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Re: Trio of UP tank cars...

Tim O'Connor
 


I don't know much about UP tank cars but these appear to be rebuilds (old tank
on a new underframe?). It's just a guess, but they are 4-course tanks and have the
open-grid walkways that became mandated for new tank cars in the 1940's.

Tim O'Connor


On 3/27/2021 3:16 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Trio of UP tank cars...
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SP 30251 gon in 1979

Tim O'Connor
 


G-50-21A built by ACF in 1949 (the "A" indicating a rebuilt car that received steel sides)

These were "War Emergency" design gondolas bought by the THOUSANDS by the T&NO
and they lasted a long time. Funaro & Camerlengo makes this kit, but they only market the
rebuilt cars as ACL. Go figure.

Tim O'Connor



On 3/27/2021 3:28 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Altho the image was taken in 1979, this gon must have been around during out time period of interest...
 
SP 30251 gon in 1979
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: M&Pa X41 tool car 40ft ss box in color

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Thanks James - who would have thought! What a lifetime for a boxcar!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] M&Pa X41 tool car 40ft ss box in color

Hi Claus,

This is Ma & Pa X-11, not X-41. X-11 was built in 1927 as NJI&I 78103. The Ma & Pa received it in 1956 and kept it on the roster until 1983. It still exists at the Maryland & Pennsylvania Railroad Preservation Society in Muddy Creek Forks, Pa. The NJI&I reporting marks are still legible on the interior of the car.

All the best,

James

=-=-=

James McDonald
Greenbelt, Maryland







Re: NWX #19954 Box Car DRI Protecto Car - reefer? Insulated boxcar?

Tim O'Connor
 


AAR class RB - also Rock Island (CRIX) and Archer Daniels Midland (ADMX)

I've attached a Mike Sosalla photo of a Rock Island car.

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On 3/27/2021 11:44 AM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
NWX #19954 Box Car DRI Protecto Car - reefer? Insulated boxcar?
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: M&Pa X41 tool car 40ft ss box in color

James McDonald
 

Hi Claus,

This is Ma & Pa X-11, not X-41. X-11 was built in 1927 as NJI&I 78103. The Ma & Pa received it in 1956 and kept it on the roster until 1983. It still exists at the Maryland & Pennsylvania Railroad Preservation Society in Muddy Creek Forks, Pa. The NJI&I reporting marks are still legible on the interior of the car.

All the best,

James

=-=-=

James McDonald
Greenbelt, Maryland


Re: Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

Chris Barkan
 

Here is an ebay image of SP 615200 with its doors shut providing a more complete view of its exterior.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/183141984253_/Original-Slide-Southern-Pacific-SP-615200-Hy-Cube-Boxcar.jpg

SP Freight Car Specification Sheet No. 17 Hydra Cushion Hy-Cube Box Cars describes in more detail the cars that succeeded the original Whitehead & Kales car.  It can be found, along with several of the car series and dimensions, here:
https://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?96312-Suggestions-for-Jointed-Rail-(Not-Locomotives)/page30&styleid=7

Given the date of this car's manufacture, further discussion of this thread should probably move over to the Baby Boomers https://groups.io/g/bbfcl and Modern Freight car https://groups.io/g/MFCL groups

I think that the info stating "1955" in the Arizona Memory Project must be a typo. Nevertheless, I enjoyed learning about this car and thank Bob for asking the initial question that started this thread.
--
Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Re: Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

kevinhlafferty
 

I believe this may actually be SP 615200 a B-70-18. It was a one car class built by Whitehead and Kales in 1963 and was the fore-runner of SPs 86’ Hy Cube cars. A bit of a rarity.

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-18.htm

 

Kevin Lafferty

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 3:11 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

 

Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

A photo from the Arizona Memory Project:

https://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/digital/collection/histphotos/id/20701/rec/3

This photo can be enlarged.

Description says this was taken in 1955. Accurate or too early for this car?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: C&S 15155 and another slab side ballast hopper doing what they were built to do

kevinhlafferty
 

Snap track! And it even has a broken tie.

 

Kevin Lafferty

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 2:11 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&S 15155 and another slab side ballast hopper doing what they were built to do

 

Hi List Members,

 

Nice image showing C&S 15155 and another slab side ballast hopper doing what they were built to do...

 

 

More info at the link below...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund


Re: INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar

mel perry
 

not in its present condition, no brakes,
no.reporting.marks, damage to the side
door frame, it looks like this thing is
sitting on either a deadline or a rip track
;-)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 12:07 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
It is unclear to me if this INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar would have gotten around in interchange or not...
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Looking for O Scale Intermountain Reefer Kit instructions

William Hirt
 

I just had a friend call me and he has been given an Intermountain O Scale reefer kit to assemble. It is factory painted BREX. The kit has no instruction sheet(s). Does anyone have any of these reefer kits so that they could scan and send me the instructions? I can then print them out for him.

Many thanks,

Bill Hirt


Re: INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar

william darnaby
 

The IR did so some interchange with the Monon south of Greencastle where its cars would be given to the Monon for delivery to the very nearby cement works.  These cars would be immediately returned to the IR for delivery to some customer on its system.  There is a photo of this on page 51 in the IR book by Bradley.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 2:40 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar

 

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:07 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:

It is unclear to me if this INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar would have gotten around in interchange or not...

 

Not legal for interchange on the general rail system, but it is built to the specifications to allow interchange on Central Electric Railroad Association member roads, so could likely be seen on any interurban in Indiana or Ohio.  The Indiana Railroad was abandoned in 1941 on the eve of WWII, and by this late date there were no surviving connections.

Dennis Storzek


Re: INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Claus,

Doubtful, and certainly not by the date of this photo. It lacks proper lettering required for interchange. It also lacks an air brake hose, and no retainer valve and pipe, so it probably has only hand brakes.

Cars like these were not uncommon on electric lines, particularly in the midwest. They were especially designed to go around super-tight street railway curves. Few were ever used in interchange. Usually they were in freight-house to urban customer service, or freight-house to freight-house service on some of the larger interurbans. Motor trucks pretty much doomed them by the 1930s.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:07 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
It is unclear to me if this INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar would have gotten around in interchange or not...
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: INDIANA RAILROAD 147 ds trussrod boxcar

Peter Weiglin
 

This was an interurban freight car, equipped with radial swing couplers to take the intereurbans' tight curves.
Yes, it could have been interchanged, and likely was, but only with other electric railway lines.


Re: Mystery car - WABUSH LAKE? Any ideas?

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Claus,


Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:52 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Mystery car - WABUSH LAKE? Any ideas?
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

Marc Truitt
 

If I'm correctly reading the road number on the car end, it appears to be SP 615200, built by Whitehead & Kales in early 1963.  These cars are treated at length in Anthony Thompson's SP Freight Cars, vol. 4.

One thing that leaves me a bit confused is that the pictures of this car in Thompson's book appear to show it lacking a roof walk, both at the builder (pg. 446) and early in its service life in 1965 (pg. 444).  But in the link posted to the list, it has a roof walk.  Perhaps I'm missing something... or misreading the car number?

Anyway, to answer the question, 1955 is too early for this car.

Marc Truitt
Sackville, NB (Canada)


Re: Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

Bill Decker
 

Too modern for this list.  From the RailGoat's excellent coverage of SP freight cars:

A roster of the B-70-18 class box cars is provided as follows:

	SP 615200

This box car was the prototype for SP's future orders of 86' auto parts box cars. It was built in 1963 by Whitehead and Kales and featured 86'-5" inside length, two seperate sets of 20' Youngstown plug doors, cushion underframes, bulkheads and 10000 ft3 capacity.


Bill Decker
McMinnville, Oregon


Re: Mystery car - WABUSH LAKE? Any ideas?

earlyrail
 


Re: 1972 image of CN 428426 40ft ss boxcar Bethlehem PA

Ian Cranstone
 

This is a CN 1929 standard boxcar, built as the CN 503500-513152 series between 1929 and 1931 (this particular example was built in April 1930, which narrows the source car series somewhat to 505851-510352).

A large number of these cars were renumbered to 426000-429999 circa 1970, and this particular car would be placed on narrow gauge trucks and renumbered 4726 for service in Newfoundland in March 1975.

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

lamontc@...

http://freightcars.nakina.net


On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
1972 image of CN 428426 40ft ss boxcar Bethlehem PA
 
 
More info at the link below...
 


Re: Mystery car - WABUSH LAKE? Any ideas?

Ian Cranstone
 

This looks to be a CN 1923 standard boxcar (CN 500500-503499, built from 1923 to 1927). A number of these cars found their way to the Quebec, North Shore & Labrador around 1960. I have no information about Wabush, which may have acquired their own, or one of the QNS&L cars.

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

lamontc@...

http://freightcars.nakina.net


On Mar 27, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
Mystery car - WABUSH LAKE? Any ideas?
 
 
More info at the link below...
 


Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Hi-Cube Boxcar (1955)

A photo from the Arizona Memory Project:

https://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/digital/collection/histphotos/id/20701/rec/3

This photo can be enlarged.

Description says this was taken in 1955. Accurate or too early for this car?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

9801 - 9820 of 192760