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Re: New HO scale freight car kits

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 03:33 PM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
Tim, I think that end is just dirty.
I agree with Tim, since the cars had car cement on the ends when built, and it's not a foregone conclusion that the few cars that got the Soo Locks commemorative paint scheme actually received full repaints.

Dennis Storzek


Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 12:22 PM, jace6315 wrote:
I wonder what was so noteworthy about several carloads of soap that the brass hats and the photographer came out to the team track on a cold day in Chicago in the 1930's.
 
Actually, the photo is in Milwaukee. Could be that far north soap that you didn't have to make yourself from bear grease and wood ashes was still a novel concept in 1934. More likely the sales rep for Rinso wanted to run a newspaper ad showing that the city was all washed up now that Rinso was in town, and arranged for all his accounts to come to the team track when the photographer was there. That likely also explains why all the trucks and wagons are turned to display their owners names. I bet the Al Capone look-alike in the light colored hat is the sales rep, wondering how much longer the photographer is going to spend taking this photo and what the bill is going to be.

Dennis Storzek
 


Re: New HO scale freight car kits

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Tim, I think that end is just dirty.

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 3:20 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New HO scale freight car kits

 


Ken, here is another repaint that appears to have received black paint on the ends or it is
the original paint, and they just left it alone. I've seen many partial repaints of freight cars!

Tim O'Connor


On 5/10/2021 1:56 PM, Ken Soroos wrote:

Hi Scott -

 

The Soo Line introduced its 4’ block billboard lettering on new 40’ boxcars during its 1951 production run at its North Fond du Lac Shops, WI.  I’ll try to attach a photo of one of the 1940 Wisconsin Central cars repainted with this lettering in 1952.  Surprisingly, it seems to have been repainted with black ends, which were eliminated during new car production in 1951.  The weigh date information is “AX 2 52.”  AX is the shop designation for Stevens Point, WI.

 

=======================

Ken, out of curiosity do you know the dates when the lettering changed on the cars?

Thanks 
Scott McDonald 



On May 7, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Ken Soroos <kensoroos@...> wrote:

Yes, Matt.  The kit includes the as-built Pullman-Standard lettering for Soo Line (and DSS&A for the other kit).

Ken Soroos



On May 7, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Matthew Hurst <handbt33@...> wrote:

 

Any chance that Soo line car has 1940s era lettering included?

Just wondering.

Thanks

Matthew Hurst

 

On May 7, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Eric Hansmann <wrote:

Resin Car Works has released a couple new HO scale freight car kits. The release announcement for the L&N steel gondola and Soo/DSS&A boxcar kits is posted on the RCW blog.

 

 

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--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Jim Betz
 

  I -knew- that guy in the light hat ... his name was Fred Rinso ... and he was a
son-of-a-bitch to work for, you could never work fast enough or long enough to
get a single word of praise from him for a job well done.  *G*
                                                                                                                   - Jim


Re: Munising Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Well, I am messing up left and right today! See corrected link below.
 
 
While we're at it, see a third view below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Munising Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930

Hi List Members,
 
We see a second view of Munising Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 - a PRR class GLa design clone - in 1930. I think I spelled Munising correctly this time - I hope!
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:54 PM
Subject: Munsing Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930

Hi List Members,
 
Munsing Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930. It appears to be identical to a PRR class GL hopper in its design.
 
 
Note the four-wheeled 'critter' locomotive that is pushing the car, only barely visible, operator looking at the camera.
 
I assume this car never left the plant? It perhaps just moved coal from the dock into the plant and never left the grounds?
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: Munising Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
We see a second view of Munising Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 - a PRR class GLa design clone - in 1930. I think I spelled Munising correctly this time - I hope!
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:54 PM
Subject: Munsing Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930

Hi List Members,
 
Munsing Paper Co twin hopper 78-3 in 1930. It appears to be identical to a PRR class GL hopper in its design.
 
 
Note the four-wheeled 'critter' locomotive that is pushing the car, only barely visible, operator looking at the camera.
 
I assume this car never left the plant? It perhaps just moved coal from the dock into the plant and never left the grounds?
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Canada, rail yards at fruit distributor in North Bay 1934

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
"Canada, rail yards at fruit distributor in North Bay" in 1934
 
We see four freight cars, none of them have reporting marks that I can reliably discern, but I do see from left to right...
 
A Dominion type ss boxcar
A CN 40ft ss boxcar
An unidentified tank car with high walkway
A boxcar (possibly steel, road name might be CP)
 
 
Note that the first three cars are likely each serving a different rail-served customer, yet they are all three situated on the same stretch of track. This means that spotting or pulling a car may require temporarily shuffling the rest of them. This is a definite space-saver on a model railroad, wouldn't you agree?
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Horses were still around the Detroit area until, maybe, 1950-51. Not at all common, but still around. The ones I remember were pulling small vendor wagons making local deliveries of produce, milk, ice, etc. I can’t remember exactly … I was only a few years old then, but I remember them clomping along the street. Always attracted the kids, something just a bit unusal. Such wagons were far outnumbered by assorted small trucks.

I also remember, in the same time frame, lots of chain-drive trucks and solid-rubber-tires (on metal or wood spoked wheels). Big “AC” Macks and others. Again, not the norm, but very much still around.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On May 10, 2021, at 3:52 PM, CJ Riley via groups.io <cjriley42@...> wrote:


Horses were used later than most folks think. Milk and bread were delivered to homes in my neighborhood in Toronto as late as 1949 when we moved to “rural” North Yorke where trucks were used. When I told my parents I missed the horses I was told they got too tired walking all the way from the city.




Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Charlie Vlk
 

Claus-

Now I understand….the photo is not in Chicago; the station in the background to the North is the C&NW Milwaukee Lakefront depot.

East Buffalo and North Jackson St.   Jackson Boulevard in Chicago is near the south loop and runs east-west and there aren’t any C&NW facilities on it.

Great photo, though!!!

Charlie Vlk

 

Rinso as a laundry soap brand lasted to the mid-1960s.  Introduced in 1918 it was one of the first mass-marketed soap powders.   Lever Brothers changed the name to Surf which is still being sold.   The Rinso name was sold to 99 Cents Only Stores and they use in the United States only for an in-store line of cleaning products.   The Rinso brand is still used in the Turkish, Asian, Indonesian and Central American markets by Lever Brothers.

 


Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Obviously not my best day - I need to pay more attention!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:49 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
Thanks, that was my error. The corrected 'second link' is shown below...
 
Well, that helps with the confusion... the scene is in Milwaukee, not Chicago, in which case the clock tower is the old C&NW Lake Front Station.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Resemble Grease

Jim Sabol
 

Thanks, Schuy. Great idea. Texture is as important as color. Jim here.

 

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Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

CJ Riley <cjriley42@...>
 


Horses were used later than most folks think. Milk and bread were delivered to homes in my neighborhood in Toronto as late as 1949 when we moved to “rural” North Yorke where trucks were used. When I told my parents I missed the horses I was told they got too tired walking all the way from the city.



Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

jace6315
 

Looks to me that all the cars have the same cargo: boxes of Rinso soap. I wonder what was so noteworthy about several carloads of soap that the brass hats and the photographer came out to the team track on a cold day in Chicago in the 1930's.

Jim Matthews

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On Monday, May 10, 2021 2:49 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi Charlie,
 
Thanks, that was my error. The corrected 'second link' is shown below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus-

The second link to “A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934” doesn’t take you to the base page with the photo information.

I can’t place the location.   It isn’t east or west of the Wells Street station as the depot(?) clock tower is different.  Doesn’t look like the “potato yard” at Western Avenue….

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:15 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

 

>> 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past <<

 

For me, still less than 90 years... ;-)

 

Johannes

Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954

 

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Hi List Members,

 

A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past

 

"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"

 

It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!

 

 

Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...

 

(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date

 

(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic

 

(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity

 

More info can be found at the link below...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 




Re: New HO scale freight car kits

Tim O'Connor
 


Ken, here is another repaint that appears to have received black paint on the ends or it is
the original paint, and they just left it alone. I've seen many partial repaints of freight cars!

Tim O'Connor


On 5/10/2021 1:56 PM, Ken Soroos wrote:

Hi Scott -

The Soo Line introduced its 4’ block billboard lettering on new 40’ boxcars during its 1951 production run at its North Fond du Lac Shops, WI.  I’ll try to attach a photo of one of the 1940 Wisconsin Central cars repainted with this lettering in 1952.  Surprisingly, it seems to have been repainted with black ends, which were eliminated during new car production in 1951.  The weigh date information is “AX 2 52.”  AX is the shop designation for Stevens Point, WI.

=======================
Ken, out of curiosity do you know the dates when the lettering changed on the cars?

Thanks 
Scott McDonald 

On May 7, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Ken Soroos <kensoroos@...> wrote:
Yes, Matt.  The kit includes the as-built Pullman-Standard lettering for Soo Line (and DSS&A for the other kit).
Ken Soroos

On May 7, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Matthew Hurst <handbt33@...> wrote:

Any chance that Soo line car has 1940s era lettering included?
Just wondering.
Thanks
Matthew Hurst


On May 7, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Eric Hansmann <wrote:
Resin Car Works has released a couple new HO scale freight car kits. The release announcement for the L&N steel gondola and Soo/DSS&A boxcar kits is posted on the RCW blog.


Attachments:



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:49 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
Thanks, that was my error. The corrected 'second link' is shown below...
 
Well, that helps with the confusion... the scene is in Milwaukee, not Chicago, in which case the clock tower is the old C&NW Lake Front Station.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Buckeye Ends!

rdgbuff56
 

Andy,
That link doesn't work.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 03:36:24 PM EDT, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


One more ride on the horse from me advising the use of the Branchline Models' Yardmaster '37 AAR kit; its use for a Chad Buckeye end. Unlike the other two formerly easily available '37 AAR box car kits, the Yardmaster features an earlier single stringer under frame. The molded on parts have the most problematic portions for removal done by the use of mold-on-free replacement ends, as the  end ladders and brakes are the most challenging part of a Richard Hendrickson level of redetailing, as the sides need ladders and bracket grabs removed from a flat field, being the simplist (easiest) of the parts removal. The roof is also a separate part, facilitating using a Viking roof or a flat panel roof, and not to forget its very good rectangular panel roof which is much better than the poor Intermountain '37 raised panel roof. Be sure to save this Yardmaster roof if one's project uses a replacement roof! The end replacement of a square corner 4/5 Dreadnaught resin end (without molded on details) is also being made by me and possible use of a Details associates Dreadnaught end.

I intend to send a photo in a few days of a new resin flat panel roof to this site. Hutchins roofs can be salvaged from an Accurail Canadian 40' SS box car kit. This style of project work is the kind which folks like Ben Hom enjoy due to kit bashing with available alternate parts.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 11:09:43 AM PDT, irv_thomae <irvthomae@...> wrote:


As many reading this will already know, anyone trying to model Erie's mid-1936 lot of 500 "1937 AAR" 10' IH boxcars will quickly encounter the problem of finding Buckeye ends for them.   About a month ago, I asked Chad Boas if he had any of the appropriate size, and his answer basically was "No, but I might be able to make some."   Fortunately excellent documentation was available in RP CYC #35, which includes both a dimensioned drawing and a very clear end-on photograph.

   Yesterday afternoon, I received a photo from Chad showing a pair of resin Buckeye ends. You can find ordering and shipping information on his general price list at <http://resincarworks.com/boas_kitlist_201506.pdf>  The new Buckeye ends aren't on that list yet, but he's pricing them just like his other boxcar ends, and he said he'd be happy to have me "pass the word."

  (I do plan to cross-post this info two other relevant groups, but I have no business connection with Chad except as a customer.)
   
Irv


Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Charlie,
 
Thanks, that was my error. The corrected 'second link' is shown below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Claus-

The second link to “A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934” doesn’t take you to the base page with the photo information.

I can’t place the location.   It isn’t east or west of the Wells Street station as the depot(?) clock tower is different.  Doesn’t look like the “potato yard” at Western Avenue….

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:15 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

 

>> 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past <<

 

For me, still less than 90 years... ;-)

 

Johannes

Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954

 

Gesendet: Montag, 10. Mai 2021 um 16:47 Uhr
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Betreff: [RealSTMFC] A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Hi List Members,

 

A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934 - an image I find to be spectacular that simply transports us back more than 90 years into the past

 

"Men with products on trucks and horse-drawn wagons near train at Chicago Northwestern Railroad Depot"

 

It is clearly wintertime - everyone is wearing their coats, even the horses!

 

 

Quite a number of things immediately jump out at me, a few of them are...

 

(1) Note how many businesses were still using horses to get the job done in this relatively late 1934 date

 

(2) Note how a few of the conveyances are positioned for side-loading, but the vast majority are positioned for diagonal loading, at maybe a 45 degree angle relative to the freight car involved. None of the vehicles has been positioned at a 90 degree angle against the freight cars - I would think this 90 degree angle would make for the easiest work, with the vehicle back loading door flush against the freight car side, but perhaps that would also entirely block the flow of all other vehicular traffic

 

(3) There is a building clearly marked RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY above the left end of the activity

 

More info can be found at the link below...

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Resemble Grease

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’m somewhat surprised nobody’s mentioned using dirty black colors in acrylic paint form.  Liquitex is the best known brand with a very wide range of colors.  Use it directly from the tube, it will (slowly) dry in 3D form if that’s what you  want.

 

Schuyler

 

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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 12:32 AM
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Depends what type of grease you want to represent, but for some grease, (graphite based ones?)ordinary pencil lead or powdered graphite as used to lubricate Kadee couplings can leave a greasy look in weathering.

 

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Re: New HO scale freight car kits

Ken Soroos
 

Hi Scott -

The Soo Line introduced its 4’ block billboard lettering on new 40’ boxcars during its 1951 production run at its North Fond du Lac Shops, WI.  I’ll try to attach a photo of one of the 1940 Wisconsin Central cars repainted with this lettering in 1952.  Surprisingly, it seems to have been repainted with black ends, which were eliminated during new car production in 1951.  The weigh date information is “AX 2 52.”  AX is the shop designation for Stevens Point, WI.

Ken Soroos


Ken, out of curiosity do you know the dates when the lettering changed on the cars?

Thanks 
Scott McDonald 

On May 7, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Ken Soroos <kensoroos@...> wrote:

Yes, Matt.  The kit includes the as-built Pullman-Standard lettering for Soo Line (and DSS&A for the other kit).

Ken Soroos

On May 7, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Matthew Hurst <handbt33@...> wrote:

Any chance that Soo line car has 1940s era lettering included? 

Just wondering. 

Thanks

Matthew Hurst



On May 7, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Resin Car Works has released a couple new HO scale freight car kits. The release announcement for the L&N steel gondola and Soo/DSS&A boxcar kits is posted on the RCW blog.


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy





Re: A busy time at the team track Chicago 1934

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

Charlie,

I think I'm seeing the Board of Trade building in the fog at the left, so it's someplace in the freight house district between Grand Central and Dearborn Station.

Dennis Storzek

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