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Re: Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

mopacfirst
 

I'll be by there next week, those vertical cylinder structures (grain?) look very familiar.  I did just realize that you can see the Tarrant County courthouse in this photo, which you can't do now because of all the buildings in the way.  It's easily a full mile from this locale to there.

Interesting that there is a B&O wagon-top box in this photo also.  One-half of one sat in this yard for years in the sixties-seventies as a building.  

Ron Merrick


Re: Tichy wheel car

mopacfirst
 

There was one called Japanese black.  Normally it came off with mineral spirits, but it was eventually reformulated with something that was almost impervious to solvents and almost needed to be taken off with a grinder.  Fine for buttweld ends of piping, but not so good for machined surfaces.

Ron Merrick


Re: Tichy wheel car

Tom Palmer
 

Hi Lloyd,

                The common rust inhibitor used for decades was Cosmoline. Not sure if it is still in use today.

 

Regards,

            Tom Palmer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lloyd Keyser
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 11:25 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tichy wheel car

 

You are right Dennis. Friction bearing surfaces were protected from weather until used at the RIP with a liquid applied black coating (can't remember the name of it) applied after new wheels were applied to the axles. This was removed before installing in the truck frame. This was obviously not necessary when shipped  with a roller bearing applied. Lloyd Keyser 

 

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:20 AM Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 04:29 AM, Ray Hutchison wrote:

It would seem that most layouts/maintenance yards should have one or more of these.

Actually, wheel cars tended to congregate around the wheel shop where turning and mounting wheels was done. The cars would more or less run a regularly scheduled route, bringing new and reconditioned wheels out to locations with RIP tracks and bringing their old wheels back for reconditioning or scrapping. Wheels weren't typically stored on the car.

Dennis Storzek


Re: 1/4" Scale Mid-Century Composite Boxcar

Schuyler Larrabee
 

In the future, historians and modelers will be
exchanging speculation about the exact location of
this marvelous photograph of these two prototype
cars. They will be eternally frustrated by this.

Gene, your modeling is beyond compare.

Schuyler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
<main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Deimling
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 2:52 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] 1/4" Scale Mid-Century
Composite Boxcar

My scratch building project to create a replica of
the Northern Pacific 9480 boxcar series is done.
I built the car from Evergreen styrene except for
the ends salvaged off an Intermountain AAR boxcar.
I was fortunate enough to have Lee Turner paint
and weather the car. He used a custom Rick Leach
decal set to finish the car off.

Gene Deimling


Re: Photo: Cement Plant Equipment Load

Clark Propst
 

Yes, possibly kiln shell sections

Clark Propst


Re: 1/4” Scale Mid-Century Composite Boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

Marvelous modeling -- shows what can be done in O scale. Good one, Gene!

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: 1/4” Scale Mid-Century Composite Boxcar

James Brewer
 

Beautiful work Gene!

Jim Brewer


Re: Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List members,
 
I believe there is a PRR class R50b express reefer immediately to the right of locomotive 1955, under the vertical cylinder structures. These cars got around!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Roe
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

Bob,

Wabash car is 76000 series.  Can't make out last 3 digits.

Photo taken at Fort Worth ATSF Station, in background to left.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 11:34:04 AM CDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

A photo from the University of Texas-Arlington Archives:

https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20091771

Click on the photo twice to fully enlarge it.

Circa 1947. Car number is not apparent.

A B&O wagon-top boxcar also is shown.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: 1/4” Scale Mid-Century Composite Boxcar

Rufus Cone
 

Gene,
Your model building, with Rick's decals and Lee's paint and weathering, captures the prototype with amazing fidelity.
The black and white image - like most of those we have for reference - really shows off the excellence of this model
Rufus Cone


1/4” Scale Mid-Century Composite Boxcar

Gene Deimling
 

My scratch building project to create a replica of the Northern Pacific 9480 boxcar series is done.
I built the car from Evergreen styrene except for the ends salvaged off an Intermountain AAR boxcar.
I was fortunate enough to have Lee Turner paint and weather the car. He used a custom Rick Leach decal set to finish the car off.

Gene Deimling


Re: Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

mopacfirst
 

One more thing:

There is a Frisco RPO-coach on the second track in from the track where the switcher is working in the coachyard.

Ron Merrick


Re: Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

mopacfirst
 

Gary Roe is correct.  To be more specific, this photo looks more or less due north, and downtown Fort Worth is in the distance on the left.  The 1899 Santa Fe station still exists, and it's now the 'event space' for the Ashton Hotel, which is not visible in this shot since it's only six stories tall..  It started its life as the Fort Worth Club.  There is a hotel visible in the distance just to the right of the station's roof, which is the Fort Worth Hilton now.

Ron Merrick


Re: Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

Jim Betz
 

 ... plus 3 steamers, a caboose, a diesel and no less than 18 guys ... nice photo!

  Anyone know where in Texas this ATSF location is?
                                                                                                       - Jim


Re: Buckeye box car ends?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I am pretty sure that one of the private low-volume resin casters offers these ends.  I’m having trouble summoning up the name I want to offer.  Maybe Chad Boas?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ed_mines via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Buckeye box car ends?

 

That's an expensive car to cut up. It's a very nice car on it's own. Every so often you'll find one for sale on ebay.
Redball had both plastic and metal versions of a Buckeye end. I don't know if that's exactly the one you need.
Years ago Roller Bearing sold an epoxy version of a Buckeye end. 
Sunshine had a kit for the exact car you want to model.
Ed Mines
 


Re: Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

Gary Roe
 

Bob,

Wabash car is 76000 series.  Can't make out last 3 digits.

Photo taken at Fort Worth ATSF Station, in background to left.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 11:34:04 AM CDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

A photo from the University of Texas-Arlington Archives:

https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20091771

Click on the photo twice to fully enlarge it.

Circa 1947. Car number is not apparent.

A B&O wagon-top boxcar also is shown.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Door opening size on an LV 8500 series Automobile box

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I think the two doors are in fact the same width, in part because of the simplification of inventory for the railroads (Not just the LV).  “Oh, yeah, we need to get more 7’-6” doors, plenty of 8’ doors on hand but we need the narrower doors too , , ,”

 

I doubt that.

 

What Steve discovered below might have something to do with the entire door opening dimension question.  Are you measuring the NET door opening, or the opening in the steel side of the car?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Door opening size on an LV 8500 series Autombile box

 

Bud,

 

I still not convinced that the left hand door isn’t the same width as the main/right hand door.  Nevertheless, the doors are somewhat wider than the clear opening in order to completely cover the opening.

 

And something that I hadn’t known before is shown in this figure from the 1940 CBC

 

 

What surprised me was the center beam that moves with the left hand door and, essentially restricts the clear opening by about 6”.

 

To answer your overall question, I doubt that anyone would flinch is you used two 8 foot doors to cover the opening.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bud Rindfleisch
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:52 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Door opening size on an LV 8500 series Autombile box

 

Thanks for all the information on the LV 50' double door auto boxes. If that door opening is15' and the doors are what appears to be equal width, my next question is....was there a 7'6" wide Youngstown door? 
     Bud Rindfleisch


Garage sale

Clark Propst
 

The estate sale of Mike Moore (he attended RPM meets with me) at the time and location below. 
 
April 17 from 9:30 to 4 at 1806 Brookside Cir, Albert Lea, MN 56007
 
The collection is all top notch models from companies like Tangent, Exactrail, Intermountain, Red Caboose, P2K, Athearn Genesis, etc. Hundreds of models in the 50-70s era. HO scale
 
Please tell anyone interested that’s within driving distance.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Photo: Cement Plant Equipment Load

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Cement Plant Equipment Load

A photo from the University of Texas-Arlington Archives:

https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20091764

Click on the photo twice to fully enlarge it.

Circa 1947.

Description: “Trinity Portland Cement Train. Four men are standing next to a train car with a large pipe. A series of cars with the similar pipes go into the distance on railroad tracks.”

Appears to be a rotary kiln.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Wabash Outside Braced Boxcar

A photo from the University of Texas-Arlington Archives:

https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20091771

Click on the photo twice to fully enlarge it.

Circa 1947. Car number is not apparent.

A B&O wagon-top boxcar also is shown.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Tichy wheel car

Lloyd Keyser
 

You are right Dennis. Friction bearing surfaces were protected from weather until used at the RIP with a liquid applied black coating (can't remember the name of it) applied after new wheels were applied to the axles. This was removed before installing in the truck frame. This was obviously not necessary when shipped  with a roller bearing applied. Lloyd Keyser 

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:20 AM Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 04:29 AM, Ray Hutchison wrote:
It would seem that most layouts/maintenance yards should have one or more of these.
Actually, wheel cars tended to congregate around the wheel shop where turning and mounting wheels was done. The cars would more or less run a regularly scheduled route, bringing new and reconditioned wheels out to locations with RIP tracks and bringing their old wheels back for reconditioning or scrapping. Wheels weren't typically stored on the car.

Dennis Storzek

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