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Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss

Tony Thompson
 

Dave Lawler wrote:

How about LYE-ma, Ohio, home of the famous locomotive works, and LEE-ma, Peru.

Well, hey, it's a LYE-ma bean, after all. <g>

Tony Thompson




Re: GN Boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

Philip Dove wrote:

I don't know about the Uniforms, but do the pallets or skids by the car date things. I thought pallets came with fork lift trucks and Iso containers after the second World War? 

Bruce Smith is right, pallets and lift trucks considerably pre-date WW II, but it was the experience of so many military folks with that system that hugely expanded its use after the War. 

Tony Thompson




Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss

Brian Termunde
 

I'm planning on modeling it's Milwaukee neighbor's line to Raymond with barge service to South Bend.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss
From: Chuck Soule
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 22:59:38 PDT
The Northern Pacific's Willipa Harbor Branch from Chehalis to South Bend, Washington had a flag stop way up at the top of the ridge called Pluvius.  The story is that original settler said he named it that because the first year he was there it rained 362 day, and the other three were damn cloudy!

Chuck Soule


Re: [Funny names and pronounciationss

Rod Miller
 

South of Coeur D' Alene (locals say CDA) on U.S. 95, two places/towns next to each other are named Tensed (was Temsed) and De Smet.


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

earlyrail
 

Walk over the my library and pulled it out.
No photos.  Basic drawing without dimensions.
Wood dowel construction.
Painted for a fictitious company

Still interested I will scan and send a copy

Howard Garner


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Benjamin Hom
 

Kevin Lafferty asked:
"Time to pull out the way back machine. This may be a hopeless request, but in searching for additional info on these DuPont 3K gallon lead yank cars I found a reference to a May 1960 RMC article about scratch building a 3K gallon tank car by Chuck [Yungkurth]. The earliest RMCs I have are '64 and most on-line dealers believe these old magazines were printed on Unobtainium. Does anyone possibly remember this article and is it worth the cost of obtaining a copy?"

eBay turned up two listings for the May 1960 RMC:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Railroad-Model-Craftsman-Magazine-May-1960-RMC-Plate-Girder-Bridges/184663096667 ($7.95 + shipping)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Railroad-Model-Craftsman-Magazine-1960-May-RMC-Plate-girder-bridges-3000-Gal-tan/392873236750  ($5 + shipping)


Ben Hom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice car, Claus!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas

 

Hi Bob and List Members,

 

I've spent quite a bit of time looking at this great photo. It was this photo (and others) that made it clear to be that even by 1929 most PRR class GS gons no longer had their as-built archbar trucks and had received cast frame trucks.

 

In N scale, the PRR class GS gon is possible, but it is quite a kitbash! See attached.

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:17 PM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas

 

I like the nice, light weathering touch on most of these freight cars.  😊

 

BTW, I think I see a 28 or 29 weigh date on one of the GS gons; the cleanest looking one.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas

 

Photo: PRR Gondolas

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1986268_0288

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Boxcar 23635 X29D (1955)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

This June 1955 rebuild is part of the oddball group with high tack boards on the ends and low on the doors. 

 

PRR was getting orders of doors, sides and ends, in batches, and used what they had on hand.  Given the thousands of rebuilds being done, variations abound.

 

The use of long-taper IDE, overhanging/”Z-U” diagonal panel roof, 8-ft Y-town door, and re-use of the original X29 u/f with new side sill widener, with relocated cross-bearers and deep(er) under door reinforcement makes these cars very interesting.

 

This in the period PRR was figuring out earlier u/f’s were not cutting it….

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Boxcar 23635 X29D (1955)

 

Photo: PRR Boxcar 23635 X29D (1955)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_20852

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

It is likely that the Illinois Railway Museum Store has the back copy of RMC that you are looking for.   They have tons of magazines donated to them on a regular basis so the cost is fairly reasonable.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:03 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

 

kevin;

if you belong to the nmra  you can have

their library make copies for you, probably cheaper than epay

;-)

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 12:02 PM kevinhlafferty <khlafferty@...> wrote:

Time to pull out the way back machine. This may be a hopeless request, but in searching for additional info on these DuPont 3K gallon lead tank cars I found a reference to a May 1960 RMC article about scratch building a 3K gallon tank car by Chuck Youngkurth. The earliest RMCs I have are '64 and most on-line dealers believe these old magazines were printed on Unobtainium. Does anyone possibly remember this article and is it worth the cost of obtaining a copy?
Thanks,
Kevin Lafferty


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

mel perry
 

kevin;
if you belong to the nmra  you can have
their library make copies for you, probably cheaper than epay
;-)


On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 12:02 PM kevinhlafferty <khlafferty@...> wrote:
Time to pull out the way back machine. This may be a hopeless request, but in searching for additional info on these DuPont 3K gallon lead tank cars I found a reference to a May 1960 RMC article about scratch building a 3K gallon tank car by Chuck Youngkurth. The earliest RMCs I have are '64 and most on-line dealers believe these old magazines were printed on Unobtainium. Does anyone possibly remember this article and is it worth the cost of obtaining a copy?
Thanks,
Kevin Lafferty


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Auto Stampings Into PRR Gondola

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

 

After much close examination and head-scratching, I believe what we are looking at is a PRR class G31D number 376358 (I think).

 

The Budd-produced underbodies are for an unknown manufacturer, but Budd was doing multiple stamping projects for various manufacturers in the suspected timeframe.

 

G31D were favorites in these kind of services, with 52’6” IL, wood floors, and fixed end.  They were easily fitted with specialized service equipment.

 

The big end frames seem to have been a PRR thing to prevent tipping of the load in impact.

 

The low side rails are a feature I have rarely seen on PRR gons, but make sense.  It would allow tie-down of the underbodies without use of the clips, and provide some more confinement of the load.

 

Here’s another G31D, this one in frame service (I think).

 

One could make a model of this car, from either what I did on a G31D is different equipped service:  a Con-Cor kit-bash with DA ends and new details, OR the spendy version, a Tangent kitbash with new fixed ends (much better base) and added frame and side rails.  Good luck with those underbodies, though!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 12:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Loading Auto Stampings Into PRR Gondola

 

Photo: Loading Auto Stampings Into PRR Gondola

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1999228_0033

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: PRR Gondolas

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
I've spent quite a bit of time looking at this great photo. It was this photo (and others) that made it clear to be that even by 1929 most PRR class GS gons no longer had their as-built archbar trucks and had received cast frame trucks.
 
In N scale, the PRR class GS gon is possible, but it is quite a kitbash! See attached.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas

I like the nice, light weathering touch on most of these freight cars.  😊

 

BTW, I think I see a 28 or 29 weigh date on one of the GS gons; the cleanest looking one.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas

 

Photo: PRR Gondolas

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1986268_0288

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

kevinhlafferty
 

Time to pull out the way back machine. This may be a hopeless request, but in searching for additional info on these DuPont 3K gallon lead tank cars I found a reference to a May 1960 RMC article about scratch building a 3K gallon tank car by Chuck Youngkurth. The earliest RMCs I have are '64 and most on-line dealers believe these old magazines were printed on Unobtainium. Does anyone possibly remember this article and is it worth the cost of obtaining a copy?
Thanks,
Kevin Lafferty


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] whose grain car is this?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thank you, Tom!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Madden via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 2:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] whose grain car is this?

 

Caption says it's a barge.

Tom Madden


Re: whose grain car is this?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Caption says that they are loading grain into a barge.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 12:58 PM
To: 'stmfc' <realstmfc@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] whose grain car is this?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/AVD_2017206_075?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=aaddfe897c14a4c4acd4&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=1&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=2

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Boxcar Cleaning Equipment

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

 

From what I’ve been able to glean, this is PRR’s attempt at (or documentation of) more automated box car cleaning, in this case, for GN cars.

 

PRR was having a hard time absorbing costs from cleaning up cars arriving dirty inside, or with significant need after unloading, and was certainly looking for solutions.

 

It appears to be a spray bar arrangement on a pivot.  Maybe on a dedicated clean-out track with that track.  I know of nowhere on PRR that they had this.  Can anyone ID?

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 11:49 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Boxcar Cleaning Equipment

 

Photos: Boxcar Cleaning Equipment

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_22175

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_22173

Click on the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: whose grain car is this?

Tom Madden
 

Caption says it's a barge.

Tom Madden


whose grain car is this?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Welded reefer?

Bruce Smith
 

Richard,

 

Among the welded 40’ steam era reefers described in the archives are a batch of FGE cars circa 1947 described by Bill Welch.

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Richard Townsend via groups.io" <richtownsend@...>
Reply-To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:00 AM
To: "realstmfc@groups.io" <realstmfc@groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Welded reefer?

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

My off the wall question for today was triggered by a discussion with a friend. Were there any 40' steam era reefers with welded rather than riveted sides? We could not think of any.

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR


Re: Photo: DuPont Tank Cars (1940)

Eric Hansmann
 

It would be neat to get a better view of the Erie boxcar and the high walkway tank car four cars ahead of the Erie boxcar.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On 04/20/2021 10:50 AM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Personally, I thought the star of the show was ERIE 94547 in the middle of all those tank cars . . .  😊

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: DuPont Tank Cars (1940)


Photo: DuPont Tank Cars (1940)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1972341_0339

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

I wonder if a plastic model manufacture could figure out how to simulate the band going over the top rivet row as seen on car #317 without resorting to a separate piece for the band?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




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