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Re: B&O Sentinel Service Boxcars

Brian Carlson
 

What model are you using for these? The plastic models for these have all been inaccurate in one respect or another? 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Apr 25, 2021, at 11:35 PM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:


Allen Cain asked:
"Would the B&O Sentinel Fast Freight Boxcars have travelled off the B&O line or were these in captive service on the B&O?"

They travelled off line.  See post #175868 by Andy Carlson for a photo of one taken in Taylor Yard in LA c. 1958.

Additionally, Ken Braden maintains a web page listing known photos of these cars.


Ben Hom


Re: B&O Sentinel Service Boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Allen Cain asked:
"Would the B&O Sentinel Fast Freight Boxcars have travelled off the B&O line or were these in captive service on the B&O?"

They travelled off line.  See post #175868 by Andy Carlson for a photo of one taken in Taylor Yard in LA c. 1958.

Additionally, Ken Braden maintains a web page listing known photos of these cars.


Ben Hom


Re: Photo: Seaboard Boxcar 24145

Jack Mullen
 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 09:26 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: Seaboard Boxcar 24145

A photo from the University of Wisconsin – Milwaukee Libraries:

https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsnorth/id/10118/rec/43

Another cool photo from lost Chicago.

This is C&NW's State Street Yard, just north of the Chicago River on the line to Navy Pier. We're looking northwest at the State St. bridge over the yard, which forms the north approach to "The" State St. Bridge, the bascule bridge over the river, out of view to the left. The Hertz building at State and Kinzie and the Central Cold Storage Warehouse complex west of Dearborn have been gone about half a century now. Oddly, the only surviving buildings are the small Dutch style gabled brick building and its neighbor, which are now Harry Caray's Steakhouse. 
The yard was for industry switching. It was roughly 3 blocks long and bent into a sort of s curve following the course of the river. With the curves, the overpasses and their supports, it must have been "interesting" to switch. This area was home to one of C&NW's AGEIR boxcabs for a number of years.

But we're here to talk about freight cars, right? So: B&LE AAR boxcar lurking under the bridge; N&W 44743, PS-1; Seaboard 24145, early PS-1 weighed new 10-48, 7' door?; IC 14227, SS boxcar which appears to be an ex-auto car, reweigh 5-52. On the next track, Reading ARA steel boxcar. ; Santa Fe steel boxcar with illegible number. There's a wood bodied ice reefer beyond that, with hatches shut but unlatched. 

Not much to derive from a 6 car sample, but it's interesting that none are home road cars, and only two from roads that reach Chicago. Two date from the teens and twenties, others are "modern".  Seems like a reasonable result for a random grab from the national pool.

Jack Mullen


Re: Photos: Chicago Freight Yard

Mike Clements
 

Damn, I think I meant XTRA. I always get the two mixed up. 
--
Mike Clements
Wakefield, MA
nyc65.wordpress.com


B&O Sentinel Service Boxcars

Allen Cain
 

Would the B&O Sentinel Fast Freight Boxcars have travelled off the B&O line or were these in captive service on the B&O?

Allen Cain

--
Allen Cain
Modeling the Southern in 1955 in HO Scale


Re: The History Of Red Ball - Pioneer HO Kit Manufacturer

Bob Chapman
 

Bob --
 
As one old enough to have bought and built original Red Ball kits, it is interesting to see "the rest of the story".
 
Thanks for passing it on!
Bob Chapman


Re: Movie: Hazards Of Helen - “Leap From the Water Tower” (1915)

Randy Hees
 

The Hazards of Helen were generally shot on the Los Angeles & Salt Lake ( UP) sometimes getting as far east as Los Vegas 

Randy Hees


Re: Photo: Cudahy Reefer CRLX 6100

ROGER HINMAN
 

This series is ACF Lot 2847 delivered in Jul 47. Drawings of this car are availabe at the MOT St Louis library.

Roger Hinman



On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Cudahy Reefer CRLX 6100

A photo from the Penney Vanderbilt And KC Jones website:

https://penneyandkc.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/maybrook_yard_003.jpg

The 1955 Equipment Register lists this car as part of series 5901-6100, RSM reefers with ice tanks.

A note reads, “Not used for chunk ice”.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



L&N 50000-59000 steel gondolas and their rebuilds

Jerry Hamsmith
 

There is a new kit HO scale for this car that will be released by Resin Car Works within the next few weeks, and I am trying to add to the prototype research that has been done so far. 
These all steel coal gondolas were purchased from Pressed Steel Car during the 1920s.  Originally numbered in the 50000-59999 series, the cars had an inside length of 40’ 6” and an inside height of 4’ 7 ½”.  The 50-ton car had a capacity of 1765 cu. ft.  They were equipped with 6 drop doors and their ends were flat with two horizontal reinforcing ribs.  The cars came equipped with 6 parallel drop doors, KD brakes, and lever hand brakes.  As per most L&N cars, they were equipped with Carmer cut levers.  Most of the first groups of cars came with Dalman two-level trucks and the later groups of cars had a simple ARA cast side frame truck.  Beginning in 1950, a number of the cars had their drop doors removed and were reassigned to general service.  The cars were renumbered at that time and given GB designation by the railroad.

It is known that the rebuilds were placed into the 49000 and 29000 series.  We have some photos of the cars added to the 49000 series but none for the 29000 series. Does anyone have photos of the cars from the 29000 series?  Also, many of the rebuilds had additional side posts added and a horizontal reinforcing plate riveted to the inside of each of the car sides.  We have photos of some cars with the added posts.  Might anyone have inside carbody photos of these reinforcing plates or any information about which cars did and which did not receive them?  We do have copies of the Freight Car Diagram sheets for the cars from the 1940 and 1955 books.

Attached is a builders' photo of one of the cars.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: RPCycs for sale

Clark Propst
 

The following are the only volumes left.  Please contact Mike Christenson at: mrcskc95@...

1.14.15.16

Thanks guys,
Clark Propst


Looking for MILW tilted box decal for Sunshine Kit

Chuck Cover
 

Group,

I received the Sunshine MILW kit without the tilted box decals.  I have the other decals for the build but would like to use the more modern version.  Does anyone have a leftover set with the tilted box that was not used?  Please contact me off list at Chuck.cover@...

Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: The History Of Red Ball - Pioneer HO Kit Manufacturer

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Not mentioned in the article is that Red Ball also made N scale items.
 
See links below for their N scale 65ft mill gon kit. I don't know how much other N scale stuff they may have made.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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The History Of Red Ball - Pioneer HO Kit Manufacturer

Courtesy of Ron Rendfeld On the Early Rail Group, an illustrated article on Red Ball by Alan Bussie:

https://www.oldmodelkits.com/blog/plastic-model-kit-history/red-ball-ltd-pioneer-ho-kit-manufacture-since-1939/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Historically appropriate weathering...

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

If you are modeling the 1930s or so like I am (August 1939) you might appreciate a new YouTube video that just came out on weathering…not how to but more what is appropriate. It is at

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNdxETAkvtk

 

Jack Burgess

www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Photo: Canadian Pacific Boxcars

Gavin
 

Ah good old waterfront. The amount of old stock still in service on CPR well into the 60s is great modeling potential, as Fowler's stayed on as well as the Victory Cars and USRA Clones. It's a shame that only the Westerfield kit exists for the Fowlers as CPR owned a massive amount, at 33,000. I myself am modeling a Pacific Great Eastern one out of an Accurails kit, with my photo I'm basing it off being of one of the two they had still in service by 1953.


On Sun, Apr 25, 2021, 10:38 AM John Riddell <riddellj@...> wrote:

 

CP 224367, the third boxcar from the left is a plywood-sheathed “Victory” car built during the war to reduce steel consumption. The Yarmouth resin kit models these cars.

 

John Riddell

 

 

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Movie: Hazards Of Helen - “Leap From the Water Tower” (1915)

Bob Chaparro
 

Movie: Hazards Of Helen - “Leap From the Water Tower” (1915)

Courtesy of Omar Rasidagic on the Facebook Railroad Images of Bygone Days Group:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FqrG7FSFJU

The quality is what you would expect for the time but there is a lot of railroad action in this thirteen-minute film.

Good shots of boxcars at 5:55 and 7:25.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Upgraded Accurail 36’ Fowler Boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

The Erie car is very close to the prototype; the diagonal ‘Z’ braces in the sides have the channels facing up. The only issue is the ends have an extra vertical ‘Z’ brace which I decided to just live with.  The Westerfield decals, while including the later 1930-1950’s small dimensional data, load limits, etc unfortunately leave off a reweigh location and dates.  
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Upgraded Accurail 36’ Fowler Boxcar

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Charlie, now I know what mine needs done!

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Upgraded Accurail 36’ Fowler Boxcar

 

Looking over the research by Ray Breyer  done on the various Fowler boxcars and the clones I decided the Erie boxcar was closest to the Accurail kit.  I ordered an Erie decorated one but I wasn’t pleased with the size of the dimensional lettering (it looked too large) so I ordered an Erie decal set off the Westerfield site as a replacement.  I also sanded down the DS roof and made a new one from Evergreen .010 styrene and 2” x 4” Evergreen strips. 

All the cast on grab irons were carved off and replaced with Westerfield 18” straight grab irons.  Tru-Color MKT brown was used for the carbody. 



--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Upgraded Accurail 36’ Fowler Boxcar

Charlie Duckworth
 

Looking over the research by Ray Breyer  done on the various Fowler boxcars and the clones I decided the Erie boxcar was closest to the Accurail kit.  I ordered an Erie decorated one but I wasn’t pleased with the size of the dimensional lettering (it looked too large) so I ordered an Erie decal set off the Westerfield site as a replacement.  I also sanded down the DS roof and made a new one from Evergreen .010 styrene and 2” x 4” Evergreen strips. 

All the cast on grab irons were carved off and replaced with Westerfield 18” straight grab irons.  Tru-Color MKT brown was used for the carbody. 



--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Photo: Canadian Pacific Boxcars

John Riddell
 

 

CP 224367, the third boxcar from the left is a plywood-sheathed “Victory” car built during the war to reduce steel consumption. The Yarmouth resin kit models these cars.

 

John Riddell

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Photos: Chicago Freight Yard

Jack Mullen
 

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 03:30 PM, Bill Parks wrote:
Does anyone have any information on the piggy back trailers in the pictures?  I've never seen any with a waffle side like those.
Not really a waffle side. These are otherwise normal exterior-post vans which have three horizontal strips welded to the outer faces of the posts as rub rails to protect the posts and side from damage if sideswiped.
The nearest trailers are XTRA 276592 and XRTZ 275933 (I think).  XTRA's early pig trailers seem to have been built for durability. 
Prevalence of 40' trailers on 89' or 85' flats puts this bunch of photos somewhere a bit past the end of the steam era, though  a lot of the boxcars and conventional flats clearly are STMFCs. And to be clear, IIRC both XTRA Inc. and ICC approval of 40' trailers date from c1958.

As Dennis said, cool pictures!

Jack Mullen

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