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Re: partial view of a WFEX reefer, possibly 63856, in the 1920s on SAL

Sean Murphy
 

Pretty early on for sure. WFE was created in 1923 which from the condition of the car would likely place the photo at the end of the decade, if not later. An SAL fan would have a better idea based on the locomotive and location.


Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss

Nelson Moyer
 

In Louisiana, Lafayette is pronounced LAUGH’ e ette.  Like ‘Laugh it up’ except with a strong ‘e’ and the ette, pronounced like I ain’t ‘ete’ (ate) yet. My sister once lived there.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Funny names and pronounciationss

 

In Tennessee, Milan is pronounced My-lan. And Lafayette is LaFAYette. 

Thanks!

Brian Ehni 

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On Apr 19, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:

There used to be a wonderfully entertaining book called "Oregon Geographic Names."  Not sure if it is still in print.

You can add Riddle, OR to your list, Brian, and Arock and Lone Rock.  I also like Speece, OR on the UP's branch to Shaniko.  Nothing there except space.

In Massachusetts, where I was born, there are lots of pronunciation challenges: Worcester, Gloucester, Billerica, and names that sound like sneezing - Cochituate, Athabaska and Situate.

Todd Sullivan


Re: NJI&I to Wabash at Pine - Part 5 & Last

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Armco = metal siding.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Roe
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 7:03 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NJI&I to Wabash at Pine - Part 5 & Last

 

Eric,

 

I am not real familiar with the industries in South Bend; but I do know there was an ARMCO plant there.  My guess is that the siding was metal; but could have been more of an industrial or agricultural type, rather than housing.

 

gary roe

quincy, illinois

 

 

 

On Sunday, April 18, 2021, 04:44:01 PM CDT, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

 

 

I wonder if the siding loads are wood or metal. I assume they are housing siding.

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

On 04/18/2021 7:22 AM Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:

 

 

Here is the last installment of "Daily Interchange Report of Cars" from the NJI&I to the Wabash at Pine in 1953.  The following list is dated 07May53.  All cars originated at South Bend.  I am showing Initials, Number, Destination, Contents.

 

gary roe

quincy, illinois

 

 

These cars were left between 10:45P and Midnight for pick up by Westbound Train 89 (Montpelier, OH to Chicago), expected at Pine around 7A on 08May.

 

T&P   19065   Fort Madison IA     Pipe

ATSF  146225  Chicago IL          Empty

PLE   12846   Chicago IL          Pipe

EJE   6157    Burnsville MN       Tractors

Milw  592206  Chicago IL          Empty

CB&Q  31802   Chicago IL          Empty

Milw  25624   Dallas TX           Siding

IC    20250   Denver CO           Siding

NP    12857   Chicago IL          Empty

Wab   12544   Barstow CA          Autos

Wab   12572   Barstow CA          Autos

ATSF  7127    Eau Claire WI       Autos

WP    40058   Barstow CA          Autos

 

 


looking at the string of cars, going from left to right

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I've spent a little time taking in and enjoying the scene linked below...
 
 
The image comes from the Barriger collection, and the link to the original is https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12445170744/ , but I recommend you NOT spend too much time looking at the original since it is mirror-reversed. I have corrected that in the link I am presenting.
 
I'm not an expert, but looking at the string of cars, going from left to right, I'd suggest we have the following...
 
(1) C&O offset side twin hopper
(2) C&O offset side twin hopper
(3) Unknown to me 50ft steel auto boxcar - thoughts on this?
(4) C&O twin hopper, looks similar to the USRA design
(5) C&O offset side twin hopper
(6) MILW 40ft steel horizontal-ribbed boxcar
(7) C&O 40ft gon
(8) L&N 40ft gon
(9) C&O offset side twin hopper
(10) Unknown to me twin hopper - herald makes me think B&O maybe? Thoughts?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss

 

In Tennessee, Milan is pronounced My-lan. And Lafayette is LaFAYette. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Apr 19, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:

There used to be a wonderfully entertaining book called "Oregon Geographic Names."  Not sure if it is still in print.

You can add Riddle, OR to your list, Brian, and Arock and Lone Rock.  I also like Speece, OR on the UP's branch to Shaniko.  Nothing there except space.

In Massachusetts, where I was born, there are lots of pronunciation challenges: Worcester, Gloucester, Billerica, and names that sound like sneezing - Cochituate, Athabaska and Situate.

Todd Sullivan


Re: C&IM fans are gonna like this 1948-1959

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 09:10 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
On many cars with no brake step, the wheel had a taller shaft and the brakeman stood on the roof. You are right that operating it from the ladder is pretty unsafe.
Or not. Safe or not, there was never a requirement to have a brake step, just recommended practice, I believe. The Soo Line had thousands of boxcars where the brakeman would have had to be a midget to operate the brake wheel from the roof, and the last of them were still in service, unmodified, through the sixties.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Fasteners/Rivets for Wire Grab Irons

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Effective and clever.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:05 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Fasteners/Rivets for Wire Grab Irons

 

I am in the process of building an Accurail freight car kit that required grab iron fasteners/rivets to be applied to newly installed wire grab irons after molded ladders and grab irons and fasteners carved off.  I believe I have found an easy and quick method I have not seen in print or heard of before that I want to share with you.  If you are interested photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss

Todd Sullivan
 

There used to be a wonderfully entertaining book called "Oregon Geographic Names."  Not sure if it is still in print.

You can add Riddle, OR to your list, Brian, and Arock and Lone Rock.  I also like Speece, OR on the UP's branch to Shaniko.  Nothing there except space.

In Massachusetts, where I was born, there are lots of pronunciation challenges: Worcester, Gloucester, Billerica, and names that sound like sneezing - Cochituate, Athabaska and Situate.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

Barry Roth
 

That’s how it is in the song “The Wreck of Old Ninety-Seven.”

On Apr 19, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

I think the one in Virginia is locally MON-roe.

Tony Thompson




Mun-Roe

Andy Carlson
 

How long has it been since we heard from Mike Brock?
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Monday, April 19, 2021, 10:08:59 AM PDT, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:


Nelson Moyer wrote:
"It must be a pretty slow modeling week for this thread to last this long."

Or absent moderators.


Ben Hom
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Re: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

Benjamin Hom
 

Nelson Moyer wrote:
"It must be a pretty slow modeling week for this thread to last this long."

Or absent moderators.


Ben Hom


Re: Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

Mark Rossiter
 

Eric et al, as Bruce stated – Charlotte is roughly 10 miles north of downtown Rochester – where the Genesee River empties into Lake Ontario.  The New York Central had a line that serviced Charlotte from the south as well as the ‘Hojack’ line (former Rome, Watertown and Ogdensburg) that ran east-west and crossed the Genesee River on a swing bridge that was finally dismantled several years ago. 

 

The Despatch Shops were located in East Rochester, which as the name implies is some 10-15 miles east of downtown Rochester, and were located directly off of the NYC mainline running from Albany to Buffalo and beyond.  Lots of FREIGHT CARS built there over the years, especially during the steam era. 😊

 

Mark Rossiter   

 

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Re: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

Nelson Moyer
 

I thought MUNrow was a southern thing until Bruce told us about the one in New York. Down south, the emphasis is on the U in MUN, without a hint of O in MONroe.

 

It must be a pretty slow modeling week for this thread to last this long.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

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From: Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 11:11 AM
To:
main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

 

I think the one in Virginia is locally MON-roe.

Tony Thompson

 

 

 

 


Re: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

Tony Thompson
 

I think the one in Virginia is locally MON-roe.

Tony Thompson




Re: C&IM fans are gonna like this 1948-1959

Tony Thompson
 

For the wood ss boxcars, where is the step for the brakeman using the vertical brake wheel? Seems unsafe.

On many cars with no brake step, the wheel had a taller shaft and the brakeman stood on the roof. You are right that operating it from the ladder is pretty unsafe.

Tony Thompson




Re: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

Nelson Moyer
 

Au Contraire! In Crossett, AR it’s MUN’row. How do I know? My wife is from Crossettt.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

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From: Jim Ogden
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 7:20 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Mun-Roe was Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reefers At A Blast Furnace (Circa 1925)

 

It’s MUN-roe only inside the city limits but if you go to Bastrop or Rayville (BAA strup, RAY-vul) we pronounce it Mun-ROE.  For the record, I am from Mer Rouge (mur-ROUGE thirty miles north.  My rule is to come across like a native, pronounce it wrong.

Monroe is on the old MoPac and IC.  Shorelines were the A&LM plus logging and industrial switching at paper mills or logging operations.

Jim Ogden




 


Re: C&IM fans are gonna like this 1948-1959

Thomas Klosterman
 

For the wood ss boxcars, where is the step for the brakeman using the vertical brake wheel? Seems unsafe.


Re: partial view of a WFEX reefer, possibly 63856, in the 1920s on SAL

Larry Goolsby
 

Do you have the location and a more exact date?  Looks like maybe West Lake Wales - at any rate, somewhere on the Miami extension, which was opened in 1925. 

CLG


SFRD Ice Hatch Latches

Tom Lawler
 

Denis,

I am no expert on reefers. I know they work for PFE, at least for the time period I model. Probably most others too. SFRD had those funky sawtooth (for lack of a better word) latches. So, someone else with far more knowledge than I will have to answer your question!

Tom


Re: NJI&I to Wabash at Pine - Part 5 & Last

Andy Laurent
 

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 02:40 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
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I wonder if the siding loads are wood or metal. I assume they are housing siding.
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
Eric,
Mastic Corporation in South Bend made siding for buildings.  It was the 'faux pattern' type, typically made to resemble/cover brick or clapboard. They started in asphalt in 1932, and began making vinyl siding in 1964.

The pipe loads were likely corrugated metal pipe from Armco, also in South Bend on the NJI&I.  I would guess that the tractors on the EJE car were a partial unload/multi-stop load.

Andy L.
Madison, WI (grew up in South Bend, IN)

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