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Re: Photo: Rock Island Boxcar

Kenneth Montero
 

Interesting location for the open door on the end of the car.
 
Ken Montero

On 04/07/2021 1:06 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
 
 

Photo: Rock Island Boxcar

A photo from the Texas Transportation Archive:

https://www.ttarchive.com/dtphoto.aspx?id=A56MF9HDK6

Description:

Caption reads, "Bridgeport Coal Co., shaft No. 2, Bridgeport, Wise County. " Printed half-tone image, published in a 1913 scientific publication on Texas coal titled, "The Fuels Used in Texas"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Canadian Pacific(?) Boxcar 10130 (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Canadian Pacific(?) Boxcar 10130 (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/33768

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Road name appears to me to be Canadian Pacific. Perhaps someone with a better monitor can confirm this.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Steam Box On B&M Flat Car (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Steam Box On B&M Flat Car (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/8932

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Description: "A large pressure steam box for the Sanford Mills awaits shipment on a Boston & Maine Railroad flatcar outside the company shops. Note the cart on rails to carry materials to be steamed into the pressure chamber. The Portland Company specialized in building very large pressure vessels like this as well as boilers, which are merely high-pressure vessels themselves."

Appears to be a staged photo. Load appears not to be secured.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Rock Island Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Rock Island Boxcar

A photo from the Texas Transportation Archive:

https://www.ttarchive.com/dtphoto.aspx?id=A56MF9HDK6

Description:

Caption reads, "Bridgeport Coal Co., shaft No. 2, Bridgeport, Wise County. " Printed half-tone image, published in a 1913 scientific publication on Texas coal titled, "The Fuels Used in Texas"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948 (Placards)

Bob Chaparro
 

RE: Diamond-oriented Placards
Here are a few for less hazardous freight.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
 


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Thanks Richard for the great info!
 
I was able to turn up a bit more more info as well. From the Dec1930 ORER...
 
HMHX  1000-1009  Cap 10000 gal 100000 lb
HMHX  8000-8005  Cap  8000 gal  80000 lb
HMHX  8006-8011  Cap  8000 gal  60000 lb
HMHX 12001       Cap 12029 gal 100000 lb
 
This gives a grand total of 23 cars in Dec 1930 - obviously the company grew in size between 1930 and 1955!
 
Equally obvious is that the car in the photo (6012) was acquired after Dec 1930 but before the 1949 date of the photo
 
I think I can see the lettering "AC&F CO" at the extreme right end of the tank side.
 
Claus Schlund

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

HMHX 6012 had a capacity of 5,633 gallons. The three compartments had capacities of 1879, 1880, and 1874 gallons. Each expansion dome was 125 gallons. In the 1955 tank car tariff Tank Car Corporation of America listed 237 tank cars. 15 of them were 3 compartment, four were 2 compartment, and the rest were single compartment. Based in Oreland, PA.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2021 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
Additional info, HMHX reporting marks apparently are used by "Tank Car Corporation of America". I've not been able to determine how many cars they owned, nor have I been able to find any specifics on car HMHX 6012.
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
I believe this scene linked below shows us the track that the switch engine is standing on in the link I mentioned in my prior email...
 
Besides the interesting industrial scene, we get a view of tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Hi List Members,
 
A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?
 
 
Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

ed_mines
 

my guess is that the three compartment tank car contained refinery products used in smaller quantities like lube oils.

everywhere that I've lived there were tank farms by water. for a couple of years I worked next to a tank farm located on the Hudson river. I assumed the tanks contained home heating oil, diesel fuel and gasoline. the petroleum products were delivered by a ship.

when the water was frozen, were these tanks resupplied by railroad tank cars?

I once supervised loaded a tank car with an expensive chemical used to make mosquito repellent. Considering the difficulty in filling the car with liquid I'd say many tank cars were dedicated to one load. Tank cars used for transporting crude oil might be blown out with steam and used for fuel oil, maybe gasoline or kerosene.

in a similar vein hopper car loads sometimes got wet and froze. when thawed was coal added to the huge coal towers where it might refreeze?


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

 

I think I figured out the location of this photo. (a side hobby of mine.) Comparing the caption with some aerial photos from 1940, I believe it's here: 
https://www.historicaerials.com/location/39.923104769766795/-75.14592497524838/1940/18 

Here it is on Google Maps. https://goo.gl/maps/cqGJPgPLf22FD7Sf9  If it's not honing in, the photographer would be standing just about where the exit for the Acme parking lot at 29 Snyder Ave is, facing NW. 
--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Retaining Clips

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thank you, George!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gtws00 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 7:33 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Retaining Clips

 

They are raised details that are made of resin on a decal fil. Applied as a regular decal. Archer calls these Surface Details. Cost is 8.95 for sheet. I mostly use their raised rivet details and they work very well.
George Toman


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Retaining Clips

gtws00
 

They are raised details that are made of resin on a decal fil. Applied as a regular decal. Archer calls these Surface Details. Cost is 8.95 for sheet. I mostly use their raised rivet details and they work very well.
George Toman


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Rupert Gamlen
 

But has anyone a link for a 1902 ORER?

Rupert Gamlen

Auckland NZ

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of akerboomk
Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2021 2:56 pm
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

 

Charlie –

8 ORERs 1903-1905 are available thru Google Books

9 are available for 1901

Note each PDF typically has 2 or 3 issues of the ORER (apparently Stanford bound them together, then they were scanned as “one” book)

 

Scan quality is “variable” – some are OK, some pages are clipped or have large black “blobs” hiding some of the text.

 

Ken


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

akerboomk
 

Charlie –

8 ORERs 1903-1905 are available thru Google Books

9 are available for 1901

Note each PDF typically has 2 or 3 issues of the ORER (apparently Stanford bound them together, then they were scanned as “one” book)

 

Scan quality is “variable” – some are OK, some pages are clipped or have large black “blobs” hiding some of the text.

 

Ken


--
Ken Akerboom


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Richard Townsend
 

HMHX 6012 had a capacity of 5,633 gallons. The three compartments had capacities of 1879, 1880, and 1874 gallons. Each expansion dome was 125 gallons. In the 1955 tank car tariff Tank Car Corporation of America listed 237 tank cars. 15 of them were 3 compartment, four were 2 compartment, and the rest were single compartment. Based in Oreland, PA.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2021 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
Additional info, HMHX reporting marks apparently are used by "Tank Car Corporation of America". I've not been able to determine how many cars they owned, nor have I been able to find any specifics on car HMHX 6012.
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
I believe this scene linked below shows us the track that the switch engine is standing on in the link I mentioned in my prior email...
 
Besides the interesting industrial scene, we get a view of tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Hi List Members,
 
A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?
 
 
Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Roster help Coal Belt Railway freight cars circa 1902-1905

Charlie Duckworth
 

Thanks!
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR FOOTNOTE AND QUESTION

Jared Harper
 

Go to the gas signs website.  I got my White Eagle insignia from the website.  I printed one scale size, cut it out and glued it to the side of my warehouse building.

Jared Harper


Photo: Circa 1902 Freight Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Circa 1902 Freight Cars

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/43300

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Canada Atlantic Boxcar 5518 (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Canada Atlantic Boxcar 5518 (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/1448

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Boxcar also appears to be lettered for Central Vermont.

Also two B&M boxcars

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: NYC&HRR Boxcar 52228(?) (Circa 1900)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NYC&HRR Boxcar 52228(?) (Circa 1900)

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/5831

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge it.

Also two B&M boxcars.

The station has looked better:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/5789

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Additional info, HMHX reporting marks apparently are used by "Tank Car Corporation of America". I've not been able to determine how many cars they owned, nor have I been able to find any specifics on car HMHX 6012.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

Hi List Members,
 
I believe this scene linked below shows us the track that the switch engine is standing on in the link I mentioned in my prior email...
 
Besides the interesting industrial scene, we get a view of tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar in 1948

Hi List Members,
 
A great view of a gritty 1948 industrial scene. A PRR class X26 USRA ss boxcar is visible. Note the original wooden door has been replaced with a steel door by this time. Also note the switch engine hiding between the cuts of cars, a switchman is standing by to help out with whatever needs to still be done. This would make a great scene on a model railroad, don't you think? I also like the damaged brick wall - both on the prototype and on any model this would beg the question  - what happened there? Did a careless forklift operator back the thing right thru the wall coming from the loading dock side?
 
 
Use the "Pan and Zoom" tool to get closer to the action.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: tank cars GATX 22909 and HMHX 6012 in 1949

CJ Riley
 

It looks like the brickwork joints on the left side were roughly and crudely repointed to repair water damage. If not properly cleaned, usually with Muriatic acid, a light coating from the mortar could remain. Something to consider modeling on purpose rather than the oft seen over coating from too much modelers mortar (paint or whatever).



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