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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Retaining Clips

gtws00
 

They are raised details that are made of resin on a decal fil. Applied as a regular decal. Archer calls these Surface Details. Cost is 8.95 for sheet. I mostly use their raised rivet details and they work very well.
George Toman


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Rupert Gamlen
 

But has anyone a link for a 1902 ORER?

Rupert Gamlen

Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2021 2:56 pm
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

 

Charlie –

8 ORERs 1903-1905 are available thru Google Books

9 are available for 1901

Note each PDF typically has 2 or 3 issues of the ORER (apparently Stanford bound them together, then they were scanned as “one” book)

 

Scan quality is “variable” – some are OK, some pages are clipped or have large black “blobs” hiding some of the text.

 

Ken


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

akerboomk
 

Charlie –

8 ORERs 1903-1905 are available thru Google Books

9 are available for 1901

Note each PDF typically has 2 or 3 issues of the ORER (apparently Stanford bound them together, then they were scanned as “one” book)

 

Scan quality is “variable” – some are OK, some pages are clipped or have large black “blobs” hiding some of the text.

 

Ken


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Ken Akerboom


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Richard Townsend
 

HMHX 6012 had a capacity of 5,633 gallons. The three compartments had capacities of 1879, 1880, and 1874 gallons. Each expansion dome was 125 gallons. In the 1955 tank car tariff Tank Car Corporation of America listed 237 tank cars. 15 of them were 3 compartment, four were 2 compartment, and the rest were single compartment. Based in Oreland, PA.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2021 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
Additional info, HMHX reporting marks apparently are used by "Tank Car Corporation of America". I've not been able to determine how many cars they owned, nor have I been able to find any specifics on car HMHX 6012.
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
I believe this scene linked below shows us the track that the switch engine is standing on in the link I mentioned in my prior email...
 
Besides the interesting industrial scene, we get a view of tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Hi List Members,
 
A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?
 
 
Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Charlie Duckworth
 

Thanks!
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR FOOTNOTE AND QUESTION

Jared Harper
 

Go to the gas signs website.  I got my White Eagle insignia from the website.  I printed one scale size, cut it out and glued it to the side of my warehouse building.

Jared Harper


Photo: Circa 1902 Freight Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Circa 1902 Freight Cars

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/43300

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Canada Atlantic Boxcar 5518 (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Canada Atlantic Boxcar 5518 (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/1448

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Boxcar also appears to be lettered for Central Vermont.

Also two B&M boxcars

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: NYC&HRR Boxcar 52228(?) (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NYC&HRR Boxcar 52228(?) (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/5831

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Also two B&M boxcars.

The station has looked better:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/5789

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Additional info, HMHX reporting marks apparently are used by "Tank Car Corporation of America". I've not been able to determine how many cars they owned, nor have I been able to find any specifics on car HMHX 6012.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
I believe this scene linked below shows us the track that the switch engine is standing on in the link I mentioned in my prior email...
 
Besides the interesting industrial scene, we get a view of tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Hi List Members,
 
A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?
 
 
Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

CJ Riley
 

It looks like the brickwork joints on the left side were roughly and crudely repointed to repair water damage. If not properly cleaned, usually with Muriatic acid, a light coating from the mortar could remain. Something to consider modeling on purpose rather than the oft seen over coating from too much modelers mortar (paint or whatever).




Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Dennis Storzek
 

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:21 PM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:
I assume hoppers given their primary customers were coal mines but would obviously like to know more. 
Given the year and local, I would be moren inclined to think wooden gons rather than hoppers.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Douglas Harding
 

Charlie, Google books is your friend.

https://books.google.com/books?id=YhUlAAAAMAAJ&hl=en

 

This page is from the July 1904 ORER and shows 2 locomotives and 27 freight cars.

 

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:22 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

 

If anyone has a ORER from 1904 I’d like to know if any freight cars are listed for the Coal Belt Railway. I’m finishing up an article for the MISSouri Pacific Historical Society on the Coal Belt Electric and Coal Belt Railways and when Peabody Coal Company sold the two railroads to George Gould (Iron Mountain) the contract states the CBRy had two locomotives and freight cars.  I’ve got the locomotives identified but can’t determine what the freight roster was.  I assume hoppers given their primary customers were coal mines but would obviously like to know more. 

So if anyone has a 1902-1905 ORER it might disclose what they owned. 

Thanks 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

earlyrail
 

From the July 1904 ORER
2 locomotives and 27 freight cars
Just a 4 line listing, no details.
This is a Mach 1904 update
not listed in my 1903 ORER's
Oct 1905 update 1 locomotive, 27 cars

Howard Garner


Re: Wrecked M-K-T Stock Cars

Bill Keene
 

Attached … if the magic works … is a bit from the December 1937 issue of the Katy’s employee magazine at the time the 47001-series stock cars were being built by the railroad. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Apr 6, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:

Tim, the MKT car resembles the I-GN stockcar built a couple years later.  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Marty McGuirk
 

Had no idea there was a real railroad called the Coal Belt.
The only Coal Belt I knew of was Bill Henderson’s wonderful HO layout set in Camelback country. 

Marty 



On Apr 6, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:



If anyone has a ORER from 1904 I’d like to know if any freight cars are listed for the Coal Belt Railway. I’m finishing up an article for the MISSouri Pacific Historical Society on the Coal Belt Electric and Coal Belt Railways and when Peabody Coal Company sold the two railroads to George Gould (Iron Mountain) the contract states the CBRy had two locomotives and freight cars.  I’ve got the locomotives identified but can’t determine what the freight roster was.  I assume hoppers given their primary customers were coal mines but would obviously like to know more. 

So if anyone has a 1902-1905 ORER it might disclose what they owned. 

Thanks 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Wrecked M-K-T Stock Cars

Charlie Duckworth
 

Tim, the MKT car resembles the I-GN stockcar built a couple years later.  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Bruce Griffin
 

Chris,

I would agree, it is an M-53, the attached photo shows a rebuilt M-15 with a wagontop body (subclass k and l). The M-15k and l boxcars had a narrower underframe and solid end beam (left over from original M-15) as seen in the photo.

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Charlie Duckworth
 

If anyone has a ORER from 1904 I’d like to know if any freight cars are listed for the Coal Belt Railway. I’m finishing up an article for the MISSouri Pacific Historical Society on the Coal Belt Electric and Coal Belt Railways and when Peabody Coal Company sold the two railroads to George Gould (Iron Mountain) the contract states the CBRy had two locomotives and freight cars.  I’ve got the locomotives identified but can’t determine what the freight roster was.  I assume hoppers given their primary customers were coal mines but would obviously like to know more. 

So if anyone has a 1902-1905 ORER it might disclose what they owned. 

Thanks 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR FOOTNOTE AND QUESTION

Tony Thompson
 

BILL PARDIE wrote:

I painted thousands of drums without giving it much thought. The Grandt Line tqanks are drying while awaiting Flying A logos that afre being produced. My thoughts went to painting detaild for the facility. Flying A was active in Hawaii at the time but I do not recall noticing what color they painted their drums. Hopefully someone with a long memory might recall what color color they used on their drums.
There are photos of Associated drums in red with a white center stripe, and black with a red stripe. Probably other combos too. Most oil companies did this for different products, such as grease, etc. Associated used Tidewater"s trade names for lubricants (Tydol and Veedol), as they had joined Tidewater to form Tidewater Associated before WW II.

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com

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