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Re: Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

Steven D Johnson
 

L&N #24955 was built by Thrall in January 1965.  The nearly identical 300-ton Southern car #50099 was also built by Thrall in 1/65, and was intended for joint use with the L&N’s car.

 

In March 1963, L&N transported a huge refinery isocracking reactor vessel built by Combustion Engineering in Chattanooga, TN.  At the time, that shipment was the heaviest ever for L&N and possibly for any railroad in the nation; however, L&N had to use 12-axle flat cars from the Pennsy and  Soo Line to haul that monster load.  In 1964, in anticipation of other such shipments, L&N officials decided to purchase the railroad’s own 12-axle flat car, the #24955. 

 

Even though this is beyond the group’s time frame, I thought some would be interested in that background information.

 

Steve Johnson

Nashville, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 11:26 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

 

Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

Photo from the Pullman Library:

https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com/Railroad-R-S/i-GjXMwgB/A

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: B&O Washington D.C. Freight Terminal 1956

kevinhlafferty
 

That's truly amazing, you managed to identify the dirtiest car in that freight yard.

Kevin Lafferty


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:38 PM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

You mean behind the C&O coupled to the “Way of the Eagles” that doesn’t have MP reporting marks.  Yes, I think it is, good eye, Tim.  I just noted the ERIE car in the background behind the ?transfer crane?  That has a 60” diamond.

 

Schuyler

 

 

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 7:16 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O Washington D.C. Freight Terminal 1956

 

 


Is that a weathered Erie box car with the small yellow & black emblem?
Look above the B&O box cars in front, that's the car I mean.


On 5/1/2021 6:57 PM, Scott wrote:

Lot of neat weathering ideas in that photo!

Scott McDonald

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/51040509441/


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

Bill Kelly
 


The car is listed in the Canadian Section of the tariff so is listed in imperial gallons. The car is stencilled in US gallons for some reason. The dome is closer to 216 US gallons.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
Richard Townsend wrote:

And after posting this I see the end lettering says 8,153 gallons. I was looking at the 1955 tank car tariff. I guess the car number got reused or the tank itself was changed.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

This tank car had a capacity of 6,760 gallons, and the unusual dome (check out the riveting around it, plus the shape) was 180 gallons. Aluminum tank with heater coils.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 9:22 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)
Photo from the Pullman Library:
Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.
Built 8-1933. AAR Class 201-A35
Aluminum tank.
Info on the company from the ‘net:
“The Shawinigan Carbide Company, forerunner of Shawinigan Chemicals Limited, was established in 1901 by Thomas Leopold "Carbide" Willson, who invented the carbide manufacturing process in 1892. The plant was sited at Shawinigan Falls, Quebec, in order to take advantage of surplus electric power produced by Shawinigan Water and Power Company, itself established in 1898. In 1909 SWPC gained a controlling interest in Shawinigan Carbide Company and in other Willson companies, and in 1911 reorganized them as the Canada Carbide Company. In 1915 SWPC established the Canadian Electro Products Company to manufacture acetone and other products for the British war effort. With the loss of its markets in 1918, the new company directed its research facilities to the development of chemicals for civilian consumption; thenceforth the company and its successors based their production heavily on original research. In 1927 Canadian Electro Products and Canada Carbide Company were amalgamated as Shawinigan Chemicals Limited.”
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
 



Re: Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

Richard Townsend
 

And after posting this I see the end lettering says 8,153 gallons. I was looking at the 1955 tank car tariff. I guess the car number got reused or the tank itself was changed.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

This tank car had a capacity of 6,760 gallons, and the unusual dome (check out the riveting around it, plus the shape) was 180 gallons. Aluminum tank with heater coils.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 9:22 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)
Photo from the Pullman Library:
Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.
Built 8-1933. AAR Class 201-A35
Aluminum tank.
Info on the company from the ‘net:
“The Shawinigan Carbide Company, forerunner of Shawinigan Chemicals Limited, was established in 1901 by Thomas Leopold "Carbide" Willson, who invented the carbide manufacturing process in 1892. The plant was sited at Shawinigan Falls, Quebec, in order to take advantage of surplus electric power produced by Shawinigan Water and Power Company, itself established in 1898. In 1909 SWPC gained a controlling interest in Shawinigan Carbide Company and in other Willson companies, and in 1911 reorganized them as the Canada Carbide Company. In 1915 SWPC established the Canadian Electro Products Company to manufacture acetone and other products for the British war effort. With the loss of its markets in 1918, the new company directed its research facilities to the development of chemicals for civilian consumption; thenceforth the company and its successors based their production heavily on original research. In 1927 Canadian Electro Products and Canada Carbide Company were amalgamated as Shawinigan Chemicals Limited.”
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

Richard Townsend
 

This tank car had a capacity of 6,760 gallons, and the unusual dome (check out the riveting around it, plus the shape) was 180 gallons. Aluminum tank with heater coils.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Mon, May 3, 2021 9:22 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)

Photo: SWPX Tank Car 202 (Shawinigan Chemicals)
Photo from the Pullman Library:
Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.
Built 8-1933. AAR Class 201-A35
Aluminum tank.
Info on the company from the ‘net:
“The Shawinigan Carbide Company, forerunner of Shawinigan Chemicals Limited, was established in 1901 by Thomas Leopold "Carbide" Willson, who invented the carbide manufacturing process in 1892. The plant was sited at Shawinigan Falls, Quebec, in order to take advantage of surplus electric power produced by Shawinigan Water and Power Company, itself established in 1898. In 1909 SWPC gained a controlling interest in Shawinigan Carbide Company and in other Willson companies, and in 1911 reorganized them as the Canada Carbide Company. In 1915 SWPC established the Canadian Electro Products Company to manufacture acetone and other products for the British war effort. With the loss of its markets in 1918, the new company directed its research facilities to the development of chemicals for civilian consumption; thenceforth the company and its successors based their production heavily on original research. In 1927 Canadian Electro Products and Canada Carbide Company were amalgamated as Shawinigan Chemicals Limited.”
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Mun-Roe

Steve Haas
 

Been wondering about Mike myself.

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Mun-Roe

 

How long has it been since we heard from Mike Brock?

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 

On Monday, April 19, 2021, 10:08:59 AM PDT, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

 

 

Nelson Moyer wrote:

"It must be a pretty slow modeling week for this thread to last this long."

 

Or absent moderators.

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: B&O Washington D.C. Freight Terminal 1956

Schuyler Larrabee
 

You mean behind the C&O coupled to the “Way of the Eagles” that doesn’t have MP reporting marks.  Yes, I think it is, good eye, Tim.  I just noted the ERIE car in the background behind the ?transfer crane?  That has a 60” diamond.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 7:16 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O Washington D.C. Freight Terminal 1956

 


Is that a weathered Erie box car with the small yellow & black emblem?
Look above the B&O box cars in front, that's the car I mean.


On 5/1/2021 6:57 PM, Scott wrote:

Lot of neat weathering ideas in that photo!

Scott McDonald

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/51040509441/


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: CB&Q box car questions

O Fenton Wells
 

should have said....I'll try Jerry, fat fingers.


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:30 PM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Thanks i try jerry.  and Speedwitch now National Scale Car

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:22 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’ll have to send them individually because of the size. Jerry Hamsmith does lots of Q decals, including the XM-32 series. Speedwitch also makes some Q decals. I used Ted’s XM-33 50 ft. boxcar set to do four cars.

 

Jerry Hamsmith

1010 Johnston Drive

Aurora, IL 60506

 

Jerry Hamsmith (hammersr@...)

 

Email him and ask for the latest decal list, as he adds new ones from time to time. Tell him I sent you.

 

Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Nelson, I'd like a cc as well I have 2 of the XM 32's to do.  Who's decals do you recommend?

I have the Burlington Bulletin no.7

Thanks, Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:13 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’m sending Clark three Mainline Modeler article on the XM-32 series offline, together with an unpublished article I wrote on super-detailing an Intermountain kit into a XM-32A. That’s probably more than he wants to know.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Thanks Nelson, appreciate that

Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: CB&Q box car questions

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks i try jerry.  and Speedwitch now National Scale Car


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:22 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’ll have to send them individually because of the size. Jerry Hamsmith does lots of Q decals, including the XM-32 series. Speedwitch also makes some Q decals. I used Ted’s XM-33 50 ft. boxcar set to do four cars.

 

Jerry Hamsmith

1010 Johnston Drive

Aurora, IL 60506

 

Jerry Hamsmith (hammersr@...)

 

Email him and ask for the latest decal list, as he adds new ones from time to time. Tell him I sent you.

 

Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Nelson, I'd like a cc as well I have 2 of the XM 32's to do.  Who's decals do you recommend?

I have the Burlington Bulletin no.7

Thanks, Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:13 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’m sending Clark three Mainline Modeler article on the XM-32 series offline, together with an unpublished article I wrote on super-detailing an Intermountain kit into a XM-32A. That’s probably more than he wants to know.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Thanks Nelson, appreciate that

Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: CB&Q box car questions

Nelson Moyer
 

I’ll have to send them individually because of the size. Jerry Hamsmith does lots of Q decals, including the XM-32 series. Speedwitch also makes some Q decals. I used Ted’s XM-33 50 ft. boxcar set to do four cars.

 

Jerry Hamsmith

1010 Johnston Drive

Aurora, IL 60506

 

Jerry Hamsmith (hammersr@...)

 

Email him and ask for the latest decal list, as he adds new ones from time to time. Tell him I sent you.

 

Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Nelson, I'd like a cc as well I have 2 of the XM 32's to do.  Who's decals do you recommend?

I have the Burlington Bulletin no.7

Thanks, Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:13 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’m sending Clark three Mainline Modeler article on the XM-32 series offline, together with an unpublished article I wrote on super-detailing an Intermountain kit into a XM-32A. That’s probably more than he wants to know.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Thanks Nelson, appreciate that

Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;

 

I never did figure out all the details on these super HD flat cars (I tried), but this is a great illustration as to how they were used.

 

The rotating load supports are very cool.

 

Best I could figure out was that these were GSC castings of ~300-ton capacity, mounted on 4 x 6-wheel roller bearing trucks.  There weren’t a lot of these around:  PRR (similar), Southern, L&N, C&NW.  Those little “webs” connecting the bottom and top flanges with the side seemed to have been a thing on these super HD flats.  There was a little dialog I read on how these were supposed to reduce concentration of stresses to minimize chances of cracking.

 

Thanks for sharing that great photo, Bob!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:26 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

 

Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

Photo from the Pullman Library:

https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com/Railroad-R-S/i-GjXMwgB/A

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reading Gondola 34372 With Load

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bob, Group;

 

I just love that photo.  Everything in there I like:  Nice weathered gon, inside dunnage, great ingot load.

 

Cold, not hot.  Rough ingots for re-heating, re-rolling or re-melt.  Nice chalk marks.

 

I rarely saw heavy steel loads like this with blocking.  They just laid it in, and expected the best:  ingots, slabs, blooms, billets, coil….

 

Interesting with two at one end, three the other.  Not good weight balance.

 

Thanks for sharing!  Made my day.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:20 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Reading Gondola 34372 With Load

 

Photo: Reading Gondola 34372 With Load

Photo from the Pullman Library:

https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com/Railroad-R-S/i-73FkDFv/buy

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Ingots I assume. Not sure why the load is not braced.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: CB&Q box car questions

O Fenton Wells
 

Nelson, I'd like a cc as well I have 2 of the XM 32's to do.  Who's decals do you recommend?
I have the Burlington Bulletin no.7
Thanks, Fenton

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:13 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’m sending Clark three Mainline Modeler article on the XM-32 series offline, together with an unpublished article I wrote on super-detailing an Intermountain kit into a XM-32A. That’s probably more than he wants to know.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Thanks Nelson, appreciate that

Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Photo: Frisco Boxcar 32066

Jim Betz
 

  I don't know if they were popular/unpopular with the brakemen but the coupler
pin pulling equipment on this car sure looks simple and straight forward.
                                                                                                                     - Jim


Re: SP Freight Car Color.

Tim O'Connor
 


My guess is that the photo date is either 1947 or 1948 - The New Haven PS-1 looks brand
new, and was built in 1947.

NH, B_O, ACL, SP, ATSF boxcars in Dallas showing variation in color-PS.jpg

Stock cars could be leased or simply shared under Car Service Directives when there was a
shortage in one area, and a surplus in another area. When you have a large fleet of stock cars
not earning money in the off season, you might be happy to receive those per diem payments.
I first learned about this when I was in high school reading about the great floods in Kansas City
in the 1950's that put thousands of freight cars out of commission resulting in a CSD directing
eastern roads to send stock cars to the midwest to alleviate the sudden shortage. (The article
was in a contemporary issue of Trains magazine.)

Tim O'Connor


On 5/1/2021 9:53 AM, Jim Betz wrote:
Bruce,Tony,Who Ever,

  That color looks a touch too red for my tastes.  I assume you will be weathering
the cars - correct?  I'm not an "SP modeler" but I know a lot of them and have
seen a lot of their work.  And I definitely have some SP cars in my stores/on my
layout (soon).

All,

  What shipment would result in an SP stock car getting all the way to the B&O.
I would expect that most of them would go as far as Chicago (or anywhere 
along the Mississippi) and the stock would be off-loaded for watering and the
car would be sent West and the stock would be loaded into some Eastern
road's cars - if it wasn't slaughtered then and there.  I asking if it would be
common or rare for an SP stock car to make it very far East of the Mississippi?
                                                                                       - Jim 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: CB&Q box car questions

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m sending Clark three Mainline Modeler article on the XM-32 series offline, together with an unpublished article I wrote on super-detailing an Intermountain kit into a XM-32A. That’s probably more than he wants to know.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Thanks Nelson, appreciate that

Fenton

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

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250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: CB&Q box car questions

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Nelson, appreciate that
Fenton

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: CB&Q box car questions

Nelson Moyer
 

CB&Q #81 trucks were Barber S-2 stabilized.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:59 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CB&Q box car questions

 

Clark according to my Burlington Bulletin the 32000 was an XM 32 and had AAR double Truss trucks and the 17000-17799 was an X32B and had A-3 ride control trucks.  17800-18399 was also an XM 32B and had a type 81 truck but if there is an explanation for this truck in the Bulletin, I missed it.  The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert

Just say'in

Fenton

 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I recently picked up two RTR CB&Q box cars. One Intermountain 32000 series and one Branchline Trains 17000 series. I don’t have a lot of info on these cars and would like to make them as correct as I can.

 

The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?

 

Looks like the IM car needs a wood running board, 8 rung ladders and possible P2K trucks?

 

If these assumptions are correct, I would like to know what hand brakes would be appropriate.

 

Thanks,

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Truck spotting- was CB&Q box car questions

Andy Carlson
 

The sheer knowledge, accompanied with huge willingness to help, makes this io group especially great. Our own truck specialist, Brian Leppert helped me years ago quickly ID the two most common post war freight car trucks--the ACF A-3 and the Barber Stabilized S-2.

1st) look for the triangular wedges inside the edges of the bolster. Both trucks show this and quickly notes that these are one of the Big-Two players.
2) If the coil spring perches remain fairly close to the truck side frame--then this is a Barber S-2
3) If the spring perches swell out promonently from the side frame--this is an ACF Rice Control A-3

This bit of quick truck spotting has helped me a lot when looking at vintage photos which aren't always in sharp focus or exposed very well. There may be some mis-identification, but with the huge amounts of both of the subject trucks used this is a good numbers game in truck I.D.ing.
Thanks, Brian!

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

.................. The truck looks like a Barber Stabilized truck.  But I will never qualify as a freight car truck expert
Just say'in
Fenton


The BLT car may be good, except for the trucks that ‘might’ be ASF Ride Control A-3s?
 




Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Chemical Vessel On Southern And L&N HD Flatcars

Photo from the Pullman Library:

https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com/Railroad-R-S/i-GjXMwgB/A

Click on the photo twice for maximum enlargement.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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