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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges
mel perry
bruce: air has visible crinkles and wrinkles? ;-)
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 7:26 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Loading Oranges
Stephen Dolezal
I’d love to get a PFE 50 footer if F&C could be convinced. Missed my chance with Sunshine’s car years ago!
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges
Mel.
Air? 😉
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mel perry <clipper841@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 9:01 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges what is on top of the car roof?
;-)
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 6:40 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges
mel perry
what is on top of the car roof? ;-)
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 6:40 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: PRR X29B
WILLIAM PARDIE
Try the Ben Hom articles. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Mike Clements via groups.io" <mbclements@...> Date: 4/11/21 2:12 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR X29B Mike Clements Wakefield, MA nyc65.wordpress.com
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges
Mel,
HUH? "Aluminum foil"??? Are you talking about the metal roof? If so, it is neither aluminum, nor foil.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mel perry <clipper841@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 6:54 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Oranges
aluminum foil on top of the roof, outside
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 1:24 PM Schuyler Larrabee via
groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
Steve SANDIFER
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mopacfirst
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 7:10 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
I watch the Sunshine items closely. I think the express reefers suffer from a double whammy, one being the most significant issue, that this prototype was later done in plastic, by Walthers and maybe others. The other issue with these wood-side express reefers being that they were issued with lettering for a number of roads who only owned them, and maybe only owned a small number, for a short time. There are a number of other Sunshine releases that were later done in plastic, sometimes only a couple years after the Sunshine release, which effectively torpedoed the sales of the resin kit.
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Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
kevinhlafferty
I had also noticed that the Sunshine express reefer kits don't do well on eBay but I had always assumed it was due to the availability of reasonable quality plastic models; specifically Branchline/Atlas for the welded cars and both Walthers and BLI for the wood cars. I think the lack of availability of an accurate plastic kit/assembled model would justify the effort required in producing a kit (i.e. sales). I think an F&C or Resin Car Works or Speedwitch kit is a great idea and I would definitely be in the market for at least 1.
Kevin Lafferty
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Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
Unfortunately Martin chose the prototypes - General American wood sheathed and the later all steel cars - that both became excellent mass market plastic models. Prices for brass models of GN steel express box cars and express reefers have held up rather well I think because they are distinctive and there is no plastic alternative. How is the old passenger car market doing anyway? I saw an article on a huge uptick for Marklin train set sales in 2020... I wonder if anything like that happened here. Tim O'Connor
On 4/11/2021 7:09 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io wrote:
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 09:49 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Image of CN 3903 36ft ss box Portland ME 1924
Marc Simpson
I think that part of the CN car number must not be visible, CN didn't roster any boxcars with a number series that low. If you squint hard enough you can see a bit of paint between the end verticals that might indicate the car series was in the 3XXXXX or 4XXXXX series which had single sheath boxcars in those number series.
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PRR X29B
I was reading the two part series on the X29B from the 11-12/92 issues of Mainline Modeler. There are a couple of discrepancies between the two articles. In the first Greg Martin went the extra mile to model the car with a Murphy roof while the plans in Martin Lofton's follow up show diagonal panel. I would think that given the 1948-50 build period that the roof changed halfway through, do we know the numbers? Second, Greg Martin's model was built with four heavy crossbearers, while the plans show just two (the two that Greg installed at the edges of the door weren't there). Which is correct?
Mike Clements Wakefield, MA nyc65.wordpress.com
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Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
mopacfirst
I watch the Sunshine items closely. I think the express reefers suffer from a double whammy, one being the most significant issue, that this prototype was later done in plastic, by Walthers and maybe others. The other issue with these wood-side express reefers being that they were issued with lettering for a number of roads who only owned them, and maybe only owned a small number, for a short time. There are a number of other Sunshine releases that were later done in plastic, sometimes only a couple years after the Sunshine release, which effectively torpedoed the sales of the resin kit.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Photo: Loading Oranges
mel perry
aluminum foil on top of the roof, outside
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 1:24 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Loading Oranges
"I also noticed the ends of the orange crates are not solid boards..."
Yes, these are the first crates I've seen without solid ends, but all the many examples I've seen are from California's citrus industry. The wire binding is a bit unusual but not entirely. Perhaps the location is Florida or Texas. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Image of CN 3903 36ft ss box Portland ME 1924
Dave Parker
As Ben indicated, the six New England states plus NY comprised the marketing territory assigned to SOCONY after the 1911 breakup.
Which is not to say that other "baby standards" weren't present in New England, they were. Specifically, Indiana (Amoco), New Jersey (Esso), and Atlantic (the PA and DE territory) Likewise, SOCONY, under various guises (Mobilgas, Lubrite, Magnolia, others), was able to market in areas initially assigned to other baby standards. This crossing of territorial boundaries was most often accomplished by buying up smaller local/regional refineries. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
Tom Madden
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 09:49 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
On the secondary market, the Sunshine kits that do the worst are the express reefers. I guess freight car folks think of them as passenger cars, and there aren't enough passenger car modelers to pick up the slack. Tom Madden
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Re: PFE Reefer in NYC Express Train
Ray Hutchison
Those are all NYC mail storage cars behind the PFE express reefer?
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A NYC 40ft steel box and NH 168569 ds box in Auburn ME ca 1930
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
A NYC 40ft steel box and NH 168569 ds box in Auburn ME ca
1930
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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PFE and FGEX reefers in Oakfield Junction yard ME 1930
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
PFE and FGEX reefers in Oakfield Junction yard ME 1930
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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B&M 40ft ss Pratt truss box Princeton ME in 1933
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
B&M 40ft ss Pratt truss box Princeton ME in 1933 Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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