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Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883
lrkdbn
A nice picture-pity it can't be downloaded...
LR King
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This looks to be a PRR class GS gondola to me - Philadelphia PA 1932
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
This looks to be a PRR class GS gondola to me - Philadelphia PA 1932
Way too dirty to read any reporting marks...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883
Schuyler Larrabee
Clamps, Gary. Specially cast clamps to hold the ladder stiles close to the car at the midpoint. There are similar clamps at the top and bottom of the ladders, particularly noticeable at the end ladder.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 12:50 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883
Great picture! What are the padlock shaped devices on only one side of each ladder?
Gary Laakso North west of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Photo: MDT Reefer 16883 Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/40496560693/in/album-72157631664600097/ He writes: “Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Line (MDT) wooden ice activated Reefer # 16883 (refrigerated box car) is seen at an unknown New Haven Railroad yard location, ca late 1930's.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Box Car flooring question
Andy Laurent
Attached is an ad for the Standard steel perforated flooring, installed in a GBW single-sheathed boxcar (which was suitable for flour loading).
Andy L. Madison, WI
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Re: URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor
Schuyler Larrabee
Just catching this thread . . .
So what’s happened? Has the car been preserved? Has some museum been made aware of the car? Is there hope that an essentially museum piece of a freight car will be given the treatment a survivor deserves?
Some years ago I learned that the owner of a short line that operates out of Scranton had a “thing” for TOFC trailers that were lettered for railroads. I knew of one, and went looking for it again, putting a lot of miles on my car before realizing that it had been boxed in by more trailers. I alerted this man who withing a few days had driven to Massachusetts, negotiated the acquisition, extracted the car in exchange for some other trailer, and took it back to Scranton for restoration, proudly lettered for the Erie Lackawanna..
So it CAN be done and that 101-year-old URTX reefer really deserves a safe and secure home.
Do what you can.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:15 PM To: STMFC E-List <main@Realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor
Gregg Condon forwarded these recent photos of this URTX/Milw wooden reefer in Winona, Minn., serving as a storage shed, and until recently hidden under falsework siding.
Here's the backstory, In Gregg's words:
"Railfanning is wayyy fun, especially when you discover the wayyy unexpected. Pat and I were driving down a street in Winona. We passed an old business building just as a couple guys finished tearing the end off an old shed and I saw it was lettered "URTX." I sez to Pat in a frenzy, "Go around the block!" We went back and she shot the attached pix with her phone. Dark cloudy day, but you can see that perhaps 80 to 90 years ago somebody had nailed two-by-two batts to a wooden refrigerator car and nailed siding over that. Built date is 1920. Interesting to see the preserved true paint colors from that era."
Regards, Bob Chapman
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Re: Photo: New Haven Gondola X-598
Tony Thompson
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an image of a PM ds boxcar in 1907 Philadelphia PA
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
While we could wish for a little better resolution, an image of a PM ds
boxcar in 1907 Philadelphia PA
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Box Car flooring question
Jack Mullen
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 05:06 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
No, not as far as I can tell.* Doweloc ( I think that's the correct spelling of the trade name) was a wood flooring product in the form of laminated planks 12" wide, made of narrow tongue-and-grooved strips pressed together and fastened with metal dowels. AFAIK, Doweloc flooring for railcars was introduced in the mid-50s. What we see in this photo is a wood floor covered with perforated steel protection plates. Standard Railway Equipment Manufacturing Co. was one maker. The holes served several purposes, making a non-skid surface, nailable, and lighter. These plates were commonly installed in the doorway area, less commonly over the entire floor, as here. These plates seem to have been introduced in the 30s, becoming common after WW2, with increased use of forklifts. The plates were thin, 1/8" or less, so sweeping fairly clean really wasn't a big deal. I do remember some cars in company material service after several decades in revenue use where an accumulation of dust, dirt and grit had worked in between the plates and the underlying wood floor. I have to admit that I'm missing something in the response implying the car isn't suitable for grain. I get that it's a joke, but I miss the point. And maybe I'm having a deja vu moment, but didn't this topic come up a year ago? Jack Mullen
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Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)
Schuyler Larrabee
Well, Kevin, looks like you probably have scans of the article by Chuck Yungkurth. But if you are still looking, I brought home a copy of the magazine from the North Shore club’s library last night. As others said, only a scale drawing and a 1960’s version of how to scratchbuild the model, all wood and paper. I’m sure the model you build will be enormously better (no disrespect to Chuck – he did the best possible in – lily – 1959 or so) and we all look forward to seeing photos of the results in . . . say . . . sometime in July?? 😊
N.B., the copy I have is in a bound volume, so some distortion would be likely.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Allan Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:45 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)
I have a copy of RMC May 1960. As soon as I can I will dig it out and send a copy of the article. It will be a few days as I am helping wire a house for a backup generator, should finish tomorrow. I can have the copy to you by Thursday. If you will send me your Email address I will send it directly to you.
Al Smith Sonora CA Smithal9@...
On Tuesday, April 20, 2021, 01:27:33 PM PDT, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Kevin Lafferty asked:
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondolas
Schuyler Larrabee
Impressive kitbash in the Nearly iNvisble scale!
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:44 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: PRR Gondolas
Hi Bob and List Members,
I've spent quite a bit of time looking at this great photo. It was this photo (and others) that made it clear to be that even by 1929 most PRR class GS gons no longer had their as-built archbar trucks and had received cast frame trucks.
In N scale, the PRR class GS gon is possible, but it is quite a kitbash! See attached.
Claus Schlund
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Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883
gary laakso
Great picture! What are the padlock shaped devices on only one side of each ladder?
Gary Laakso North west of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:45 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883
Photo: MDT Reefer 16883 Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/40496560693/in/album-72157631664600097/ He writes: “Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Line (MDT) wooden ice activated Reefer # 16883 (refrigerated box car) is seen at an unknown New Haven Railroad yard location, ca late 1930's.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: New Haven Gondola X-598
Photo: New Haven Gondola X-598 Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/50852954007/in/album-72157631664600097/ Spotted at a Gulf Oil Corporation building in the early 1950s. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: MDT Reefer 16883
Photo: MDT Reefer 16883 Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/40496560693/in/album-72157631664600097/ He writes: “Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Line (MDT) wooden ice activated Reefer # 16883 (refrigerated box car) is seen at an unknown New Haven Railroad yard location, ca late 1930's.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Like A Desk Job Without The Desk
Photo: Like A Desk Job Without The Desk Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/50435189753/in/album-72157631664600097/ He writes: “New Haven Railroad employee is seen while oiling journal bearings on a New Haven Railroad gondola # 60610, along with other cars as they pass by his location in the yard, ca 1940's. The name of the photographer that captured this image on film is Charles B. Gunn.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: New Haven Boxcar 31519
Photo: New Haven Boxcar 31519 Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/50712834342/in/album-72157631664600097/ His comments: “New Haven Railroad box car 31519, a 30000 series box car of 6,000 ordered in 1941 by the railroad, is seen in a yard in Providence, Rhode Is, 1956. Forty Foot Box Car 31519 class XM was built by Pullman Standard in the group of cars 31000 to 32999 in 1944. During the 1950's a good number of this series of box cars were sold to a leasing company, and they were refurbished, then leased back to the New Haven Railroad wearing one of the McGinnis era paint schemes. The name of the photographer that captured this image is David R. Sweetland.” Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Box Car flooring question
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Fritz, you made my day!
I won’t stop smiling!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 11:12 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Box Car flooring question
Woe betide the man who accidentally sends this car to a grain elevator for loading...
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Re: Box Car flooring question
Fritz Milhaupt
Woe betide the man who accidentally sends this car to a grain elevator for loading...
-Fritz Milhaupt
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Re: URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor
Andy Laurent
I saw the end of that car poking out in what looked like an alley in downtown Winona last fall. Interesting to see that it has come into the light!
Andy L. Madison, WI
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Box Car flooring question
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Group;
Is this “Dowel-Loc” flooring?
https://digital.hagley.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A2364551/datastream/OBJ/view
I have been trying to figure out that story.
I imagine some debris collected in the holes that required occasional cleaning. Big vacuum cleaner!
Elden Gatwood
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photos: Boxcar Cleaning Equipment
Staffan Ehnbom
Both photos are of GN35381, a 50' double door box car, judging by the writing on the inside of the doors. Staffan Ehnbom
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:54 AM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:
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