Date   

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Ben!  Good eyes!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:49 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

 

Elden Gatwood wrote:

"Can anyone read the end lettering and car number?"

 

Looks like PRR 37724, which would put it in the PRR 37100-39865 series.  Note also the 1932 ARA boxcar with Pullman flat ends coupled to the PRR Class X26.  It's not a proposed 1923 ARA design boxcar because it has a tabbed side sill.  My guess is it's from NC&StL 18000-18499; the car appears to have a "Dixieland" slogan above the reporting marks, and lacks the large herald to the right of the door that you'd expect from one of the other possibilities, Seaboard.

 

 

"I see an end door box car back there."

 

A single-sheathed 50 ft boxcar, by the looks of it.

 

 

"B&O M-15 to left?"

 

A Class M-15 wagontop rebuild, or a newly-built Class M-53

 

 

Ben Hom


Photo: Refrigerator Car Circulating Fans (1946)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Refrigerator Car Circulating Fans (1946)

A photo from the University of Texas-Arlington Archives:

https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery/img/20031935

Click on the photo twice to fully enlarge it.

Fans are driven by wheels.

Description:

E. J. Blalock is the vice president of the Ben E. Keith Company. He is shown examining part of the dual circulating fan systems. The system is located under the interior floorboard of the new refrigerator test cars of the Burlington Lines. Instructions on how to properly handle the machine are posted on the wall.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Photo: Maine Central Flat Car 6625 (Circa 1909)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Maine Central Flat Car 6625 (Circa 1909)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/10660

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Benjamin Hom
 

Elden Gatwood wrote:
"Can anyone read the end lettering and car number?"

Looks like PRR 37724, which would put it in the PRR 37100-39865 series.  Note also the 1932 ARA boxcar with Pullman flat ends coupled to the PRR Class X26.  It's not a proposed 1923 ARA design boxcar because it has a tabbed side sill.  My guess is it's from NC&StL 18000-18499; the car appears to have a "Dixieland" slogan above the reporting marks, and lacks the large herald to the right of the door that you'd expect from one of the other possibilities, Seaboard.


"I see an end door box car back there."

A single-sheathed 50 ft boxcar, by the looks of it.


"B&O M-15 to left?"

A Class M-15 wagontop rebuild, or a newly-built Class M-53


Ben Hom


Re: 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA

Tim O'Connor
 


Larry do you if all of the ex-MDT reefers received this end reinforcement? And was it done on both ends?

Tim O'Connor

On 4/4/2021 8:51 PM, lrkdbn via groups.io wrote:
That car was one of the MDT reefers reconditioned by Pullman ca. 1945-this included external end reinforcement. Not an end door.
Larry King

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: Soda Digester On PRR Flat Car (Circa 1920)

Louis Adler
 

The load looks like the bottom half of the digester.  Even batch digesters, like this one, were pressurized and were typically loaded from the top.   The cooking chemicals, sodium sulfite (Na2SO3) in this case and referred to a "liquor", attack the lignin that holds the tree fibers together.   The result is that the softened wood fibers (pulp) are extracted out of the bottom and the cooking chemicals and lignin are extracted separately to be sent to a recovery process.  What is missing (in the photo) is the capping valve assembly that would be on the top, i.e. far end of the vessel.  

For a sulfate or sulfite digester, the typical ratio of height and diameter is between 3.3 and 4. The top or bottom taper angle has a certain influence on the charge, blowing, charging of liquor and steaming. The top taper angle is about 90°and the bottom taper angle is about 60°.

A diagram of a batch digester is at this website:

https://www.google.com/search?q=batch+digester+process&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS711US711&sxsrf=ALeKk02XdJ1cCEz4D9X4AkiIZD0w_UoAdg:1617638852185&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=E1761zUlNrfrGM%252CB3oWqI6-W7DF3M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQph_OZcXhAhD_YjhprND0xWLZw5g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi116KpvufvAhUNWs0KHXJBAPoQ9QF6BAgPEAE&biw=1487&bih=792#imgrc=V77Hdxbvk64UiM

Lou Adler


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Great photo, Claus!

 

Can anyone read the end lettering and car number?

 

I see an end door box car back there.

 

B&O M-15 to left?

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 10:51 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

 

Hi List Members,

 

A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?

 

 

Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Benjamin Hom
 

Claus Schlund wrote:
"A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time."

Most of the Class X26 fleet received upgrades during the mid-1930s, including Hutchins roofs, steel doors salvaged from the concurrent Class X28A rebuilding program, and truss reinforcements as necessary.  According to Al Westerfield, some cars escaped upgrading.  Almost all Class X26 boxcars would be rebuilt to Class X26C steel boxcars beginning in the late 1940s, though a few would escape rebuilding and survive in work service into penn Central.


Ben Hom 


PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?
 
 
Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Soda Digester On PRR Flat Car (Circa 1920)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Yes, indeed, a PRR F23.  The rivets on the deck end any doubt, as does the shortness of the carbody.  In largely as-built form, including the arch bar trucks and safety chains.

 

Great find, Bob!  Good eyes, Claus!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 3:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Soda Digester On PRR Flat Car (Circa 1920)

 

Hi Bob and List members,

 

If you zoom in enough, under the last A in PENNSYLVANIA, you can make our the class markings - it is a PRR class F23 flat, series 435445-435450 (6 cars).

 

The road number can be found over the left-most truck, but it is difficult to read, apparently both faded and dirty, it might read 4354X0, with the X obscured by the wire rope, in which case this is car 435450, but I would not bet a whole lot of money on that last part.

 

Claus Schlund

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 1:59 PM

Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Soda Digester On PRR Flat Car (Circa 1920)

 

Photo: Soda Digester On PRR Flat Car (Circa 1920)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/5637

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Description:

“S.D. Warren Paper Co. of Westbrook, Maine used this soda digester or sulphite digester fabricated at the Portland Company, which fabricated machines from steel and is one of the longest continually running factories in New England. This machine combines sulphite with the wood pulp to soften the pulp enough to create paper fiber.”

Notice the stakes placed to keep the cradles from shifting laterally and the steel(?) rods securing the load.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA

Bill Adam
 

Looking on google maps, surprisingly this warehouse still exists, but the surrounding area has been built up.


Re: 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA

lrkdbn
 

That car was one of the MDT reefers reconditioned by Pullman ca. 1945-this included external end reinforcement. Not an end door.
Larry King


Re: Photo: Androscoggin & Kennebec Railroad Gondola 545 (Circa 1936)

Philip Dove
 

Interesting i learn a lot from posts and replies like these. Thank you, Happy Easter


Re: 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA

Mike Smeltzer
 

Tim, are you sure they are end doors and not reinforced ends. Those ends remind me of the reinforcement the NH did to their ice cars in company service.

Just a thought...

On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 4:54 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Yes it is a BAR ex-MDT reefer - But it appears that the BAR added access doors
on the end of this car! I have never seen good photos of their ends unfortunately. Some
of the ex-MDT cars had steel ends, which makes me wonder how many of the cars
had modified ends.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/4/2021 5:34 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Nice 1952 image of a reefer at Montgomery Storage Philadelphia PA. The reefer side appears to be painted in a two color scheme, and has a herald but I do not recognize it right away. Is this a BAR reefer?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: Androscoggin & Kennebec Railroad Gondola 545 (Circa 1936)

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 04:16 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
But whatever it is, it's street railway / interurban equipment.
The original name of the line was Lewiston Augusta & Waterville, which pretty much describes where it ran. It failed in 1919 and was renamed  Androsoggin & Kennebec. It was pruned back to just the city and suburban lines around Lewiston in 1937, and totally abandoned in 1941. The Electric Interurban Railways in America by Hilton and Due states that they did handle interchange freight cars short distances.


Re: Funaro and Camarlengo website.

Mark Rossiter
 

If you are interested in using Central Valley Trucks, I may what you need.  They were the gold standard back in the day, and while not as detailed as some of the newer trucks on the market, the rolling characteristics are still quite good. 

Mark Rossiter 


Re: Photo: Androscoggin & Kennebec Railroad Gondola 545 (Circa 1936)

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 03:18 PM, akerboomk wrote:

Holes look to me like “teardrop” shaped, probably sized/shaped to fit between the “ribs” on the back side.

Look at the left most wheels

Agreed. Bur whatever it is, it's street railway / interurban equipment. Note the cars have radial couplers. Street railways liked spoked wheels, or wheels with holes through the wheel plate. The theory was it disrupted the resonance of the plate, and cut down on the howl as the wheels went around tight streetcar radius curves.

 Dennis Storzek


Re: Photo: Buoy Boats On Flat Cars (Circa 1943)

David Soderblom
 

A very tough load to model. You want the brand new look of the boats, but with the tarps just son.

Sent from my tricorder


Re: Photo: Soda Digester On PRR Flat Car (Circa 1920)

David Soderblom
 

A very modelable load. Note especially the manufacturer markings.

Sent from my tricorder


Re: NP Boxcar Completed

Stephen Dolezal
 

In

2101 - 2120 of 185271