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Copper Range twin hopper CR 3039 in 1931

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Copper Range twin hopper CR 3039 in 1931
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: CP Minibox

James Brewer
 

What happened to the tooling?  Any chance these cars will be made available  again?

Jim Brewer

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:44 AM Gavin <senftgav@...> wrote:
Oh that is awesome, I'm so grateful for what you guys did for Canadian modeling. I model PGE/BC Rail and as such you guys are a blessing. 

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:41 PM Randy Hammill <nhrr@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 02:32 PM, Gavin wrote:
Question, are you one of the guys behind TLT?
 
Yes. It was Darren’s company, and I am/was “the other guy.”

Randy
 
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Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

Bruce Griffin
 

I’m sharing a post from the B&0 IO group that would be of interest to some on this list. 
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May 8   

Hello to all.

While looking at pipeline pages I came across this neat photo.

B&O 260986 is a 1940-vintage, Bethlehem Steel, 52’ - 6” steel, flat bottom, drop end, cushion underframe gondola.
 
In the photo it is hauling the first load of 24-inch pipe for the Big Inch and Little Big Inch pipelines built in WW-2.
 
Pipe was made by National Tube but I cannot read the small print to see what city it was.
National Tube had several locations but probably in McKeesport, PA.
 
I searched on the car number and it seems that Tangent Scale Model made a model with this car number. Cool.
 
Photos of National Tube in McKeesport, PA
 
 
 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: CP Minibox

Gavin
 

Oh that is awesome, I'm so grateful for what you guys did for Canadian modeling. I model PGE/BC Rail and as such you guys are a blessing. 


On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:41 PM Randy Hammill <nhrr@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 02:32 PM, Gavin wrote:
Question, are you one of the guys behind TLT?
 
Yes. It was Darren’s company, and I am/was “the other guy.”

Randy
 
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: CP Minibox

Randy Hammill
 

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 02:32 PM, Gavin wrote:
Question, are you one of the guys behind TLT?
 
Yes. It was Darren’s company, and I am/was “the other guy.”

Randy
 
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

Nelson Moyer
 

OOOOPPPPS. That was supposed to be sent off list. Sorry.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 9:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

 

Here are the files plus my construction notes.

 

Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

 

Group,

Does anyone have the instructions to the above kit and is willing to email it to me?  I would appreciate it.  Please contact me off list at chuck.cover@.... Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

Nelson Moyer
 

Here are the files plus my construction notes.

 

Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

 

Group,

Does anyone have the instructions to the above kit and is willing to email it to me?  I would appreciate it.  Please contact me off list at chuck.cover@.... Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

Schleigh Mike
 

Hi Chuck----

I have fond my SM 42.2 instructions and will scan and send as soon as I can.

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

On Saturday, May 8, 2021, 05:59:49 PM EDT, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:


Group,

Does anyone have the instructions to the above kit and is willing to email it to me?  I would appreciate it.  Please contact me off list at chuck.cover@.... Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Six-Wheel MW Trailers

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Seeing Garth's neat photo reminded me that I have a speeder in my pipeline earmarked for the SP.  Years ago Martin gave away  trailer kit at Naperville with decals for numerous railroads.  I have never seen a trailer for the SP.  Hoping that someone else might have.


Bill Pardie


Six-Wheel MW Trailers

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

One one of trips across the country I spotted these two stacked MW trailers in Colorado on the old D&RGW. The negative is, of course, undated and might be before the D&RGW/SP were taken over by the UP. Given the paint condition of the cars, I am betting they were D&RGW and date from well before either merger. 

Obviously they are intended for heavy loads. I have another photo of anaother at Roseville in UP service with a large compressor or other piece of machinery on it. (Of course, I can't find the negative right now, but I spotted it a few days ago. Oy!). 

Anybody know if these cars extended back into the steam era? They would make an interesting model.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


Instructions for Sunshine kit#42.2 B&O M53 Wagontop 40' Boxcar kit

Chuck Cover
 

Group,

Does anyone have the instructions to the above kit and is willing to email it to me?  I would appreciate it.  Please contact me off list at chuck.cover@.... Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: MDT Freight Car Brown

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks for the feedback. I have your book. According to my 1953 ORER, there were 53 car still on the rails in series 43000-43999, so I can model at least one car without era creep. I haven’t seen Tru Color NYC Freight Car Brown (I just noticed my dyslexia popped up in the original post), so I’ll compare it with the alternatives and go with my overall impression of the photos.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ROGER HINMAN via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 3:28 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MDT Freight Car Brown

 

Be careful when looking at color photos and make sure you understand the date it was taken. MDT moved to a more brownish color in the late fifties just about the time NYC boxcars were going green. For the car you want to model, it wouldn’t have lasted that long. A good color reference for the period your car would operate in is the Jack Delano wartime photos.  I have seen no evidence of any color chips used by MDT and the few stencil drawings I have refer to freight car red as you stated. To my eye it appears more red when fresh and fades to brown on more weathered cars. Even though a subsidiary, MDT created its own specifications.

 

Roger Hinman

 

 

On May 8, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

 

I’m ready to paint a wood MDT reefer originally series 19940-19999, renumbered in series 43000-43999 when converted to AB brakes. The few color photos I have of MDT reefers were taken in the orange scheme with freight car red ends and roofs, but the freight car red looks more like a freight car brown. I checked the  RPC Vol 3 freight car color mix table for Floquil, and the recommendation is 1 part D&H Caboose Red and 3 parts Southern Freight Car Brown. I can use the various conversion tables to get a close match to the Floquil colors, but I’d like to know if there is a better option.

 

Tru Color makes NCY Freight Car Brown, and since MDT was a subsidiary of NYC, wouldn’t they use the same boxcar color as NYC? If that’s a valid assumption, I’ll use Tru Color for the ends and roof. If not, what are modelers using today for MDT freight car brown?

 

Nelson Moyer

 


Re: MDT Freight Car Brown

ROGER HINMAN
 

Be careful when looking at color photos and make sure you understand the date it was taken. MDT moved to a more brownish color in the late fifties just about the time NYC boxcars were going green. For the car you want to model, it wouldn’t have lasted that long. A good color reference for the period your car would operate in is the Jack Delano wartime photos.  I have seen no evidence of any color chips used by MDT and the few stencil drawings I have refer to freight car red as you stated. To my eye it appears more red when fresh and fades to brown on more weathered cars. Even though a subsidiary, MDT created its own specifications.

Roger Hinman


On May 8, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

I’m ready to paint a wood MDT reefer originally series 19940-19999, renumbered in series 43000-43999 when converted to AB brakes. The few color photos I have of MDT reefers were taken in the orange scheme with freight car red ends and roofs, but the freight car red looks more like a freight car brown. I checked the  RPC Vol 3 freight car color mix table for Floquil, and the recommendation is 1 part D&H Caboose Red and 3 parts Southern Freight Car Brown. I can use the various conversion tables to get a close match to the Floquil colors, but I’d like to know if there is a better option.
 
Tru Color makes NCY Freight Car Brown, and since MDT was a subsidiary of NYC, wouldn’t they use the same boxcar color as NYC? If that’s a valid assumption, I’ll use Tru Color for the ends and roof. If not, what are modelers using today for MDT freight car brown?
 
Nelson Moyer


Re: Photo: Freight Cars At Algonquin Tannery, Sault Sainte Marie (1932)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
The PERE MARQUETTE car looks to be a USRA ds boxcar, 81465 if I had to guess at the road number from the image.
 
No coupler on the other car loaded with tanbark - just a metal rod loop - maybe the car is simply towed around the facility?
 
The image can be seen in its native resolution at the link below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars At Algonquin Tannery, Sault Sainte Marie (1932)

Photo: Freight Cars At Algonquin Tannery, Sault Sainte Marie (1932)

A photo from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Libraries:

https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsnorth/id/13169/rec/15

Click on the arrows and scroll to enlarge the photo.

Jack Mullen commented that the stacked material appears to be tanbark, a large-volume input to the tanning process.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Re: Photo: Unloading Something From A Boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 11:43 AM, Clarence Zink wrote:
Makes sense that the compartments contain sand, aggregate, and portland cement, any of which, or all, could be unloaded from the boxcar.  Portland was probably in bags, but the sand and aggregate would not need "protection", and could have been loaded and unloaded "loose'.
The scale at the boxcar tells me it's cement. The sand and aggregate are much greater in volume is concrete and can just be proportioned by volume, but the cement was typically done by counting the bags, which was effectively by weight. If the contractor was buying bulk cement, he needed to weigh it out, thus the scale.

Dennis Storzek


Re: CP Minibox

Allan Smith
 

CP 242580 Minibox
 The car arrived on the Sierra RR from the SP Stockton-Oakdale branch on 10-14-52 with a load of fertilizer. The car was returned to the SP at Oakdale on 10-17-52 empty.

Al Smith
Sonora CA

On Saturday, May 8, 2021, 11:32:25 AM PDT, Gavin <senftgav@...> wrote:


Question, are you one of the guys behind TLT?

On Sat, May 8, 2021, 11:31 AM Randy Hammill <nhrr@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 11:55 AM, Mark Rossiter wrote:

 

Al, my True Line Trains version of this car has AB brakes with an Ajax brake wheel.  It has ‘VAN 1947’ markings.  I will leave it to others to determine if this is accurate or not. 

 

Mark Rossiter

 

 Would the photo we used to produce the TLT model be sufficient?



Incidentally, I found a photo of the lumber door in Dave Peters' collection after we produced the tooling:



Randy
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Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Photo: Unloading Something From A Boxcar

Clarence Zink
 

I'd agree with Dennis.  Using his link to the Matich Corp website, and clicking on the photo "first paver" (second row, far right picture) shows a dump truck with a three compartment bed, probably similar to what is being loaded at the boxcar:


Makes sense that the compartments contain sand, aggregate, and portland cement, any of which, or all, could be unloaded from the boxcar.  Portland was probably in bags, but the sand and aggregate would not need "protection", and could have been loaded and unloaded "loose'.

CRZ


Re: CP Minibox

Gavin
 

Question, are you one of the guys behind TLT?


On Sat, May 8, 2021, 11:31 AM Randy Hammill <nhrr@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 11:55 AM, Mark Rossiter wrote:

 

Al, my True Line Trains version of this car has AB brakes with an Ajax brake wheel.  It has ‘VAN 1947’ markings.  I will leave it to others to determine if this is accurate or not. 

 

Mark Rossiter

 

 Would the photo we used to produce the TLT model be sufficient?



Incidentally, I found a photo of the lumber door in Dave Peters' collection after we produced the tooling:



Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: CP Minibox

Randy Hammill
 

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 11:55 AM, Mark Rossiter wrote:

 

Al, my True Line Trains version of this car has AB brakes with an Ajax brake wheel.  It has ‘VAN 1947’ markings.  I will leave it to others to determine if this is accurate or not. 

 

Mark Rossiter

 

 Would the photo we used to produce the TLT model be sufficient?



Incidentally, I found a photo of the lumber door in Dave Peters' collection after we produced the tooling:



Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


MDT Freight Car Brown

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m ready to paint a wood MDT reefer originally series 19940-19999, renumbered in series 43000-43999 when converted to AB brakes. The few color photos I have of MDT reefers were taken in the orange scheme with freight car red ends and roofs, but the freight car red looks more like a freight car brown. I checked the  RPC Vol 3 freight car color mix table for Floquil, and the recommendation is 1 part D&H Caboose Red and 3 parts Southern Freight Car Brown. I can use the various conversion tables to get a close match to the Floquil colors, but I’d like to know if there is a better option.

 

Tru Color makes NCY Freight Car Brown, and since MDT was a subsidiary of NYC, wouldn’t they use the same boxcar color as NYC? If that’s a valid assumption, I’ll use Tru Color for the ends and roof. If not, what are modelers using today for MDT freight car brown?

 

Nelson Moyer

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