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Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Charlie,
 
Thanks, that was my error. The corrected 'second link' is shown below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus-

The second link to “A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934” doesn’t take you to the base page with the photo information.

I can’t place the location.   It isn’t east or west of the Wells Street station as the depot(?) clock tower is different.  Doesn’t look like the “potato yard” at Western Avenue….

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
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>> 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past <<

 

For me, still less than 90 years... ;-)

 

Johannes

Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954

 

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Hi List Members,

 

A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past

 

"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"

 

It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!

 

 

Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...

 

(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date

 

(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic

 

(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity

 

More info can be found at the link below...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 
Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Resemble Grease

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’m somewhat surprised nobody’s mentioned using dirty black colors in acrylic paint form.  Liquitex is the best known brand with a very wide range of colors.  Use it directly from the tube, it will (slowly) dry in 3D form if that’s what you  want.

 

Schuyler

 

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Depends what type of grease you want to represent, but for some grease, (graphite based ones?)ordinary pencil lead or powdered graphite as used to lubricate Kadee couplings can leave a greasy look in weathering.

 

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Re: New HO scale freight car kits

Ken Soroos
 

Hi Scott -

The Soo Line introduced its 4’ block billboard lettering on new 40’ boxcars during its 1951 production run at its North Fond du Lac Shops, WI.  I’ll try to attach a photo of one of the 1940 Wisconsin Central cars repainted with this lettering in 1952.  Surprisingly, it seems to have been repainted with black ends, which were eliminated during new car production in 1951.  The weigh date information is “AX 2 52.”  AX is the shop designation for Stevens Point, WI.

Ken Soroos


Ken, out of curiosity do you know the dates when the lettering changed on the cars?

Thanks 
Scott McDonald 

On May 7, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Ken Soroos <kensoroos@...> wrote:

Yes, Matt.  The kit includes the as-built Pullman-Standard lettering for Soo Line (and DSS&A for the other kit).

Ken Soroos

On May 7, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Matthew Hurst <handbt33@...> wrote:

Any chance that Soo line car has 1940s era lettering included? 

Just wondering. 

Thanks

Matthew Hurst



On May 7, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Resin Car Works has released a couple new HO scale freight car kits. The release announcement for the L&N steel gondola and Soo/DSS&A boxcar kits is posted on the RCW blog.
http://blog.resincarworks.com/new-rcw-gondola-and-boxcar-kits/


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

Charlie,

I think I'm seeing the Board of Trade building in the fog at the left, so it's someplace in the freight house district between Grand Central and Dearborn Station.

Dennis Storzek
Ad: Solid Journal Bearings (1952)

Bob Chaparro
 

Ad: Solid Journal Bearings (1952)

Making a case for old technology.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Charlie Vlk
 

Claus-

The second link to “A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934” doesn’t take you to the base page with the photo information.

I can’t place the location.   It isn’t east or west of the Wells Street station as the depot(?) clock tower is different.  Doesn’t look like the “potato yard” at Western Avenue….

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:15 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

 

>> 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past <<

 

For me, still less than 90 years... ;-)

 

Johannes

Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954

 

Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 um 16:47 Uhr
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An: "STMFC" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Hi List Members,

 

A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past

 

"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"

 

It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!

 

 

Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...

 

(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date

 

(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic

 

(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity

 

More info can be found at the link below...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 
Ad: Save A Freight Car (World War I)

Bob Chaparro
 

Ad: Save A Freight Car (World War I)

I never knew a truck manufacturer cared so much for the railroads.

Maybe Packard was just being patriotic.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
 

 
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

vapeurchapelon
 

>> 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past <<
 
For me, still less than 90 years... ;-)
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954
 
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 um 16:47 Uhr
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An: "STMFC" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
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Hi List Members,
 
A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past
 
"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"
 
It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!
 
 
Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...
 
(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date
 
(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic
 
(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity
 
More info can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Tim O'Connor
 

Claus

That's pretty amazing! On the other hand, that may be EXACTLY why the photograph was taken. :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 5/10/2021 11:29 AM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi Tim and List Members,
 
Another thing to notice - the NYC steel boxcar closest to thte camera is being unloaded - boxes and boxes of RINSO.
 
Now look two cars back from there, a second NYC steel boxcar loaded with boxes of RINSO.
 
Now look at the next car back from there (USRA ss boxcar, road name unknown) - it is also full of boxes of RINSO.
 
Now look at the truck parked there - LOUIS DOBBRATZ SOAD DISTRIBUTORS! Think they might sell RINSO?
 
Now look at the fully loaded horse cart just past the DOBBRATZ truck - it is full to the top with - you guessed it - RINSO boxes
 
I bet the railroad crews simply refered to this as the RINSO track!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] A variety of steel boxcars, Chicago

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice job, Tim!

 

Here’s a few more of these guys.

 

No one I know of is doing the u/f for these cars, but they should be.

 

Late long taper IDE, 5-panel riveted sides with 8 ft Ytown door, gussets, and OH diag panel roof, plus unique u/f.  Some had Universal brakes, at least some, Morton r/b’s.  Later groups had different interior equipment, including either Stage Loaders or STB equipment.  See doors for variations on that theme.  And they did change over time.

 

I have not seen the definitive write-up on these sub-classes.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

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605941 - X29G


On 5/10/2021 10:55 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

That is a fabulous collection of cars.

 

I don’t know the classes of many cars, but I think the PRR box car to left is either class X29F or X29G, due to carbody, lettering in late Shadow Keystone sans serif “PRR”, and the deep side sill with “box” supports.

 

I think the car number begins with “605”, but can anyone make out the complete car number?

 

These cars were often used in appliance shipment out of mid-west states like Ohio and Indiana.  Its appearance in Chicago empty could make sense.

 


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Box Car flooring question

Tim O'Connor
 


Rejection of empty cars by shippers is a common occurence. I don't know anyone who
"models" it (or cleanout tracks, for that matter), but it's definitely a part of real railroading.

Tim O'Connor


On 4/21/2021 11:18 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Fritz, you made my day!

 

I won’t stop smiling!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

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Woe betide the man who accidentally sends this car to a grain elevator for loading...
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Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Jim and List members,
 
Jim wrote: "I love the guy in the light colored hat who is looking directly at the camera!"
 
I noticed that too! He's the big boss, not going to get his clothes dirty!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Betz
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus,
  I love the guy in the light colored hat who is looking directly at the camera!

  I noticed that the 'crews' at the individual cars that are unloading all seem to be
food/household goods.  And that all of them seem to be unloading product in
cardboard boxes.  No reefers in this line of cars.

  "A busy time at the team track" ... INDEED.  I have never seen a team track
that long nor one with anything even close to that many cars.  Each guy 
probably had to "check in" to get the car number for his load.  Most of them
seem to be only one or two guys doing the unloading from the train ... so
they were going to be there for a little while.  

  Question - is this a "30's scene" that was replaced by palletized loads
that were unloading in a freight dock soon after?
                                                                                                       - Jim
                                                                                                                            - Jim

For sale

Stephen Bishop
 

At $20.00 each (including postage

 one Ivers Engineering GE 70 ton locomotive body kit only.

One Northeastern Scale models HF1 MEC/BAR pulpwood car kit (less t/c, with decals)

Steve Bishop
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Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Jim Betz
 

Claus,
  I love the guy in the light colored hat who is looking directly at the camera!

  I noticed that the 'crews' at the individual cars that are unloading all seem to be
food/household goods.  And that all of them seem to be unloading product in
cardboard boxes.  No reefers in this line of cars.

  "A busy time at the team track" ... INDEED.  I have never seen a team track
that long nor one with anything even close to that many cars.  Each guy 
probably had to "check in" to get the car number for his load.  Most of them
seem to be only one or two guys doing the unloading from the train ... so
they were going to be there for a little while.  

  Question - is this a "30's scene" that was replaced by palletized loads
that were unloading in a freight dock soon after?
                                                                                                       - Jim
                                                                                                                            - Jim
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi Tim and List Members,
 
Another thing to notice - the NYC steel boxcar closest to thte camera is being unloaded - boxes and boxes of RINSO.
 
Now look two cars back from there, a second NYC steel boxcar loaded with boxes of RINSO.
 
Now look at the next car back from there (USRA ss boxcar, road name unknown) - it is also full of boxes of RINSO.
 
Now look at the truck parked there - LOUIS DOBBRATZ SOAD DISTRIBUTORS! Think they might sell RINSO?
 
Now look at the fully loaded horse cart just past the DOBBRATZ truck - it is full to the top with - you guessed it - RINSO boxes
 
I bet the railroad crews simply refered to this as the RINSO track!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus

Horses == TEAMS => TEAMSTERS => TEAM TRACKS :-D

Railroads in the Chicago area had many of these team track yards - tracks with space in between
for teams and later for trucks. Team tracks still exist to serve offline customers with carload service.

Tim O'Connor


On 5/10/2021 10:47 AM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past
 
"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"
 
It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!
 
 
Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...
 
(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date
 
(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic
 
(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity
 
More info can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Flat car with lumber load Vancouver Island

Larry Rice
 

Yes, as I wrote and is clearly shown in the video I provided the link to, the lumber is being loaded onto the ship. 

The flatcars were loaded in the vicinity of Lake Cowichan, roughly centered in the southernmost portion of the island, and then taken eastward to saltwater at Cowichan Bay.

This was an export operation in Cowichan Bay on the eastern shore of Vancouver Island.

Larry Rice
Port Townsend  WA
Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Tim O'Connor
 

Claus

Horses == TEAMS => TEAMSTERS => TEAM TRACKS :-D

Railroads in the Chicago area had many of these team track yards - tracks with space in between
for teams and later for trucks. Team tracks still exist to serve offline customers with carload service.

Tim O'Connor


On 5/10/2021 10:47 AM, Claus Schlund wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past
 
"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"
 
It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!
 
 
Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...
 
(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date
 
(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic
 
(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity
 
More info can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] A variety of steel boxcars, Chicago

Tim O'Connor
 


605941 - X29G


On 5/10/2021 10:55 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

That is a fabulous collection of cars.

 

I don’t know the classes of many cars, but I think the PRR box car to left is either class X29F or X29G, due to carbody, lettering in late Shadow Keystone sans serif “PRR”, and the deep side sill with “box” supports.

 

I think the car number begins with “605”, but can anyone make out the complete car number?

 

These cars were often used in appliance shipment out of mid-west states like Ohio and Indiana.  Its appearance in Chicago empty could make sense.

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
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