl to clean parts that have dried on paint.   

For brush painting, wow, is this stuff forgiving.  I dip the paint brush in airbrush thinner to moisten (not soak) it a bit before painting.  Makes clean up easier later on.  I usually mix a few drops on a bit of plastic or tin foil, and brush it on the model.  A small puddle goes a long way.  Running out has never been a problem; just mix some more and brush it on.  The overlap?  Well, it's invisible to my eye.  So easy makes me wonder why I bother with the airbrush.  But the airbrush gives a thinner coat.

Down side: it turns to stretchy rubber if you apply a wash thinned with turpentine.  That was a bad day!

Rob

On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above.  Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon.  There are two Vallejo paint  types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned.  Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top.   thinning:  I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon.  Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint.  The beauty of the eye drop top.  Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying.  I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon.  If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready.  For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint.  I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time.  Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying.  On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct.  Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.

And, one key to Vallejo paint and thinner spray mix is needle size and air pressure.  The larger the needle size the better and air pressure 24 lbs or lower.  BTW when I started with water base paint I started with the Paasche H.   Now Passache Talon with #3 needle or Badger Patriot which has only one needle size.

Lester Breuer


Re: WTB DTA Steel side GS gondola Kits

Bryian Sones
 

Thanks for the Replies. I have all that I need at this point.



Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 04:35:42 PM PDT, Bryian Sones <bryian.sones@...> wrote:


Please PM me if you would like to sell.

Thank You,

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

Ralph W. Brown
 

Garth, et al.,
 
Could motor surf boats, which in my day were 25 or 26 feet or so.  The USCG motor lifeboats used in my time, 1960s and ‘70s, were 44 footers (and a pair of 52 footers that were used in the Pacific northwest).
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 6:59 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas
 
Friends,
 
The larger vessels appear to be 38' patrol boats. I don't know when these first went into service, but they were still being built as late as 1944. Later they would have been renumbered into the 38XXX series.
 
I am stumped by the smaller boats. They look a bit like the 36' motor lifeboat (Glencoe Models still offers the old Revell O-scale kit), but I can't see two of them fitting into a 50-footish gondola. More likely they are a similar but shorter boat.
 
I remember seeing one of the last 36' boats when I was stationed in Alameda in the nud-1970s. It was probably at Station Yerba Buena Island, and was out of service by then, perhaps being held for preservation. The standard small search-and-rescue boat by then was a 41' model with a single cabin just forward of amidships, with a large sunken open deck behind. I once lost my breakfast on one of these boats between the Channel Islands and Oxnard.
 
Coast Guard small boats have not been well documented in publicly available materials. When I was in the service, Coast Guard units including District headquarters where I served (public affairs) were not allowed to hold historical materials. It was all supposed to go to the National Archives, but more often went right into the dumpster. I was able to save valuable historical lighthouse negatives, but was ordered to send them to Headquarters for forwarding to the National Archives. I did make prints first though, and still have a few copy negatives I made for my own interest.
 
Named Coast Guard Cutters are much better documented.
 
Yours Aye,
 
 
Garth Groff (for CG Photojournalist 1st Class)
 
 
 
 
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:16 PM lrkdbn via groups.io <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

When I opened this it came up titled "leaving for 1937 flood zone"
Note the archbar trucks still on the PRR gon
Larry King

 

 


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

Knowing that you have been on this list for a while, I am flummoxed by your PRR gondola comment, unless perhaps it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek?

PRR gondolas were common, nationwide. They don't even constitute an "oddity" for the SP. Now, I do note that your gondola has a load of hopper-bottom containers, which were typically used for mineral delivery. While less likely than the car to wander off-line, there would certainly be a rationale for those containers to be on SP, as they might be delivering particular mineral product in these containers. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
 Yeah!  Now I can justify my NKP hopper on the SP.  If only I could do that for the Pennsy gondola.

Bill Pardie

BillNow if I could just do that for the ._,_WHIL


Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

james murrie
 

The January 1937 floods were along the Ohio River. Among the rail traffic interrupted was the train carrying the second shipment of gold bullion to the newly opened depository at Fort Knox KY.
Jim Murrie


Re: Vallejo paint

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

A while back there was a modeling article on the 10 best tools for modeling.  One of the ten was the small battery operated mixer from Microsoft Mark.
Right they were.  It is one of my most used tools..I keep several at the ready.

Incidents another forgotten item for mixing paint is an ultrasonic cleaner.

Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
Date: 3/25/21 12:59 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint

Good advice from an avid Vallejo user. However, I will occasionally mix paint with thinner in the cup for small paint jobs, but only with lacquers or enamels, never acrylics. I put the thinner into the cup first, so I know exactly how much I have, then add the paint to achieve approximately 3 parts paint and one part thinner. I use the tip of the plastic disposable pipette to stir and mix by aspiration a few times. Works just fine.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint

 

Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above.  Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon.  There are two Vallejo paint  types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned.  Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top.   thinning:  I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon.  Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint.  The beauty of the eye drop top.  Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying.  I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon.  If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready.  For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint.  I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time.  Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying.  On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct.  Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.

And, one key to Vallejo paint and thinner spray mix is needle size and air pressure.  The larger the needle size the better and air pressure 24 lbs or lower.  BTW when I started with water base paint I started with the Paasche H.   Now Passache Talon with #3 needle or Badger Patriot which has only one needle size.

Lester Breuer


Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

The larger vessels appear to be 38' patrol boats. I don't know when these first went into service, but they were still being built as late as 1944. Later they would have been renumbered into the 38XXX series.

I am stumped by the smaller boats. They look a bit like the 36' motor lifeboat (Glencoe Models still offers the old Revell O-scale kit), but I can't see two of them fitting into a 50-footish gondola. More likely they are a similar but shorter boat. 

I remember seeing one of the last 36' boats when I was stationed in Alameda in the nud-1970s. It was probably at Station Yerba Buena Island, and was out of service by then, perhaps being held for preservation. The standard small search-and-rescue boat by then was a 41' model with a single cabin just forward of amidships, with a large sunken open deck behind. I once lost my breakfast on one of these boats between the Channel Islands and Oxnard.

Coast Guard small boats have not been well documented in publicly available materials. When I was in the service, Coast Guard units including District headquarters where I served (public affairs) were not allowed to hold historical materials. It was all supposed to go to the National Archives, but more often went right into the dumpster. I was able to save valuable historical lighthouse negatives, but was ordered to send them to Headquarters for forwarding to the National Archives. I did make prints first though, and still have a few copy negatives I made for my own interest.

Named Coast Guard Cutters are much better documented.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff (for CG Photojournalist 1st Class)




On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:16 PM lrkdbn via groups.io <lrkdbn=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

When I opened this it came up titled "leaving for 1937 flood zone"
Note the archbar trucks still on the PRR gon
Larry King

 

 


Re: Vallejo paint

Nelson Moyer
 

Good advice from an avid Vallejo user. However, I will occasionally mix paint with thinner in the cup for small paint jobs, but only with lacquers or enamels, never acrylics. I put the thinner into the cup first, so I know exactly how much I have, then add the paint to achieve approximately 3 parts paint and one part thinner. I use the tip of the plastic disposable pipette to stir and mix by aspiration a few times. Works just fine.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint

 

Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above.  Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon.  There are two Vallejo paint  types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned.  Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top.   thinning:  I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon.  Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint.  The beauty of the eye drop top.  Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying.  I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon.  If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready.  For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint.  I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time.  Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying.  On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct.  Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.

And, one key to Vallejo paint and thinner spray mix is needle size and air pressure.  The larger the needle size the better and air pressure 24 lbs or lower.  BTW when I started with water base paint I started with the Paasche H.   Now Passache Talon with #3 needle or Badger Patriot which has only one needle size.

Lester Breuer


Fw: Aw: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION

vapeurchapelon
 

Oops, this wasn't meant to go to the group, but I hope it won't be a problem...
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post war years - now up to about 1954
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 um 23:30 Uhr
Von: J.Markwart@...
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Aw: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
Victory! :-)
Great pics, many thanks. A single car (at least if it's not that much a really special car type) is not much of a problem for me - I have two general rules: 1. never say never!, 2. (too) many exceptions are not exceptionally accurate modeling.
PRR cars were everywhere! :-) Again: -a single car - no problem (I guess)!
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 um 18:43 Uhr
Von: "WILLIAM PARDIE" <PARDIEW001@...>
An: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
 Yeah!  Now I can justify my NKP hopper on the SP.  If only I could do that for the Pennsy gondola.
 
Bill Pardie
 
BillNow if I could just do that for the ._,_WHIL
 


Re: REDEMPTION

vapeurchapelon
 

Victory! :-)
Great pics, many thanks. A single car (at least if it's not that much a really special car type) is not much of a problem for me - I have two general rules: 1. never say never!, 2. (too) many exceptions are not exceptionally accurate modeling.
PRR cars were everywhere! :-) Again: -a single car - no problem (I guess)!
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 um 18:43 Uhr
Von: "WILLIAM PARDIE" <PARDIEW001@...>
An: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
 Yeah!  Now I can justify my NKP hopper on the SP.  If only I could do that for the Pennsy gondola.
 
Bill Pardie
 
BillNow if I could just do that for the ._,_WHIL
 

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