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A variety of steel boxcars, Chicago

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A variety of steel boxcars, Chicago
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Well done, Mike!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schleigh Mike via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:26 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

 

The car number is 260986 making it an O-59a (260500-260999) from 1940.

 

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

 

On Monday, May 10, 2021, 08:56:39 AM EDT, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

 

 

Bruce, Group;

 

This guy looks like it might be a B&O O-59.  What do you think?

 

This definitely looks like it is on one of the tracks inside National Tube Company in McKeesport, PA.  That building in back looks like one of the oldies in that plant I saw back in the day while railfanning the area.

 

B&O interchanged here through McKeesport Connecting RR, to their own tracks, also P&LE and PRR.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 3:12 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

 

I’m sharing a post from the B&0 IO group that would be of interest to some on this list. 
--

May 8   #5359  

 

Hello to all.

 

While looking at pipeline pages I came across this neat photo.

 

B&O 260986 is a 1940-vintage, Bethlehem Steel, 52’ - 6” steel, flat bottom, drop end, cushion underframe gondola.

 

In the photo it is hauling the first load of 24-inch pipe for the Big Inch and Little Big Inch pipelines built in WW-2.

 

Pipe was made by National Tube but I cannot read the small print to see what city it was.

National Tube had several locations but probably in McKeesport, PA.

 

I searched on the car number and it seems that Tangent Scale Model made a model with this car number. Cool.

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/product/baltimore-ohio-bo-o-59a-capitol-dome/

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/bethlehem-70-ton-riveted-drop-end-gondola/

 

Photos of National Tube in McKeesport, PA

national tube mckeesport pa

 

 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

Schleigh Mike
 

The car number is 260986 making it an O-59a (260500-260999) from 1940.

Mike Schleigh in Grove City, Penna.

On Monday, May 10, 2021, 08:56:39 AM EDT, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:


Bruce, Group;

 

This guy looks like it might be a B&O O-59.  What do you think?

 

This definitely looks like it is on one of the tracks inside National Tube Company in McKeesport, PA.  That building in back looks like one of the oldies in that plant I saw back in the day while railfanning the area.

 

B&O interchanged here through McKeesport Connecting RR, to their own tracks, also P&LE and PRR.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 3:12 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

 

I’m sharing a post from the B&0 IO group that would be of interest to some on this list. 
--

May 8   #5359  

 

Hello to all.

 

While looking at pipeline pages I came across this neat photo.

 

B&O 260986 is a 1940-vintage, Bethlehem Steel, 52’ - 6” steel, flat bottom, drop end, cushion underframe gondola.

 

In the photo it is hauling the first load of 24-inch pipe for the Big Inch and Little Big Inch pipelines built in WW-2.

 

Pipe was made by National Tube but I cannot read the small print to see what city it was.

National Tube had several locations but probably in McKeesport, PA.

 

I searched on the car number and it seems that Tangent Scale Model made a model with this car number. Cool.

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/product/baltimore-ohio-bo-o-59a-capitol-dome/

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/bethlehem-70-ton-riveted-drop-end-gondola/

 

Photos of National Tube in McKeesport, PA

national tube mckeesport pa

 

 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bruce, Group;

 

This guy looks like it might be a B&O O-59.  What do you think?

 

This definitely looks like it is on one of the tracks inside National Tube Company in McKeesport, PA.  That building in back looks like one of the oldies in that plant I saw back in the day while railfanning the area.

 

B&O interchanged here through McKeesport Connecting RR, to their own tracks, also P&LE and PRR.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Griffin
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 3:12 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] B&O Gon Carrying Big Inch Pipe

 

I’m sharing a post from the B&0 IO group that would be of interest to some on this list. 
--

May 8   

 

Hello to all.

 

While looking at pipeline pages I came across this neat photo.

 

B&O 260986 is a 1940-vintage, Bethlehem Steel, 52’ - 6” steel, flat bottom, drop end, cushion underframe gondola.

 

In the photo it is hauling the first load of 24-inch pipe for the Big Inch and Little Big Inch pipelines built in WW-2.

 

Pipe was made by National Tube but I cannot read the small print to see what city it was.

National Tube had several locations but probably in McKeesport, PA.

 

I searched on the car number and it seems that Tangent Scale Model made a model with this car number. Cool.

 

Photos of National Tube in McKeesport, PA

 

 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

Dave Lawler
 

The ship’s name board shows the letters “FIDE?”.

If someone has an old Lloyds Register they might be able to identify it.

Dave Lawler

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

Gavin
 

It would be like shipping copper to Britannia Beach :).


On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 7:46 PM Chuck Soule <timken2626@...> wrote:
I would suspect it is much more likely the lumber is being loaded ONTO the ship to go elsewhere.  There would be little need to ship lumber TO Vancouver Island :)

Chuck Soule


Re: New HO scale freight car kits

lrkdbn
 

You have a point, but I suspect there are a lot of engineering considerations involved in making a master for a one piece open top car that make it much different from making a  one off model.Unless it could be of similar quality to,for example, the RCW ICRR hopper in regard to side wall thickness, etc. it wouldn't be worth doing, and I don't have that knowledge.
L King


Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

Chuck Soule
 

I would suspect it is much more likely the lumber is being loaded ONTO the ship to go elsewhere.  There would be little need to ship lumber TO Vancouver Island :)

Chuck Soule


Re: L&N 58946 40ft steel gon in 1926

kevinhlafferty
 

That's one of the L&N gondolas that the new Resin Car Works kit is based on.

Kevin Lafferty


Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

Richard Wilkens
 

Name on the ship is the "Fides" which was a WW2 Liberty Ship and was sold to an Italian shipping company and it sunk in the Elbe estuary on January 20, 1962.

Rich Wilkens


Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

Larry Rice
 

Greetings,

Almost certainly Canadian National, being unloaded and the lumber loaded directly aboard ship at Cowichan Bay on Vancouver Island.

Watch this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b5GBPmwoZo

Larry Rice
Port Townsend  WA
Within sight of Vancouver Island


Re: CV 41353 (40ft ss auto box) and CN 508731 (40ft ss box) on Vancouver Island

David Soderblom
 

I’m going to say these are poles, not logs. Logs get sawn into lumber, but poles are poles, probably for further treatment.

Sent from my tricorder


Re: [Classic-UP] Private cars used for UP fuel oil and diesel

Allan Smith
 

This was probably a car that was damaged on the UP and the original car owner didn't want to pay for the repairs. The UP probably determined that the car could be repaired in UP shops at little cost and used in MOW service.

Al Smith
Sonora CA

On Saturday, May 8, 2021, 05:10:12 AM PDT, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:


Ray,

No prototype at all. Yes, there were three-compartment tank cars, but nearly all were much smaller than the Athearn . . . uh . . . model. The tank size represents a total volume of about 12,000 gallons. Most triples were 8,000 or smaller. The Athearn offering is trainset junk, as are/were several knock-offs by other trainset manufacturers.

The only correct plastic model of a three compartment tank car that I can think of is Tangent's 6,000 gallon General American car, currently not in production: https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/general-american-6000-gal-3-comp-tank-car/ . IIRC, there have been one or two resin kits for this type of car, and of course there have been brass models of varying quality and accuracy.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆



On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:20 AM Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...> wrote:
Book (above) and there was an Athearn model of three-dome tank car.  Not certain how true to prototype it might be.

https://www.pwrs.ca/announcements/view.php?ID=9181

rh


Re: SEEKING DECAL HELP

Robert Daniels
 

Hi Bill, I have one from Sunshine 64.33 if that works for you. Just promise me you won't put it on the other side of the cat.

Rob Daniels
New York, NY

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 04:43:02 PM EDT, WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:



I am in need of the BUY WAR BOND decals from the Sunshine kit #64-32 Santa Fe Bx-36 box car
kit.  List member John Barry has produced these decals , however, the sizing is not quite the same as the original kit.  I spoiled the lettering on one side of the cat and am looking for an exact match.
Hoping (praying) to find a match.

Bill Pardie

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SEEKING DECAL HELP

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


I am in need of the BUY WAR BOND decals from the Sunshine kit #64-32 Santa Fe Bx-36 box car
kit.  List member John Barry has produced these decals , however, the sizing is not quite the same as the original kit.  I spoiled the lettering on one side of the cat and am looking for an exact match.
Hoping (praying) to find a match.

Bill Pardie

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


Buckeye Ends!

Andy Carlson
 

One more ride on the horse from me advising the use of the Branchline Models' Yardmaster '37 AAR kit; its use for a Chad Buckeye end. Unlike the other two formerly easily available '37 AAR box car kits, the Yardmaster features an earlier single stringer under frame. The molded on parts have the most problematic portions for removal done by the use of mold-on-free replacement ends, as the  end ladders and brakes are the most challenging part of a Richard Hendrickson level of redetailing, as the sides need ladders and bracket grabs removed from a flat field, being the simplist (easiest) of the parts removal. The roof is also a separate part, facilitating using a Viking roof or a flat panel roof, and not to forget its very good rectangular panel roof which is much better than the poor Intermountain '37 raised panel roof. Be sure to save this Yardmaster roof if one's project uses a replacement roof! The end replacement of a square corner 4/5 Dreadnaught resin end (without molded on details) is also being made by me and possible use of a Details associates Dreadnaught end.

I intend to send a photo in a few days of a new resin flat panel roof to this site. Hutchins roofs can be salvaged from an Accurail Canadian 40' SS box car kit. This style of project work is the kind which folks like Ben Hom enjoy due to kit bashing with available alternate parts.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 11:09:43 AM PDT, irv_thomae <irvthomae@...> wrote:


As many reading this will already know, anyone trying to model Erie's mid-1936 lot of 500 "1937 AAR" 10' IH boxcars will quickly encounter the problem of finding Buckeye ends for them.   About a month ago, I asked Chad Boas if he had any of the appropriate size, and his answer basically was "No, but I might be able to make some."   Fortunately excellent documentation was available in RP CYC #35, which includes both a dimensioned drawing and a very clear end-on photograph.

   Yesterday afternoon, I received a photo from Chad showing a pair of resin Buckeye ends. You can find ordering and shipping information on his general price list at <http://resincarworks.com/boas_kitlist_201506.pdf>  The new Buckeye ends aren't on that list yet, but he's pricing them just like his other boxcar ends, and he said he'd be happy to have me "pass the word."

  (I do plan to cross-post this info two other relevant groups, but I have no business connection with Chad except as a customer.)
   
Irv


Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

cptracks
 

I cannot identify the flat car, but it appears that the ship is not one of the CP Pacific Prinesses, as none of their single stackers seem to have been set up that way.

On 09/05/2021 9:12 a.m., Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island. I'm not quite able to read the road name, but some of us who are more familiar with Canadian roads will probably know right away. Car is stencilled BLT 3-50 and the length is indicated as 52ft.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

 
-- 
Colin Riley
20-2500 Florence Lake Road
Victoria BC V9B 4H2


Buckeye Ends!

irv_thomae
 

As many reading this will already know, anyone trying to model Erie's mid-1936 lot of 500 "1937 AAR" 10' IH boxcars will quickly encounter the problem of finding Buckeye ends for them.   About a month ago, I asked Chad Boas if he had any of the appropriate size, and his answer basically was "No, but I might be able to make some."   Fortunately excellent documentation was available in RP CYC #35, which includes both a dimensioned drawing and a very clear end-on photograph.

   Yesterday afternoon, I received a photo from Chad showing a pair of resin Buckeye ends. You can find ordering and shipping information on his general price list at <http://resincarworks.com/boas_kitlist_201506.pdf>  The new Buckeye ends aren't on that list yet, but he's pricing them just like his other boxcar ends, and he said he'd be happy to have me "pass the word."

  (I do plan to cross-post this info two other relevant groups, but I have no business connection with Chad except as a customer.)
   
Irv


Re: Box Car flooring question

Tim O'Connor
 


Perforated steel plate was used in a lot of box cars, applied over the wood floor. I assumed
the holes were there for making it possible to nail into the floor. I think the purpose in many cases
was to protect the floor in the doorway which probably took a lot of abuse.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/21/2021 8:06 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Group;

 

Is this “Dowel-Loc” flooring?

 

https://digital.hagley.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A2364551/datastream/OBJ/view

 

I have been trying to figure out that story.

 

I imagine some debris collected in the holes that required occasional cleaning.  Big vacuum cleaner!

 

Elden Gatwood



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photo: Assorted Santa Fe Boxcars & Reefers (1910)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Assorted Santa Fe Boxcars & Reefers (1910)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/12014/rec/209

Click on the arrows and scroll to enlarge the photo.

The Santa Fe San Bernardino ice plant and power house was located in the “B” Yard.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup

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