Date   

Re: CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Tony,
 
Thanks for the input Tony.
 
The web page does say "Prepared Monongalia County Coal Ready for Shipment to Foreign Markets". Perhaps the "Foreign Market" destination was in Canada, in which case this is all on the up and up...
 
Claus Schlund

 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)

Claus Schlund wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)
 
I didn't think these cars traveled into the USA, apparently I was wrong
 

Officially, it was against the rules (unless the car is bound for Canada). Unofficially . . . well . . .

Tony Thompson




Re: C&O 33503 - a steel hopper bottom gon - with coal load (undated)

Keith Retterer
 

Here is a view of the C&O hopper bottom gon when it was built in Dec of 1907.

Keith.


Re: NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Group!

This looks like the Joy plant just downstream from Franklin. Penna. on the Allegheny River.  This site was served by the NYC and produced (still does) mining machinery such as on the flat car.  The 'connection' to West Virginia might be in that the equipment was delivered to that state.  I have a friend who works for the current Joy and will see if he recognizes the building.

Happy Model RRing from Mike Schleigh, Grove City in western Penna.

On Sunday, May 16, 2021, 07:22:51 PM EDT, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)
 
The cars look to be loaded with mining equipment
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)

John Riddell
 

Undoubtedly this loaded  CP Otis gon and the CP Big Otis  gon behind were bound for Ontario. CP imported all its locomotive coal for its Ontario operations from Appalachia as Canadian sources were too far west or east. I have seen other pictures of these CP Otis cars in the US.

 

John Riddell.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)

Gavin
 

Actually, CPR had a deal with C&O for steam coal to Montreal and points surrounding, as much of CPRs coal operations were west of the Rockies. CPR even built a class of gondola specifically to interchange, called the Big Otis. 


On Sun, May 16, 2021, 4:38 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Claus Schlund wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)
 
I didn't think these cars traveled into the USA, apparently I was wrong
 

Officially, it was against the rules (unless the car is bound for Canada). Unofficially . . . well . . .

Tony Thompson




VGN 10269 hopper end view circa 1946

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
VGN 10269 hopper end view circa 1946
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


A trio of C&O hoppers

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A trio of C&O hoppers - from left to right - C&O 31774, C&O 111799, C&O 58590 if I am reading this right.
 
It looks to me like the leftmost and rightmost cars (C&O 31774 and C&O 58590) are of nearly identical construction, the only difference I see is the cut levers
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


C&O 21920 twin hopper

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
C&O 21920 twin hopper
 
The web site thinks the date to be "ca. 1930-1940", but I think I see a 1925 date on the side of the car.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Jeffrey White
 

There was a mine near Casey IL that was served by the IC and the Q. Don't know if the town was named for the legendary Mudville 9 player though......

Jeff White

Alma IL

On 5/16/2021 6:39 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
Just don’t ship them to Mudville. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On May 16, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Jeff White wrote:

That's interesting.  Joy Manufacturing has (maybe had by now) a plant near me in Mt Vernon IL where they make mining equipment for the mines in Southern Illinois.  I had no idea they were also in West Virginia.  I'm still looking for some 1950s era HO scale mining machines to make a couple flat car loads.

  Jeff, just put the Joy emblem on some big crates . . . and you're there.

Tony Thompson




C&O 33503 - a steel hopper bottom gon - with coal load (undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
C&O 33503 - a steel hopper bottom gon - with coal load (undated)
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Tony Thompson
 

Eric Hansmann wrote:

Just don’t ship them to Mudville. 

Excellent catch, Eric, now that it's baseball season.      

Tony Thompson




Re: NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Eric Hansmann
 

Just don’t ship them to Mudville. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On May 16, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Jeff White wrote:

That's interesting.  Joy Manufacturing has (maybe had by now) a plant near me in Mt Vernon IL where they make mining equipment for the mines in Southern Illinois.  I had no idea they were also in West Virginia.  I'm still looking for some 1950s era HO scale mining machines to make a couple flat car loads.

  Jeff, just put the Joy emblem on some big crates . . . and you're there.

Tony Thompson




Re: CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)

Tony Thompson
 

Claus Schlund wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)
 
I didn't think these cars traveled into the USA, apparently I was wrong
 

Officially, it was against the rules (unless the car is bound for Canada). Unofficially . . . well . . .

Tony Thompson




Re: NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Tony Thompson
 

Jeff White wrote:

That's interesting.  Joy Manufacturing has (maybe had by now) a plant near me in Mt Vernon IL where they make mining equipment for the mines in Southern Illinois.  I had no idea they were also in West Virginia.  I'm still looking for some 1950s era HO scale mining machines to make a couple flat car loads.

  Jeff, just put the Joy emblem on some big crates . . . and you're there.

Tony Thompson




Re: NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Jeffrey White
 

That's interesting.  Joy Manufacturing has (maybe had by now) a plant near me in Mt Vernon IL where they make mining equipment for the mines in Southern Illinois.  I had no idea they were also in West Virginia.  I'm still looking for some 1950s era HO scale mining machines to make a couple flat car loads.

Jeff White

Alma IL


On 5/16/2021 6:22 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)
 
The cars look to be loaded with mining equipment
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
CP345227 drop bottom gon in coal service in West Virginia (!)
 
I didn't think these cars traveled into the USA, apparently I was wrong
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


C&O twin hopper possibly 65106 (undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
C&O twin hopper possibly 65106 (undated)
 
Photo from Consolidation Coal Co

https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/002024
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
NYC 499680 flat and other flat cars at Joy Manufacturing Co (undated)
 
The cars look to be loaded with mining equipment
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


WM twin hopper in consist chalk-marked as NO BRAKE (undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
WM twin hopper in consist chalk-marked as NO BRAKE (undated)
 
Hope it's not going too far...
 
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 10:57 AM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
That makes about a much sense as calling a pile of coal a shale heap.
Just because you've never heard it, doesn't mean it's incorrect.

From the Collins dictionary https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/slag
3. 
a mixture of shaleclay, coal dust, and other mineral waste produced during coal mining

From the Cambridge dictionary https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/slag

waste material produced when coal is dug from the ground, or a substance produced by mixing chemicals with metal that has been heated until it is liquid in order to remove unwanted substances from it

Need I go on? It does seem to be British usage, likely took root here in the colonies wherever Cornish miners settled.

Dennis Storzek

3521 - 3540 of 187907