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Re: URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor

Bob Chapman
 

Two more (last)
 
Bob Chapman

Re: URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor

Bob Chapman
 

Looks like the STMFC fine print only allows two attached photos. Here are a couple more that Gregg has sent. 
 
Bob Chapman
 
 

Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Tony Thompson
 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 01:15 PM, lrkdbn wrote:
A nice picture-pity it can't be downloaded

On the Mac, press Shift, Command, and 4 keys together, drag the crosshair to select the desired area, and release. The image is saved on the desktop.

Tony Thompson
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Nelson Moyer
 

I opened the largest of the large choices, did Print Screen, opened the file in PE, cropped the image, enhanced focus and contrast, and saved it to disk. Sharpening and adding contrast enable me to read the lettering, and the file is only 2.18 MB.

Nelson Moyer

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Kapka
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:03 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Hi

I saved to desktop, then put in downloads.

Mark Kapka
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks Roger.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

 

Car built Mar 23; renumbered 40883 after rebuilding during WW2 and sold to Hyman Michaels for scrap in March of 1952

 

Roger Hinman



On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

 

Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/40496560693/in/album-72157631664600097/

He writes:

“Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Line (MDT) wooden ice activated Reefer # 16883 (refrigerated box car) is seen at an unknown New Haven Railroad yard location, ca late 1930's.”

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Mark Kapka
 

Hi

I saved to desktop, then put in downloads.

Mark Kapka
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

ROGER HINMAN
 

Car built Mar 23; renumbered 40883 after rebuilding during WW2 and sold to Hyman Michaels for scrap in March of 1952

Roger Hinman

On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/40496560693/in/album-72157631664600097/

He writes:

“Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Line (MDT) wooden ice activated Reefer # 16883 (refrigerated box car) is seen at an unknown New Haven Railroad yard location, ca late 1930's.”

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Todd Sullivan
 

You can open a Word document, click on Screen Capture and capture the image that way, then save the Word document.

Todd Sullivan
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Dave Parker
 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 01:15 PM, lrkdbn wrote:
A nice picture-pity it can't be downloaded
No, but you can adjust the zoom to fill the screen, do a screen capture to the clipboard (PrtScn), paste the image into any number of programs (Powerpoint, Photoshop, etc), and save it as a JPEG, PNG, or whatever.  EZ-PZ.
 
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Contact me off list, please.

 

Schuyler

 

Schuyler *dot* larrabee (at) Verizon.net

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of lrkdbn via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

 

A nice picture-pity it can't be downloaded...
LR King

Who Manufactured This Model?

Bob Chaparro
 

Who Manufactured This Model?

I recently acquired this HO scale model at a swap meet. Nobody seemed to know who manufactured it.

The model has a wood body with printed sides, brass door hinges and wire grab irons and sill steps. It represents a pre-SFRD Santa Fe Hanrahan reefer, probably built in1892.

Does anyone know who manufactured this model?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor

ROGER HINMAN
 

Very nice photos, thanks for sharing. It appears to be one of the many ACF cars that URTX had. My notes show this series were the earlier 1922 design so I question the 1920 build date. The 5.jpg clearly shows the 2 but the last digit appears to be hidden under the piece of wood. January 1923 would fit the delivery of the second lot of ACF cars.


Roger Hinman

On Apr 20, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Bob Chapman <chapbob4014@...> wrote:

Gregg Condon forwarded these recent photos of this URTX/Milw wooden reefer in Winona, Minn., serving as a storage shed, and until recently hidden under falsework siding. 
 
Here's the backstory, In Gregg's words:
 
"Railfanning is wayyy fun, especially when you discover the wayyy unexpected. Pat and I were driving down a street in Winona. We passed an old business building just as a couple guys finished tearing the end off an old shed and I saw it was lettered "URTX." I sez to Pat in a frenzy, "Go around the block!" We went back and she shot the attached pix with her phone. Dark cloudy day, but you can see that perhaps 80 to 90 years ago somebody had nailed two-by-two batts to a wooden refrigerator car and nailed siding over that. Built date is 1920. Interesting to see the preserved true paint colors from that era."
 
Regards,
Bob Chapman

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Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

lrkdbn
 

A nice picture-pity it can't be downloaded...
LR King
This looks to be a PRR class GS gondola to me - Philadelphia PA 1932

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
This looks to be a PRR class GS gondola to me - Philadelphia PA 1932
 
Way too dirty to read any reporting marks...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
Re: Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Clamps, Gary.  Specially cast clamps to hold the ladder stiles close to the car at the midpoint.  There are similar clamps at the top and bottom of the ladders, particularly noticeable at the end ladder.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

 

Great picture!  What are the padlock shaped devices on only one side of each ladder?

 

Gary Laakso

North west of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:45 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

 

Photo: MDT Reefer 16883

Photo courtesy of Mike Robbins on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/40496560693/in/album-72157631664600097/

He writes:

“Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Line (MDT) wooden ice activated Reefer # 16883 (refrigerated box car) is seen at an unknown New Haven Railroad yard location, ca late 1930's.”

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: Box Car flooring question

Andy Laurent
 

Attached is an ad for the Standard steel perforated flooring, installed in a GBW single-sheathed boxcar (which was suitable for flour loading).

Andy L.
Madison, WI
Re: URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Just catching this thread . . .

 

So what’s happened?  Has the car been preserved?  Has some museum been made aware of the car?  Is there hope that an essentially museum piece of a freight car will be given the treatment a survivor deserves?

 

Some years ago I learned that the owner of a short line that operates out of Scranton had a “thing” for TOFC trailers that were lettered for railroads.  I knew of one, and went looking for it again, putting a lot of miles on my car before realizing that it had been boxed in by more trailers.  I alerted this man who withing a few days had driven to Massachusetts, negotiated the acquisition, extracted the car in exchange for some other trailer, and took it back to Scranton for restoration, proudly lettered for the Erie Lackawanna..

 

So it CAN be done and that 101-year-old URTX reefer really deserves a safe and secure home.

 

Do what you can.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:15 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@Realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] URTX/Milw Reefer Survivor

 

Gregg Condon forwarded these recent photos of this URTX/Milw wooden reefer in Winona, Minn., serving as a storage shed, and until recently hidden under falsework siding. 

 

Here's the backstory, In Gregg's words:

 

"Railfanning is wayyy fun, especially when you discover the wayyy unexpected. Pat and I were driving down a street in Winona. We passed an old business building just as a couple guys finished tearing the end off an old shed and I saw it was lettered "URTX." I sez to Pat in a frenzy, "Go around the block!" We went back and she shot the attached pix with her phone. Dark cloudy day, but you can see that perhaps 80 to 90 years ago somebody had nailed two-by-two batts to a wooden refrigerator car and nailed siding over that. Built date is 1920. Interesting to see the preserved true paint colors from that era."

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman

Re: Photo: New Haven Gondola X-598

Tony Thompson
 

Actually the car number is 60610. Excellent collection of chalk marks!

Tony Thompson
an image of a PM ds boxcar in 1907 Philadelphia PA

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
While we could wish for a little better resolution, an image of a PM ds boxcar in 1907 Philadelphia PA
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
Re: Box Car flooring question

Jack Mullen
 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 05:06 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Is this “Dowel-Loc” flooring?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A2364551/datastream/OBJ/view

No, not as far as I can tell.*
Doweloc ( I think that's the correct spelling of the trade name) was a wood flooring product in the form of laminated planks 12" wide, made of narrow tongue-and-grooved strips pressed together and fastened with metal dowels. AFAIK, Doweloc flooring for railcars was introduced in the mid-50s.
What we see in this photo is a wood floor covered with perforated steel protection plates. Standard Railway Equipment Manufacturing Co. was one maker. The holes served several purposes, making a non-skid surface, nailable, and lighter. These plates were commonly installed in the doorway area, less commonly over the entire floor, as here. These plates seem to have been introduced in the 30s, becoming common after WW2, with increased use of forklifts.
The plates were thin, 1/8" or less, so sweeping fairly clean really wasn't a big deal. I do remember some cars in company material service after several decades in revenue use where an accumulation of dust, dirt and grit had worked in between the plates and the underlying wood floor.
I have to admit that I'm missing something in the response implying the car isn't suitable for grain. I get that it's a joke, but I miss the point.
And maybe I'm having a deja vu moment, but didn't this topic come up a year ago?

Jack Mullen
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