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Re: Historically appropriate weathering...
Lol, Jack, you wisely chose to model the YV before the railroad was abandoned not too many years later😁 I’ve always admired your work, and the YV, but never more than during our very recent trip to Yosemite when my wife and I had a chance to hike the abandoned ROW, now a trail in full spring bloom, along the Merced River. What a lovely, modelable prototype, which you captured really well, and I consider myself fortunate to have been able to visit both your railroad (some years ago)   Kind regards, Otto
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Re: Photo: Seaboard Boxcar 24145
William Dale
Seems a Reading XMu class box has made an appearance.
William Dale
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Re: C&IM fans are gonna like this 1948-1959
Nelson Moyer
Resin Car Works offers 3D printed Klasing brake wheels. Check out their web site.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 6:51 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&IM fans are gonna like this 1948-1959
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Re: C&IM fans are gonna like this 1948-1959
I also note the Klasing brake wheel. I wish Kadee had a reason to do those. :-) Tim O'Connor
On 4/18/2021 4:44 PM, Claus Schlund wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Chicago Lakefront railyards
Schuyler Larrabee
Why yes, I’d be pleased to take that fire escape on the building to the right. 8^O !1
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 7:25 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Chicago Lakefront railyards
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Re: Photo: Freight Cars On Barges
kevinhlafferty
As noted previously by both Dennis and Bruce there are indeed aft lines securing the tug to the barges; the port aft line is visible in this view taken moments before. Also visible in this view is a considerable amount of slack in the fore barge to barge line which would indicate that the lashing isn’t quite as secure as it might be. I would guess the aft lines are working overtime at this moment. Not having experience in large nautical equipment I have to ask is there some advantage to a V configuration of the barges vs. a more symmetric lash up?
https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsnorth/id/11580/rec/2
Kevin Lafferty
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 2:12 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars On Barges
Having watched barges and tows on the Mississippi River, I know there are winches on the barge, used to tighten all lines. There are also large binders used by the crew to tighten lines that are not directly tied to the tow. This keeps the barges and tow (what the tugs are called on the river) as a rigid single unit. Note the two barges are tied together at the nose, with no visible slack.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of cptracks
Interesting. The tug is churning along under power towards the bottom of the picture. Yet the cables off the tug's bow up to the barges have no slack. How does that work? On 26/04/2021 9:58 a.m., Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
-- Colin Riley 20-2500 Florence Lake Road Victoria BC V9B 4H2
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Re: B&O Timesaver Boccars
On 4/26/2021 9:09 AM, Allen Cain wrote:
Yes, they went off line. Here is a one car Union Pacific transfer job in Kansas City in 1953. -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Chicago Lakefront railyards
Nice web site! Here's a 1926 photo that's not included on the web page.
On 4/26/2021 9:06 AM, Ray Hutchison wrote:
Chicago lakefront railyards - lots of information and photos --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Historically appropriate weathering...
Jack Burgess <jack@...>
Thanks Johannes…
I have read (I think) that equipment was much dirtier after the war because of deferred maintenance during the war. I wisely chose to model the YV before the war started!
Jack
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:32 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Historically appropriate weathering...
Hello Jack,
I don't model the 30s but appreciated your video nonetheless - many thanks. Top-notch as is expected from you. One is always well advised not to "overdo" weathering - but most all rolling stock at photos from after WWII was way dirtier than the YV trains you are showing, at least from what I have seen. On the other hand I usually don't like the looks of extremely weathered engines - I just like them much more though fully painted (that means all the wheel faces too) but clean (especially those with white-edged running boards and wheel rims) - with only few exceptions, like a GN O-8, C&NW H-1, D&RGW L-131, some Santa Fe, some UP, and others. This correlates with the obvious great shape of the YV engines shown at your photos. :-)
Thanks again and many greetings
Johannes Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 2021 um 21:34 Uhr If you are modeling the 1930s or so like I am (August 1939) you might appreciate a new YouTube video that just came out on weathering…not how to but more what is appropriate. It is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNdxETAkvtk
Jack Burgess
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Re: Photo: Freight Cars On Barges
cptracks
Thanks to all who answered. On 26/04/2021 12:12 p.m., Douglas
Harding wrote:
-- Colin Riley 20-2500 Florence Lake Road Victoria BC V9B 4H2
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Re: Fitz-Hugh or Fitzhugh Luther Company, Keweenaw Central Railroad
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Friends, Fitzhugh-Luther was more than just a reseller. They built new freight cars, and sometimes in modest quantities. In 1907 F-L supplied California's Northern Electric Railway with 50 36' boxcars numbered 2000-2049, and 163 40' flatcars numbered 1100-1263. That's a rather odd number, so there may have originally been a few more flat cars, but the NE had a habit of rebuilding flat cars into other types such as gondolas, locomotives and portable substations, and the origins of some rebuilds are not well documented. When I did my research on the SN fleet at the Western Railroad Museum Archives 20 years ago, that's all I was able to trace. Like the sailor's proverbial jack knife, the F-L cars went through a number of improvement and rebuildings programs. A handful lasted in MW service for the successor Sacramento Northern into the 1960s, and one rebuilt flat numbered SN 01449 survives/survived (in pieces) in the CSRM collection in Sacramento. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:36 PM <mmihalo763@...> wrote: I've been working on a roster for a small short lived Michigan short line, the Keweenaw Central railroad. I have the report of original cost to date of freight cars that lists Fitz Hugh as the builder for 6 of their 11 ton flat cars in 1905 (road #101 through 106) purchased in Hammond and the side door caboose, built 1906, #800 purchased in Chicago. Google searches come up that FitzHugh Luther was a car reseller but may have operated what would become the Pullman Standard plant that was in Hammond.
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: DMIR Hopper Cars
Clarence,
Regards, Bruce Smith Auburn, Al
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Clarence Zink <clarence.zink@...>
The coarseness of the material in the piles, the apparent method of loading (overhead traveling crane with clamshell bucket), and the beat to heck open top DMIR hoppers just does not make sense for the title saying "grain piles". I'd bet
the piles are crushed rock, probably limestone, transloaded from a ship to the hoppers.
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ORER 1955 HELP
Lester Breuer
Please check the 1955 Official Railway Equipment Register (ORER) for Fort Dodge , Des Moines & Southern (FtDDM&S or FDDM&S) for , class VS, of series 932 - 946 (evens) on the roster. I have the 1955 CD version; however, not shown there.
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Re: Photo: DMIR Hopper Cars
Clarence Zink
The coarseness of the material in the piles, the apparent method of loading (overhead traveling crane with clamshell bucket), and the beat to heck open top DMIR hoppers just does not make sense for the title saying "grain piles". I'd bet the piles are crushed rock, probably limestone, transloaded from a ship to the hoppers.
CRZ
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Re: Photo: Straddle Carrier And Boxcar With Lumber Load
Charles Whitlatch
Looks like a pretty haphazard way to load lumber. Nice shot of the Straddle Carrier though. Charles Whitlatch
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Fitz-Hugh or Fitzhugh Luther Company, Keweenaw Central Railroad
Matt Mihalo
I've been working on a roster for a small short lived Michigan short line, the Keweenaw Central railroad. I have the report of original cost to date of freight cars that lists Fitz Hugh as the builder for 6 of their 11 ton flat cars in 1905 (road #101 through 106) purchased in Hammond and the side door caboose, built 1906, #800 purchased in Chicago. Google searches come up that FitzHugh Luther was a car reseller but may have operated what would become the Pullman Standard plant that was in Hammond.
Here is a vague picture of the caboose with some other equipment, the plow in front is built from a Duluth & Iron Range 1898 or 99 ore car, built by very likely Pullman Standard that they had 35 of. https://cchi.mtu.edu/system/files/styles/archives_watermark_test/private/258b5643-1887-43b8-878c-8901505bd9f7?itok=Q3nYjWde
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Re: Photo: Freight Cars On Barges
SamClarke
It looks like the trucks are 1954/55 Internationals.
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Re: Historically appropriate weathering...
vapeurchapelon
Hello Jack,
I don't model the 30s but appreciated your video nonetheless - many thanks. Top-notch as is expected from you.
One is always well advised not to "overdo" weathering - but most all rolling stock at photos from after WWII was way dirtier than the YV trains you are showing, at least from
what I have seen.
On the other hand I usually don't like the looks of extremely weathered engines - I just like them much more though fully painted (that means all the wheel faces too) but
clean (especially those with white-edged running boards and wheel rims) - with only few exceptions, like a GN O-8, C&NW H-1, D&RGW L-131, some Santa Fe, some UP, and
others. This correlates with the obvious great shape of the YV engines shown at your photos. :-)
Thanks again and many greetings
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 2021 um 21:34 Uhr
Von: "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> An: RealSTMFC@groups.io Betreff: [RealSTMFC] Historically appropriate weathering... If you are modeling the 1930s or so like I am (August 1939) you might appreciate a new YouTube video that just came out on weathering…not how to but more what is appropriate. It is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNdxETAkvtk
Jack Burgess
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Re: Can anyone establish . . .
ERIE 76918 - no doubt about it
On 4/26/2021 10:48 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Photo: Freight Cars On Barges
Bill Parks
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 03:17 PM, Jerry Michels wrote:
It is interesting to see how they braced the loadAgree, especially of the two stake trucks on the flat car. Also, notice how the stake sides are stored on the flat bed, and secured with what looks like cables -- Bill Parks Cumming, GA Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida
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