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A NYC 40ft steel box and NH 168569 ds box in Auburn ME ca 1930

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A NYC 40ft steel box and NH 168569 ds box in Auburn ME ca 1930
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


PFE and FGEX reefers in Oakfield Junction yard ME 1930

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
PFE and FGEX reefers in Oakfield Junction yard ME 1930
 
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Claus Schlund
 


B&M 40ft ss Pratt truss box Princeton ME in 1933

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

B&M 40ft ss Pratt truss box Princeton ME in 1933
 
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Claus Schlund
 


the word TARMAC in stylized fashion is discernable

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
The lettering on this tank car is a bit hard to make out, but the word TARMAC in stylized fashion is discernable. I will note that cars belongs to The Barrett Company with reporting marks BMX have a similar inscription, but the ones I have seen have the word TARVIA. Any relation?
 
Tank car Standish ME ca 1935
 
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Claus Schlund
 


Re: Image of CN 3903 36ft ss box Portland ME 1924

Benjamin Hom
 

"I'm wondering about the vehicle - STANDARD OIL CO OF NY - in Portland ME? That is a long way for a delivery. Any thoughts on that?"

New England was definitely SOCONY territory after the Standard Oil breakup.


Ben Hom


Image of MEC ss 40ft box at Portland ME 1924

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of MEC ss 40ft box at Portland ME 1924
 
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Claus Schlund
 


Image of CN 3903 36ft ss box Portland ME 1924

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Image of CN 3903 36ft ss box Portland ME 1924
 
I'm wondering about the vehicle - STANDARD OIL CO OF NY - in Portland ME? That is a long way for a delivery. Any thoughts on that?
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


A B&M drop-bottom gon (on the left, partial view only) and then a MEC gon in 1924 Portland ME

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A B&M drop-bottom gon (on the left, partial view only) and then a MEC gon in 1924 Portland ME
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: PFE Express Reefer in NYC Express Train

Tony Thompson
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

There were 300 of these PFE express reefers. You can be sure they were
seen in most states at times of the year. Express reefers could be returned in
freight trains with less-perishable loads or carried in freights in the off season.

    Very true, Tim, and in addition, PFE was a participant in the Railway Express pool, so that cars were moved where needed under REA direction. They really could be seen anywhere.

Tony Thompson




Re: PFE Express Reefer in NYC Express Train

Tim O'Connor
 


There were 300 of these PFE express reefers. You can be sure they were
seen in most states at times of the year. Express reefers could be returned in
freight trains with less-perishable loads or carried in freights in the off season.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/11/2021 3:46 PM, Paul Catapano wrote:
Tony,
Are you saying that that is a “Stock” PFE Express Reefer?
I have to take your word as I wouldn’t know one if it walked up and bit me.

Paul Catapano
Winchester, VA.

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


NJI&I to Wabash at Pine - Part 4

Gary Roe
 

Here is another installment of "Daily Interchange Report of Cars" from the NJI&I to the Wabash at Pine in 1953.  The following list is dated 07May53.  All cars originated at South Bend.  I am showing Initials, Number, Destination, Contents.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


These cars were left between 9A and 10A for pick up by Eastbound Train 96, due at Pine around 3A on 08May.

CB&Q  10214   Delta OH            Empty
PM    91935   Delta OH            Empty
Milw  19002   Milan MI            Empty
Milw  26044   Milan MI            Empty
LV    6342    South Bridge*       Empty
CRP   22904   Homer NY            Hominy

* No state given


This group of cars were left before midnight for pick up by Westbound Mixed Passenger Train 51, due at Pine at 11:53A on 08May.

NYC   136528  North Liberty IN    Empty
EJE   32992   Lafayette IN        Pipe
Wab   13052   Indiana Harbor IN   Scrap


Re: Photo: Loading Oranges

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Where do you see “sheet foil?”

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges

 

bob: 

any explanation for the sheet foil on top of the car?

thanks

;-)


Re: PFE Express Reefer in NYC Express Train

Tony Thompson
 

Paul Catapano wrote:

Are you saying that that is a “Stock” PFE Express Reefer?
I have to take your word as I wouldn’t know one if it walked up and bit me.
Perhaps a poor choice of words. I only meant to say "typical" or "ordinary" or "standard." As others pointed out, it is indeed the post-1954 rebuilt type with the very narrow fascia along the top of the sides.

Tony Thompson
tony@...


PFE Express Reefer in NYC Express Train

Paul Catapano
 

Tony,
Are you saying that that is a “Stock” PFE Express Reefer?
I have to take your word as I wouldn’t know one if it walked up and bit me.

Paul Catapano
Winchester, VA.


Re: Photo: Loading Oranges

Ken Vandevoort
 

I also noticed the ends of the orange crates are not solid boards like I remember in the 50's.  My dad was a grocery store produce manager and I had all the orange crates I ever wanted.  Sadly, they are all gone.

Ken Vandevoort


Re: Photo: Loading Oranges

mel perry
 

bob: 
any explanation for the sheet foil on top of the car?
thanks
;-)


Photo: Loading Oranges

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Loading Oranges

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/PC20110419_319

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

This is a photo of (supposedly) orange crates being loaded into a PFE reefer. What caught my eye were the words “Lay Flat” on the crates. I’ve never seen this on the many orange crate photos I’ve reviewed.

Normally, orange crates are stacked on their ends when placed in a reefer to promote air circulation. Laying them flat tends to damage the oranges. On the other hand, the date of this photo is February 1942, several months into World War II. Prior to the war, 462 packing crates made up a standard reefer load of oranges. During World War II, the Office of Defense Transportation ordered that cars were to be loaded with 693 crates.  This attempt at better car utilization resulted in a lot of damaged fruit. Due to the high amount of damage to loads, the order was revised to reduce the number of crates to 561. The order was completely rescinded in 1947 and the 462 standard re-emerged.

Perhaps the “Lay Flat” instructions were to remind those loading the car that things had changed.

Any thoughts on this?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train

Tim O'Connor
 


Maybe we should bug Steve Funaro for a resin kit. :-) These PFE BR-1 express reefers enjoyed long
careers from the 1920's to 1960 and perhaps later. And they travelled all over.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/11/2021 11:39 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

WHAT A PHOTO! Wow. Definitely St Louis. That concrete shoreline runs for a good distance.

A rebuilt PFE BR-1 - Before the rebuilding the road name was written on a wide fascia "letterboard".

Tim O'Connor

On 4/10/2021 6:10 PM, Chris Barkan wrote:
Interesting photo of two NYC GPs on an elevated structure somewhere (St. Louis?) with train consist including a green PFE reefer and numerous NYC baggage cars.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q7sAAOSw74hgb7A5/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Duplicate-Railroad-Slide-New-York-Central-NYC-GP9s-Mail-Express-Train/384085407769
--
Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train

Tim O'Connor
 


WHAT A PHOTO! Wow. Definitely St Louis. That concrete shoreline runs for a good distance.

A rebuilt PFE BR-1 - Before the rebuilding the road name was written on a wide fascia "letterboard".

Tim O'Connor

On 4/10/2021 6:10 PM, Chris Barkan wrote:
Interesting photo of two NYC GPs on an elevated structure somewhere (St. Louis?) with train consist including a green PFE reefer and numerous NYC baggage cars.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q7sAAOSw74hgb7A5/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Duplicate-Railroad-Slide-New-York-Central-NYC-GP9s-Mail-Express-Train/384085407769
--
Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train

Jerry Michels
 

Beautiful photo.  This is STL.  The TRRA's High Line.  The old, but in service TRRA lines are visible below that serviced a number of warehouses before the Arch was built.  Jerry Michels

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