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Re: Acrylic Mineral Red paint.

lrkdbn
 

I can't give you a "this is an exact match",but Model Railroad Hobbyist e-magazine has a reference publication on substitutes for Polly Scale from currently available acrylics like Vallejo. Also if you can, try a hobby shop that has paints for military and wargaming modeling. There are many,many lines of acrylic paints out there and lots of interesting colors in the general oxide red category.The very thick acrylics  intended for brush painting like Vallejo Model Colour can be reduced with Vallejo Airbrush Thinner- they recommend about 1 to 1 paint/thinner and about another 10-20% flow improver so it doesn't dry too fast.Of course you need to experiment to find what works with your particular air brush etc.
Larry King


Re: Acrylic Mineral Red paint.

Jerry Michels
 

This is off topic, but regarding fumes and spraying..  Is particulate matter as bad as fumes?  I don't think any spraying should be done without ventilation.  You may not smell particles, but they are there.  Jerry Michels


Gerry Glow Decals was NP War Emergency Boxcar

Jerry Michels
 

This is sad to read.  Sounds like another Oddballs story.   I sincerely hope Gerry does something soon.  Jerry Michels


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

George Courtney
 

I'm in luck to have both Tichy and K-4 making S scale decals I want.  I've never had a problem with either of them.  There are a few others that have a few S scale decals that also have been fine to work with.  I've forgotten where but someone posted a method to make Tichy decals more appealing to the discriminating decal buyer.

George Courtney


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

StephenK
 

I thought Tichy has taken over this line.   Check this:   https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/29274

Steve Kay


Photo: Copper Range Railroad Boxcar 150 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Copper Range Railroad Boxcar 150 (Undated)

Photo from Michigan Technological University:

https://cchi.mtu.edu/copper-country-image-detail?duid=463a79af-3428-4cff-9f03-c366c0c9e23f&width=1242&height=732&nid=22015

Artwork on the car probably was added in a darkroom.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Copper Range RR Flatcar 1081 (1920)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Copper Range RR Flatcar 1081 (1920)

Photo from Michigan Technological University:

https://cchi.mtu.edu/copper-country-image-detail?duid=24b86ba2-c8c4-4c80-a5fb-e6c2cca5ae07&width=1242&height=732&nid=21629

Loading copper.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

George Courtney
 

I've not received the decals I paid for back several years ago.  Gerry told me he had gone broke doing the decals and could not supply them at that time.  Before then I had bought decals perhaps five times from him with no problem.  But I and others are forever out of our money.  YMMV.

George Courtney


Acrylic Mineral Red paint.

Scott
 

I used Polly Scale mineral red for a long time but my supply is gone.  Does anybody know of a Acrylic equivalent or a recipe of Vallejo, Mission Models, AK etc to get close?  I have Scalecoat Mineral Red and it's fine but want something that dries faster and don't have to spray outside due to fumes.  I don't use Tru-Color much at all.

Scott McDonald 


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

Andy Laurent
 

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 08:39 PM, George Courtney wrote:
A bit off topic, but Mr. Glow appears to have cashed the checks of perhaps hundreds of modelers, myself included, and not been heard from again.  To stick to modeling, I personally would recommend dealing with other decal and model makers.  If this is too political for our hosts, I understand.
I have had the same experience.  Paid in full, no decals.  There are some other great vendors out there that do wonderful work!
Andy L.
Madison WI


Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

Nelson Moyer
 

Yes, that was my eureka moment.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

 

Nelson, here is the URL: https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/files/Freight%20Car%20UnderbodyDetail.pdf

You are correct that the reservoir had a defined top and bottom, they were always mounted with the mounting lugs above center line.
In addition, the mounting brackets were almost always arranged to support the lugs from below. With the brackets below the lugs, in the event of a loose or broken bolt, the reservoir is still supported. Not so if it were hung from the bolts.

The secret to mounting orientation is revealed in Fig.7 on page four. Note that the air lines from the emergency and auxiliary reservoirs do not cross. Fig.s 12 & 13 on page six show the locations of the different connections on the control valve pipe bracket. The connections are not interchangeable, therefore the reservoir was always positioned in such a way that each pipe had a straight shot between it and the control valve, to make pipe fitting and maintenance easier.

Dennis Storzek


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

gtws00
 

I have had very fast service from Jerry Glow recently.
George Toman


Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

Nelson, here is the URL: https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/files/Freight%20Car%20UnderbodyDetail.pdf

You are correct that the reservoir had a defined top and bottom, they were always mounted with the mounting lugs above center line.
In addition, the mounting brackets were almost always arranged to support the lugs from below. With the brackets below the lugs, in the event of a loose or broken bolt, the reservoir is still supported. Not so if it were hung from the bolts.

The secret to mounting orientation is revealed in Fig.7 on page four. Note that the air lines from the emergency and auxiliary reservoirs do not cross. Fig.s 12 & 13 on page six show the locations of the different connections on the control valve pipe bracket. The connections are not interchangeable, therefore the reservoir was always positioned in such a way that each pipe had a straight shot between it and the control valve, to make pipe fitting and maintenance easier.

Dennis Storzek


Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

Nelson Moyer
 

Correct, and they were combined into a single pdf which was circulating some years ago. If it’s not in the archives, I will upload it.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:14 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

 

Irv Thomae asked:

"You've mentioned Ted Culotta's "treatise on freight car brakes" and Gene Greene's [sic] "paper on freight car brakes."   Can you remind us where to find them on line?"

 

Ted Culotta's "treatise on freight car brakes" appeared as sidebars in the RMC Essential Freight Car series, AB brakes in the August 2003 issue, KC brakes in the September 2003 issue.

 

 

Ben Hom

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Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

al_brown03
 

Gene Green's paper on freight car brakes, whose title is "Freight Car Underbody Detail", is in the Files section of this group.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

Benjamin Hom
 

Irv Thomae asked:
"You've mentioned Ted Culotta's "treatise on freight car brakes" and Gene Greene's [sic] "paper on freight car brakes."   Can you remind us where to find them on line?"

Ted Culotta's "treatise on freight car brakes" appeared as sidebars in the RMC Essential Freight Car series, AB brakes in the August 2003 issue, KC brakes in the September 2003 issue.


Ben Hom


Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

Benjamin Hom
 

Elden Gatwood wrote:
"The PRR had at least two groups of cars in classes X29 and X31 with transversely-mounted reservoirs."

Regarding Class X29, only Dreadnaught end cars built 1932-1934 had transversely-mounted reservoirs.  All other cars retrofitted with AB brakes had reservoirs mounted parallel to the center sill.  This is a glaring error on all Red Caboose X29 models (except for the Dreadnaught end models).


Ben Hom


Re: AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

 

The PRR had at least two groups of cars in classes X29 and X31 with transversely-mounted reservoirs.

 

I don’t have the complete details, but know some car numbers that had them, and have furnished some details to folks on the PRR list and Society.

 

If you are interested, I can expand.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 10:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

 

I attached Gene Green’s paper to my last email to the resinfreight car builders io Group, so you can get it there or search the web for “Freight Car Underbody Detail.pdf”. Search “Modeling AB Brakes on Freight Cars.pdf” for Ted’s paper, which also covers KC brakes.

 

These papers should be in the files of the RealSTMC, resinfreightcarbuilders, plasticfreightcarbuilders, and proto-layouts io groups. If they aren’t, somebody needs to upload them.

 

As I said before, I leave transverse mounted air reservoirs to modelers of the PRR, ATSF, and perhaps other roads.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve SANDIFER
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

 

Santa Fe also had many cars with perpendicular air reservoirs.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of irv_thomae
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AB Air Reservoir Orientation Question

 

Nelson,
   Thanks for a very clear explanation!

   You've mentioned Ted Culotta's "treatise on freight car brakes" and Gene Greene's "paper on freight car brakes."   Can you remind us where to find them on line?

   (And then there are the railroads that mounted air reservoirs with their long axis perpendicular to the car centerline, such as CN and the T&P  Are there any consistent rules that apply to them?)

Thanks!


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Follow Up


I have delt with Mr.  Glow both in the past and recently with EXTREMELY POSITIVE RESULTS.
He has been both meticulous and professional in his dealings.  I just got an email from Andt Carlson stating that phone calls had not been answered lately.  I hope and pray for the best

Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "George Courtney via groups.io" <gsc3@...>
Date: 5/24/21 5:39 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

A bit off topic, but Mr. Glow appears to have cashed the checks of perhaps hundreds of modelers, myself included, and not been heard from again.  To stick to modeling, I personally would recommend dealing with other decal and model makers.  If this is too political for our hosts, I understand.

George Courtney


Re: NORTHERN PACIFIC WAR EMERGENCY BOXCARD-Gerry Glow

George Courtney
 

A bit off topic, but Mr. Glow appears to have cashed the checks of perhaps hundreds of modelers, myself included, and not been heard from again.  To stick to modeling, I personally would recommend dealing with other decal and model makers.  If this is too political for our hosts, I understand.

George Courtney

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